NSW Cop draws gun on drink driver
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NSW Cop draws gun on drink driver
Dramatic footage has emerged of a NSW Police senior constable drawing his gun on a Canberra driver he pulled over for a random breath test.
The police dash cam video shows the highway patrol officer running towards the driver's side window with his firearm drawn and aiming it at the man's head at Harman, south of Canberra and just inside NSW.
His actions drew strong criticism from a magistrate when the footage was tendered in the ACT Magistrates Court on Friday as the motorist, 32, successfully fought a drink-driving charge linked to the incident.
NSW Police were reviewing the circumstances of the prosecution and the court's decision, a spokeswoman said in a statement.
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The court was told the incident took place when police were carrying out roadside breath tests on Canberra Avenue in Queanbeyan on January 22, 2015.
The highway patrol officer said he noticed the motorist's car slow down as it approached the breath test station shortly after 11pm.
The driver then swerved and turned down Stephens Road, the officer said.
Police followed the driver for a short time before the man stopped in Woods Lane.
The footage shows the police officer getting out and tapping his gun twice on the driver's side window.
He then pulls the car door open and points the gun at the driver's face.
The driver can be seen raising his arms before he steps out of the car and the police officer directs him to lie face down on the road.
Once the driver is on the ground, the police officer holsters his gun and knees the man in the back before he handcuffs him, hitting him again on the back.
The senior constable told ACT police officers who arrived soon after that he had breath-tested the driver and the man had returned a positive blood-alcohol reading.
The driver was taken to Woden police station and later charged with level-three drink-driving.
Lawyers for the driver, from Ben Aulich and Associates, argued the arrest was improper given the police officer's behaviour, which they said showed excessive force.
They also said the officer had failed to disclose the exact nature of the arrest.
The driver's barrister, Jack Pappas, said the police officer had not entered any information about the use of force in his online report of the incident, which was required under police guidelines.
In handing down her decision on Friday, Special Magistrate Margaret Hunter said she was appalled the police officer had drawn his gun in the circumstances and it was clearly unnecessary to have levelled it at the man's face.
The court heard he had given evidence that he did not believe his use of force had been excessive, it was reasonable to draw his gun and he had not known he had to enter the use-of-force information in his report.
He said he had drawn the gun because the area was dark and he felt threatened as he did not know how many people were in the car.
But Ms Hunter said the video showed the area was well-lit and there had clearly been one person in the car.
She said the officer could have sat in his vehicle and waited for the other police to arrive or called for back-up.
Ms Hunter said that, while the senior constable claimed he had told police who arrived at the scene what had happened, it was clear from the evidence of two ACT police officers that he had not mentioned he had held a gun to the man's head or kneed him in the back.
She found the drink-driving offence was not proved after it emerged the breathalyser the police officer used had not been an approved device under ACT law and Canberra police had not carried out their own breath test at the scene.
Ms Hunter said that meant she was not required to make any formal finding as to whether the man's arrest had been improper. She awarded the defendant costs.
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The police dash cam video shows the highway patrol officer running towards the driver's side window with his firearm drawn and aiming it at the man's head at Harman, south of Canberra and just inside NSW.
His actions drew strong criticism from a magistrate when the footage was tendered in the ACT Magistrates Court on Friday as the motorist, 32, successfully fought a drink-driving charge linked to the incident.
NSW Police were reviewing the circumstances of the prosecution and the court's decision, a spokeswoman said in a statement.
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The court was told the incident took place when police were carrying out roadside breath tests on Canberra Avenue in Queanbeyan on January 22, 2015.
The highway patrol officer said he noticed the motorist's car slow down as it approached the breath test station shortly after 11pm.
The driver then swerved and turned down Stephens Road, the officer said.
Police followed the driver for a short time before the man stopped in Woods Lane.
The footage shows the police officer getting out and tapping his gun twice on the driver's side window.
He then pulls the car door open and points the gun at the driver's face.
The driver can be seen raising his arms before he steps out of the car and the police officer directs him to lie face down on the road.
Once the driver is on the ground, the police officer holsters his gun and knees the man in the back before he handcuffs him, hitting him again on the back.
The senior constable told ACT police officers who arrived soon after that he had breath-tested the driver and the man had returned a positive blood-alcohol reading.
The driver was taken to Woden police station and later charged with level-three drink-driving.
Lawyers for the driver, from Ben Aulich and Associates, argued the arrest was improper given the police officer's behaviour, which they said showed excessive force.
They also said the officer had failed to disclose the exact nature of the arrest.
The driver's barrister, Jack Pappas, said the police officer had not entered any information about the use of force in his online report of the incident, which was required under police guidelines.
In handing down her decision on Friday, Special Magistrate Margaret Hunter said she was appalled the police officer had drawn his gun in the circumstances and it was clearly unnecessary to have levelled it at the man's face.
The court heard he had given evidence that he did not believe his use of force had been excessive, it was reasonable to draw his gun and he had not known he had to enter the use-of-force information in his report.
He said he had drawn the gun because the area was dark and he felt threatened as he did not know how many people were in the car.
But Ms Hunter said the video showed the area was well-lit and there had clearly been one person in the car.
She said the officer could have sat in his vehicle and waited for the other police to arrive or called for back-up.
Ms Hunter said that, while the senior constable claimed he had told police who arrived at the scene what had happened, it was clear from the evidence of two ACT police officers that he had not mentioned he had held a gun to the man's head or kneed him in the back.
She found the drink-driving offence was not proved after it emerged the breathalyser the police officer used had not been an approved device under ACT law and Canberra police had not carried out their own breath test at the scene.
Ms Hunter said that meant she was not required to make any formal finding as to whether the man's arrest had been improper. She awarded the defendant costs.
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Re: NSW Cop draws gun on drink driver
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hmmmf
Policing 101 says that for best results good groundwork equals good information.
That's why we see emerging police cases where -like Sargent Schultz- they know nothing.
Cops today are blind and have no intelligence.
Have you noticed, that in the US, a lot of policing problems and other nasty and strange events very often take place a day or two before the weekend.
This gives TPTB and institutions at least two days lead time to react.

hmmmf
Policing 101 says that for best results good groundwork equals good information.
That's why we see emerging police cases where -like Sargent Schultz- they know nothing.
Cops today are blind and have no intelligence.
Have you noticed, that in the US, a lot of policing problems and other nasty and strange events very often take place a day or two before the weekend.
This gives TPTB and institutions at least two days lead time to react.

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Australia’s 000 emergency dispatch system is fully retarded and operates under the spell of the Boomer Hive-mind system.
If you call 000 for a simple sore toe, you probably won’t have much trouble getting a dispatch.
However, if you are witnessing a complex situation, the dispatch will be delayed until the operator interrogates for minutiae detail –much to the intrigue of the operator- from the caller. If urgent and the caller needs to hang up, it is highly likely the operator will nullify the need for dispatch. Multiple calls may be logged as one primary call for that incident, no matter the time gap. Operators don’t first suggest call-backs even though the caller may be under duress.
Its very narcissistic. And has killed and maimed people.
Australia’s 000 emergency dispatch system is fully retarded and operates under the spell of the Boomer Hive-mind system.
If you call 000 for a simple sore toe, you probably won’t have much trouble getting a dispatch.
However, if you are witnessing a complex situation, the dispatch will be delayed until the operator interrogates for minutiae detail –much to the intrigue of the operator- from the caller. If urgent and the caller needs to hang up, it is highly likely the operator will nullify the need for dispatch. Multiple calls may be logged as one primary call for that incident, no matter the time gap. Operators don’t first suggest call-backs even though the caller may be under duress.
Its very narcissistic. And has killed and maimed people.
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Perhaps the feared global dictatorship is being slowly activated locally. All Beta tests done. The structure and endless rules are already in place.
I live in public housing. A largish complex. And in one small area of the place, the government has placed many anti-social people. It is mild mayhem, barely contained by tenants other.
In a small town, no public institution claims they can help. Even ones with official commonwealth power. The more I try to work with officials, with more evidence the more they assert their claims of inability and powerlessness! Some deny the problem exists at all. What is that?
Supposedly the ultimate arbiter in all this is DHHS, but they care not, do less and liaise with Police to ‘McManage’ this inert effect. Bizarre
I’m quite sure everybody realises that in their community something is wrong, or at least different and changed.
Having identified that ‘community policing’ is diminishing, one can only conclude that the definition itself of what constitutes crime and anti-social behaviour has shifted. The evidence is there. The community is shafted. Yet it too throws its hands in the air saying ‘we can’t do anything about it?’
Is this the takeover without a shot being fired people once talked about?
I am having a similar problem elswhere, newly generated by the bank itself. Not me. The small local branch manager says there’s nothing he can do, can’t lift a finger, and that its ‘they’. He even deployed the McManager principle of not remembering me from last week.
Perhaps the feared global dictatorship is being slowly activated locally. All Beta tests done. The structure and endless rules are already in place.
I live in public housing. A largish complex. And in one small area of the place, the government has placed many anti-social people. It is mild mayhem, barely contained by tenants other.
In a small town, no public institution claims they can help. Even ones with official commonwealth power. The more I try to work with officials, with more evidence the more they assert their claims of inability and powerlessness! Some deny the problem exists at all. What is that?
Supposedly the ultimate arbiter in all this is DHHS, but they care not, do less and liaise with Police to ‘McManage’ this inert effect. Bizarre
I’m quite sure everybody realises that in their community something is wrong, or at least different and changed.
Having identified that ‘community policing’ is diminishing, one can only conclude that the definition itself of what constitutes crime and anti-social behaviour has shifted. The evidence is there. The community is shafted. Yet it too throws its hands in the air saying ‘we can’t do anything about it?’
Is this the takeover without a shot being fired people once talked about?
I am having a similar problem elswhere, newly generated by the bank itself. Not me. The small local branch manager says there’s nothing he can do, can’t lift a finger, and that its ‘they’. He even deployed the McManager principle of not remembering me from last week.
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When I was 19 I was at my local (Engadine Hotel) and re-aquainted with a character called "Hosty". Several weeks prior Hosty had been 1 of 4 other people who'd been with me when we got busted smoking pot in my Valiant Charger at Sutherland, and I took the rap for the lot of us.
When the pub closed (at 12:00) Hosty invited me to smoke some weed with him. He'd just got his licence back 4 days prior for a DUI. We took his Escort panel van into the bush near Woronora River via a Water board road/fire trail and parked at the site of a house demolished when bush along Woronora River was declared a Green Zone.
We'd been there quite some time when headlights could be seen coming up the partially cemented drive to the house site. I threw the bong out the window into the bush, just in case.
Sure enough it's the cops. The elder cop approached Hosty's driver's side window and the younger cop opened my passenger door with his Smith & Wesson .38sp drawn, saying "Get out".
Hosty and I both got out of the Escort. The older cop's got his note pad and the younger cop's now got his truncheon out. Young cop askes me "What are you doing?". I replied "Nothing". Young cop belts me across the back of the legs with his stick. "What are you doing" .. "Nothing" .."Whack!" ..
This continued for several minutes. It wasn't my dope, nor my car, and I had taken the rap for Hosty (and others) not long prior. So I asked Hosty "Are you going to tell 'em or what Hosty?".
Hosty's replying "Shut up man!" .. worried about the licence he's just got back. We both knew a bloke who'd gone to WA and lost his licence in NSW for smoking weed (failed blood test).
Eventually I said "Yeah Ok, we were smoking weed". Young cops demands "Where is it?". I reply "Don't know, could all be gone by now" hoping Hosty had tossed it.
Old cop finds a bag with aprox half an Oz of weed under drivers seat.
Young cop asks "Where's the bong?". I replied "I chucked it".
Young cop's grabbed me by the arm and tries dragging me toward the scrub saying "Where? ... where is it?". I said "I don't know, it was dark, it's out there somewhere.
He hand-cuffs me and tells us to wait near their car. I don't know what they did in boot of cop car, but soon the young cop turns up with a bong made from an entirely different type of plastic bottle
and asks "Is this it?". I replied "No, that's your bong, ours was a shampoo bottle".
They put Hosty and I in their car and begin to leave the site. Part of the way down the hill they realise they've taken the wrong track and don't know where they are. The NSW govt had been trying to save money on fuel so had issued some cops with front wheel drive 4 cylinder cars, and this one couldn't reverse up the gravelly hill.
They were stuck.
Young cop says "Get out and push". I told young cop "You're going to bust me for smoking weed and you want me to push your car? ... You're kidding yourself". He gets his stick out and says "You've got a choice". I replied "I don't care what you do, I'm not pushing your car.
They get on their radio and call for help. While waiting I said to Hosty "Did you see that?, he pulled his gun on me" loud enough for the cops to hear. Making small talk old cop says "Next time I'll bring a packed lunch" .. and I replied "Next time I'll bring an M1".
The saviours in the 4WD got lost and these cops had to use their flashing lights to show their rescuers where we were. Cops in 4WD put on their Police Rescue overalls to hook up a winch and young cop's having a tantrum because I walk away from the tightening cable "Come back here". You can stand near the cable, but I'm not"
By 3:00 am the 4WD and winch had failed to pull the car back up the hill. Old cop tore the page out of his note book and said "Fuck off!"
Y'know, I swear that old cop had a tear in his eye.
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The last time a cop fondled his gun (Glock 10mm) in my presence was the day before ANZAC day 2009. I was giving an old bloke who lived and worked on the same farm I did a lift to Bundy. Cruising at 90kph with the scanner running and Constable Robert John Lowe who I'd proven a liar in court 5 years prior spins around and chases me with lights and siren.
I'd done nothing wrong, so when I pulled over I got out to see what his problem was. He looked at my bare feet, took a step backwards and put his hand on an item on his batman belt. I thought
"This prick's gunna taze me" .. had a closer look and he's got his hand on his gun.
Frisks me up against the back of the panel van, while some work mates were in passing traffic, hand cuffs me behind my back and pulls nearly everything out the back of the van.
Found nothing, so his fat partner wants to search the cab, but can't open a Ford falcon door. I stepped through the cuffs, said "Hold that button and opened the door from inside. Found nothing.
Then uncuffed me and tried to drive away. But I stood in the way blocking his path. When I approached the driver's window Lowe asked
"What?" I replied "My licence in your pocket, thanks"
When the pub closed (at 12:00) Hosty invited me to smoke some weed with him. He'd just got his licence back 4 days prior for a DUI. We took his Escort panel van into the bush near Woronora River via a Water board road/fire trail and parked at the site of a house demolished when bush along Woronora River was declared a Green Zone.
We'd been there quite some time when headlights could be seen coming up the partially cemented drive to the house site. I threw the bong out the window into the bush, just in case.
Sure enough it's the cops. The elder cop approached Hosty's driver's side window and the younger cop opened my passenger door with his Smith & Wesson .38sp drawn, saying "Get out".
Hosty and I both got out of the Escort. The older cop's got his note pad and the younger cop's now got his truncheon out. Young cop askes me "What are you doing?". I replied "Nothing". Young cop belts me across the back of the legs with his stick. "What are you doing" .. "Nothing" .."Whack!" ..
This continued for several minutes. It wasn't my dope, nor my car, and I had taken the rap for Hosty (and others) not long prior. So I asked Hosty "Are you going to tell 'em or what Hosty?".
Hosty's replying "Shut up man!" .. worried about the licence he's just got back. We both knew a bloke who'd gone to WA and lost his licence in NSW for smoking weed (failed blood test).
Eventually I said "Yeah Ok, we were smoking weed". Young cops demands "Where is it?". I reply "Don't know, could all be gone by now" hoping Hosty had tossed it.
Old cop finds a bag with aprox half an Oz of weed under drivers seat.
Young cop asks "Where's the bong?". I replied "I chucked it".
Young cop's grabbed me by the arm and tries dragging me toward the scrub saying "Where? ... where is it?". I said "I don't know, it was dark, it's out there somewhere.
He hand-cuffs me and tells us to wait near their car. I don't know what they did in boot of cop car, but soon the young cop turns up with a bong made from an entirely different type of plastic bottle
and asks "Is this it?". I replied "No, that's your bong, ours was a shampoo bottle".
They put Hosty and I in their car and begin to leave the site. Part of the way down the hill they realise they've taken the wrong track and don't know where they are. The NSW govt had been trying to save money on fuel so had issued some cops with front wheel drive 4 cylinder cars, and this one couldn't reverse up the gravelly hill.
They were stuck.
Young cop says "Get out and push". I told young cop "You're going to bust me for smoking weed and you want me to push your car? ... You're kidding yourself". He gets his stick out and says "You've got a choice". I replied "I don't care what you do, I'm not pushing your car.
They get on their radio and call for help. While waiting I said to Hosty "Did you see that?, he pulled his gun on me" loud enough for the cops to hear. Making small talk old cop says "Next time I'll bring a packed lunch" .. and I replied "Next time I'll bring an M1".
The saviours in the 4WD got lost and these cops had to use their flashing lights to show their rescuers where we were. Cops in 4WD put on their Police Rescue overalls to hook up a winch and young cop's having a tantrum because I walk away from the tightening cable "Come back here". You can stand near the cable, but I'm not"
By 3:00 am the 4WD and winch had failed to pull the car back up the hill. Old cop tore the page out of his note book and said "Fuck off!"
Y'know, I swear that old cop had a tear in his eye.
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The last time a cop fondled his gun (Glock 10mm) in my presence was the day before ANZAC day 2009. I was giving an old bloke who lived and worked on the same farm I did a lift to Bundy. Cruising at 90kph with the scanner running and Constable Robert John Lowe who I'd proven a liar in court 5 years prior spins around and chases me with lights and siren.
I'd done nothing wrong, so when I pulled over I got out to see what his problem was. He looked at my bare feet, took a step backwards and put his hand on an item on his batman belt. I thought
"This prick's gunna taze me" .. had a closer look and he's got his hand on his gun.
Frisks me up against the back of the panel van, while some work mates were in passing traffic, hand cuffs me behind my back and pulls nearly everything out the back of the van.
Found nothing, so his fat partner wants to search the cab, but can't open a Ford falcon door. I stepped through the cuffs, said "Hold that button and opened the door from inside. Found nothing.
Then uncuffed me and tried to drive away. But I stood in the way blocking his path. When I approached the driver's window Lowe asked
"What?" I replied "My licence in your pocket, thanks"
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Re: NSW Cop draws gun on drink driver
Since we have started on Cop Stories, I'll relate one that happened about 40 years ago .... relayed to me by a rellie, so whether true or not ..........
Elderly Lady, in her 60s, driving down a main street in a country Victorian City, not watching where she was going, ran up the back of a Paddy Wagon ... at the lights.
Out jumps the Cop and tells EL to get out of the car! EL gets out of car. Copper says "What the hell are you doing Mrs D? I should book you!"
EL says "Listen to me, sonny Jim, I've known you since you were in short pants, so YOU should signal when you are about to stop."
Sonny Jim, apparently shook his head (there was no damage to the Paddy Wagon bumper bar) and that was that.
Elderly Lady, in her 60s, driving down a main street in a country Victorian City, not watching where she was going, ran up the back of a Paddy Wagon ... at the lights.

Out jumps the Cop and tells EL to get out of the car! EL gets out of car. Copper says "What the hell are you doing Mrs D? I should book you!"
EL says "Listen to me, sonny Jim, I've known you since you were in short pants, so YOU should signal when you are about to stop."
Sonny Jim, apparently shook his head (there was no damage to the Paddy Wagon bumper bar) and that was that.

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We used to play up heaps in the 80s, but in a fun way. No cop trouble, haha. zoom zoom. Not like what happens in this era. I never liked Hawke, but the beer was good. Some people suggest that when the SHTF, it will be in some ways hilarious.
More serious now..
Around about 8 officials, office bearers DHHS, powers and others had a pow-wow in an empty room in the flats today. Wish I was a fly on the wall.
From what I can gather they all firmly resolved to deploy more bureaucracy to deal with the anti-social behaviour. More than ten years worth. McManagement. They are sternly protecting what turns out to be a predator. Facebook. Probably with a long sheet. There are eight other travellers. The girl I have been dealing with in a political office is an ex reporter. She would have a good dossier on the case, with claims, information, times, evidence and yes videos. Powers. But she has been forcefully sent home today/yesterday. She was supposed to go to the meeting. Slapped in the face for siding with me? I expect her computer and dossier will have been raided by powers and officials, some of whom are super-gang related.
The town was tightly locked down during the election period, and acted full retard. Probably a product of the Boomer Hivemind.. Or a psyop.
More to come
We used to play up heaps in the 80s, but in a fun way. No cop trouble, haha. zoom zoom. Not like what happens in this era. I never liked Hawke, but the beer was good. Some people suggest that when the SHTF, it will be in some ways hilarious.
More serious now..
Around about 8 officials, office bearers DHHS, powers and others had a pow-wow in an empty room in the flats today. Wish I was a fly on the wall.
From what I can gather they all firmly resolved to deploy more bureaucracy to deal with the anti-social behaviour. More than ten years worth. McManagement. They are sternly protecting what turns out to be a predator. Facebook. Probably with a long sheet. There are eight other travellers. The girl I have been dealing with in a political office is an ex reporter. She would have a good dossier on the case, with claims, information, times, evidence and yes videos. Powers. But she has been forcefully sent home today/yesterday. She was supposed to go to the meeting. Slapped in the face for siding with me? I expect her computer and dossier will have been raided by powers and officials, some of whom are super-gang related.
The town was tightly locked down during the election period, and acted full retard. Probably a product of the Boomer Hivemind.. Or a psyop.
More to come
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