Proof of God

[IQS.RLOW]

Neither are you, you gormless fuckwit.

[Super Nova]

Are you trying to claim that Christians don't believe in an after life?

Christians believe you can come back from the dead after a couple of days after lying in a hot an sweaty cave.

No they don't !!!!! FAIL....
You know that's crap SN.... why do you feel the need to post crap in a religious topic... one that you started and one that has already been answered from a Christian perspective?
Like I have told you many times before, you cant treat religion seriously and your atheism and bias precludes you from ever doing so

The resurrection of Jesus is the Christian religious belief that, after being put to death, Jesus rose again from the dead. It is the central tenet of Christian theology and part of the Nicene Creed: "On the third day he rose again in accordance with the Scriptures".

FFS Roach, don't bullshit me about Christianity. I had it shoved down my throat so I know quite a lot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection_of_Jesus

[mantra]

Until the 80's most Australians were bought up on the Christian doctrine. Generally I like the philosophy behind it, but not too many of the interpretations given by so many experts. Those who claim to be true "Christians" give themselves a false authority over those who they think are ignorant and don't usually practise what they preach. When someone says "I'm a Christian" - do they mean it literally or figuratively?

[Rorschach]

Are you trying to claim that Christians don't believe in an after life?

Christians believe you can come back from the dead after a couple of days after lying in a hot an sweaty cave.

No they don't !!!!! FAIL....
You know that's crap SN.... why do you feel the need to post crap in a religious topic... one that you started and one that has already been answered from a Christian perspective?
Like I have told you many times before, you cant treat religion seriously and your atheism and bias precludes you from ever doing so

The resurrection of Jesus is the Christian religious belief that, after being put to death, Jesus rose again from the dead. It is the central tenet of Christian theology and part of the Nicene Creed: "On the third day he rose again in accordance with the Scriptures".

FFS Roach, don't bullshit me about Christianity. I had it shoved down my throat so I know quite a lot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection_of_Jesus

Oh PUHLEASE.... don't be a total idiot and don't insult me.
YOU apparently know nothing and learned nothing.
YOU said and I quote.....

"Christians believe you can come back from the dead after a couple of days after lying in a hot an sweaty cave."
That's a BULLSHIT statement... only Jesus was resurrected in such a manner... the general "you" is clearly Bullshit.
Pull the other one SN... it plays jingle bells

[Rorschach]

Until the 80's most Australians were bought up on the Christian doctrine. Generally I like the philosophy behind it, but not too many of the interpretations given by so many experts. Those who claim to be true "Christians" give themselves a false authority over those who they think are ignorant and don't usually practise what they preach. When someone says "I'm a Christian" - do they mean it literally or figuratively?

Go away mantra...the society you live in has laws based on Christian teachings and no one has the right in a democratic society to have authority over others in the manner you describe. You are just a tad delusional. We live in a secular society too not an Islamic one.
Anyone who says I'm a Christian I am better than you because of that would be laughed at. maybe you should learn to laugh at them instead of holding a grudge and whinging in private.

[Rorschach]

SN... you started this... and turned it into an anti-Christian rant... if you want a debate a sensible serious one I suggest you stop lying to do it.

[mantra]

Anyone who says I'm a Christian I am better than you because of that would be laughed at. maybe you should learn to laugh at them instead of holding a grudge and whinging in private.

at you.

[Rorschach]

Anyone who says I'm a Christian I am better than you because of that would be laughed at. maybe you should learn to laugh at them instead of holding a grudge and whinging in private.

at you.

Care to make a sensible sentence that means something for a change mantra... Don't slander people on public sites you idiot. I don't force my religion down peoples throats nor do I think my beliefs make me better than them. I guess that just makes you a lying bitch.

I just argue the facts with facts.

[Super Nova]

"Christians believe you can come back from the dead after a couple of days after lying in a hot an sweaty cave."
That's a BULLSHIT statement... only Jesus was resurrected in such a manner... the general "you" is clearly Bullshit.
Pull the other one SN... it plays jingle bells

Well excuse me.

Christians believe a human can come back from the dead.... don't they. I special human that is the son of god that died for our sins.

[Super Nova]

Roach, if we were to even have a discussion on this, I am sure it would go something like this.

Christian: “Everything with a beginning requires a cause. The universe has a beginning and therefore requires a cause. That cause is God.”

Atheist: “Even if it were true that everything with a beginning requires a cause, how do you know that the cause of the universe is God? Why not a big bang? Maybe this universe sprang from another universe, as some physicists now believe.”

Christian: “The living creatures of this world clearly exhibit design. Therefore, they must have a designer. And that designer is God.”

Atheist: “The living creatures only appear to be designed. Natural selection can account for this apparent design. Poorly adapted organisms tend to die off, and do not pass on their genes.”

Christian: “But living creatures have irreducible complexity. All their essential parts must be in place at the same time, or the organism dies. So God must have created these parts all at the same time. A gradual evolutionary path simply will not work.”

Atheist: “Just because you cannot imagine a gradual stepwise way of constructing an organism does not mean there isn’t one.”

Christian: “DNA has information in it—the instructions to form a living being. And information never comes about by chance; it always comes from a mind. So DNA proves that God created the first creatures.”

Atheist: “There could be an undiscovered mechanism that generates information in the DNA. Give us time, and we will eventually discover it. And even if DNA did come from intelligence, why would you think that intelligence is God? Maybe aliens seeded life on earth.”

Christian: “The Resurrection of Jesus proves the existence of God. Only God can raise the dead.”

Atheist: “You don’t really have any proof that Jesus rose from the dead. This section of the Bible is simply an embellished story. And even if it were true, it proves nothing. Perhaps under certain rare chemical conditions, a dead organism can come back to life. It certainly doesn’t mean that there is a God.”

Christian: “The Bible claims that God exists, and that it is His Word to us. Furthermore, what the Bible says must be true, since God cannot lie.”

Atheist: “That is a circular argument. Only if we knew in advance that God existed would it be reasonable to even consider the possibility that the Bible is His Word. If God does not exist—as I contend—then there is no reason to trust the Bible.”

Christian: “Predictive prophecy shows that the Bible really must be inspired by God. All of the Old Testament prophecies concerning Christ, for example, were fulfilled. The odds of that happening by chance are very low.”

Atheist: “A low probability isn’t the same as zero. People do win the lottery. Besides, maybe the Gospels have embellished what Jesus did, so that it would agree with the Old Testament prophecies. Perhaps some so-called prophetic books were actually written after the events they ‘predict.’ Maybe certain gifted individuals have abilities not yet understood by science and can occasionally predict the future. It certainly doesn’t prove the Bible is inspired by God.”

Christian: “I have personally experienced God, and so have many other Christians. He has saved us and transformed our lives. We know that He exists from experience.”

Atheist: “Unfortunately, your personal experiences are not open to investigation; I have only your word for it. And second, how do you know that such subjective feelings are really the result of God? The right drug might produce similar feelings.”