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Re: US Presidential race

Post by IQS.RLOW » Wed Feb 24, 2016 2:03 am

AiA in Atlanta wrote:There is more and more talk of the GOP having a "brokered convention." What that means is that a group of men, in secret, decide who the Republican nominee will be. So much for democracy :lol:
LOL says the democrats supporter who refuses to even mention the "super delegates"

So who will you throw your cards behind AiA, Shillary or are you felating the Bern? Either one should have you feeling a lot more like a shower than any GOP contender.
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Re: US Presidential race

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:48 pm

Outlaw Yogi wrote:My money is on Trump to win by a landslide ... and in France Le Pen to gain enough support that all the other parties will have to form a coalition to keep her out, then Le Pen win next time round.

In case you haven't noticed crew, most of the Western world has taken a hard right turn. Populations everywhere
are extremely pissed off with lefties. I won't be surprised if Angela Merkel's (supposedly a conservative) policies
result in her having to seek political asylum in Switzerland.
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The fact I/you/we don't really know anything (except that we learn from personal experience) is supposedly the first step to self realisation/enlightenment. While not claiming to be an enlightened individual I do accept most of what we think we know is just belief via indoctrination. So no, I know nothing and no no-one has mentioned it. It's my own personal opinion formed by watching the signs concerning public political sentiments.
Ordinary people - those not out saving the world - are sick of lefty do gooders having more and more personal freedoms
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Don't be surprised if ordinary people ask "What am I working for?" and down tools, refusing to support the system when the Left attains their ultimate goals.
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Re: US Presidential race

Post by DrMattus » Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:18 pm

AiA in Atlanta wrote:That Evangelical Christians are supporting Trump is an indication of just how inauthentic their "faith" is. I have suspected for a while that large swathes of American Protestantism are nothing more than an extension of the GOP. Their support of Trump confirms that.
You are absolutely right. His support amongst evangelicals who actually go to church at least once a month is less than 20%. But he's winning the key demographic of inauthentic born-again windbags who self identify as evangelical Christian but who don't regularly attend church. Surprised?

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Re: US Presidential race

Post by DrMattus » Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:50 pm

Nevada Hiho! Trump won with 46.4%. Rubio still surging with 23.7%. Cruz is now down to 20.2%. Kasich has bottomed out on 3.8% and should absolutely get out of the way before Super Tuesday (March 1st).

Speaking of which, watch Texas on March 1st. There's 172 delegates up for grabs (for comparison that's more than double what Trump has won from the first 4 primaries combined) and Cruz can win Texas. Maybe a few of the bible belt states. Cruz can still win it from here.

As for a brokered convention, it won't happen. This was a mooted as possibility when the GOP field was crowded with 15 candidates, but it's now pretty small with only 3 serious contenders and a clear front runner. Brokered only becomes a possibility if Trump can't carry a big state and I don't think he can lose New York (95 delegates) even if he tried.

If he does somehow lose NY and maaaaaaaaybe if Cruz surges in Texas and Rubio takes Florida and California we might be thinking again about brokered. But that won't be until June and at least one of these guys is going to run out of money by then.

....and IQ is right. Democratic super delegates are horse shit.

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Re: US Presidential race

Post by Super Nova » Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:42 pm

if Trump don't get the nomination, he still has the option to run as a independent still doesn't he?
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Re: US Presidential race

Post by IQS.RLOW » Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:29 pm

If Trump is backdoored by the GOP, then the republicans can kiss their party goodbye.

Trump can run as an independent but he has no hope of winning as an idependant. The GOP can try and field a preferred candidate, but they have no hope of winning just the same.

They need to bring Trump into the tent instead of keeping him outside and pissing in. They won't like it and it won't be pretty but they have no other choice. Sadly Trump will not be a true conservative president.
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Re: US Presidential race

Post by Rorschach » Wed Feb 24, 2016 10:04 pm

Not much of choice for the Republicans...
Dumb, dumber, or dumbest...
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Re: US Presidential race

Post by IQS.RLOW » Wed Feb 24, 2016 10:11 pm

Rorschach wrote:Not much of choice for the Republicans...
Dumb, dumber, or dumbest...
Scintillating commentary :roll:
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Re: US Presidential race

Post by Super Nova » Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:11 am

So their best bet is to bring Trump in, moderate him a little, make him look more presidential.

I can see him act more presidential. I have seen him in a few one on one interviews. He is smart and can be articulate and should not be underestimated in his appeal and ability to do the job. He is a good actor and is untouchable by scandal.

If he manages to push the right buttons......
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Re: US Presidential race

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:21 pm

IQS.RLOW wrote:
They need to bring Trump into the tent instead of keeping him outside and pissing in. They won't like it and it won't be pretty but they have no other choice. Sadly Trump will not be a true conservative president.
Bingo!

Now consider Clive Palmer's primary motive (creating more favourable conditions for his projects) rather than his secondary agenda (destroying Campbell Newman) for becoming an MP.
Being an untrusting soul who suspects virtually everyone of some latent motive, I'm wondering if Donald Trump wants to be Prez in order to create more favourable conditions for his own empire building?

I can't see Trump losing to the other potential Republican candidates or whoever the Democrats choose.
I reckon he's got the presidency in the bag.

As I keep iterating, the western world is leaning decidedly right, and if this worries the left, the left have only themselves to blame. Ordinary people are fed up with the left's increasingly absurd policies and having to foot the bill.

When Govts/admins of any persuasion go to far from centre/mainstream the public political backlash almost always punishes that Govt's/admin's party by electing a polar opposite who usually goes to an even greater extreme in the other direction.

Probably the easiest analogy to illustrate this phenomena is the public backlash in the Weirmar Republic causing the rise of Nazi Germany. Post WW1 Germany was considered the most progressive nation in Europe at that time.
But the pollies forgot to take a resentful public with them, and the people allowed a well speaking extremist to take them on a wild ride, which they ultimately paid a high price for.
When Nazis dragged trannies, jews, poofs, gypsies, johovah's witnesses, or anyone undesirable ect off the streets in for bashing and interrogation, the general public didn't mind a bit. And likewise the current social engineering being foisted on us by the Left will incite the rise of fascism again.

Those who forget the past are bound to repeat it.
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