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Re: errr Global Warming?

Post by Super Nova » Sat Dec 05, 2015 9:25 pm

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Suck it up skeptic princesses.

Why Climate Skeptics Are Wrong

At some point in the history of all scientific theories, only a minority of scientists—or even just one—supported them, before evidence accumulated to the point of general acceptance. The Copernican model, germ theory, the vaccination principle, evolutionary theory, plate tectonics and the big bang theory were all once heretical ideas that became consensus science. How did this happen?

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An answer may be found in what 19th-century philosopher of science William Whewell called a “consilience of inductions.” For a theory to be accepted, Whewell argued, it must be based on more than one induction—or a single generalization drawn from specific facts. It must have multiple inductions that converge on one another, independently but in conjunction. “Accordingly the cases in which inductions from classes of facts altogether different have thus jumped together,” he wrote in his 1840 book The Philosophy of the Inductive Sciences, “belong only to the best established theories which the history of science contains.” Call it a “convergence of evidence.”

Consensus science is a phrase often heard today in conjunction with anthropogenic global warming (AGW). Is there a consensus on AGW? There is. The tens of thousands of scientists who belong to the American Association for the Advancement of Science, the American Chemical Society, the American Geophysical Union, the American Medical Association, the American Meteorological Society, the American Physical Society, the Geological Society of America, the U.S. National Academy of Sciences and, most notably, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change all concur that AGW is in fact real. Why?

It is not because of the sheer number of scientists. After all, science is not conducted by poll. As Albert Einstein said in response to a 1931 book skeptical of relativity theory entitled 100 Authors against Einstein, “Why 100? If I were wrong, one would have been enough.” The answer is that there is a convergence of evidence from multiple lines of inquiry—pollen, tree rings, ice cores, corals, glacial and polar ice-cap melt, sea-level rise, ecological shifts, carbon dioxide increases, the unprecedented rate of temperature increase—that all converge to a singular conclusion. AGW doubters point to the occasional anomaly in a particular data set, as if one incongruity gainsays all the other lines of evidence. But that is not how consilience science works. For AGW skeptics to overturn the consensus, they would need to find flaws with all the lines of supportive evidence and show a consistent convergence of evidence toward a different theory that explains the data. (Creationists have the same problem overturning evolutionary theory.) This they have not done.

A 2013 study published in Environmental Research Letters by Australian researchers John Cook, Dana Nuccitelli and their colleagues examined 11,944 climate paper abstracts published from 1991 to 2011. Of those papers that stated a position on AGW, about 97 percent concluded that climate change is real and caused by humans. What about the remaining 3 percent or so of studies? What if they're right? In a 2015 paper published in Theoretical and Applied Climatology, Rasmus Benestad of the Norwegian Meteorological Institute, Nuccitelli and their colleagues examined the 3 percent and found “a number of methodological flaws and a pattern of common mistakes.” That is, instead of the 3 percent of papers converging to a better explanation than that provided by the 97 percent, they failed to converge to anything.

“There is no cohesive, consistent alternative theory to human-caused global warming,” Nuccitelli concluded in an August 25, 2015, commentary in the Guardian. “Some blame global warming on the sun, others on orbital cycles of other planets, others on ocean cycles, and so on. There is a 97% expert consensus on a cohesive theory that's overwhelmingly supported by the scientific evidence, but the 2–3% of papers that reject that consensus are all over the map, even contradicting each other. The one thing they seem to have in common is methodological flaws like cherry picking, curve fitting, ignoring inconvenient data, and disregarding known physics.” For example, one skeptical paper attributed climate change to lunar or solar cycles, but to make these models work for the 4,000-year period that the authors considered, they had to throw out 6,000 years' worth of earlier data.

Such practices are deceptive and fail to further climate science when exposed by skeptical scrutiny, an integral element to the scientific process.
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Re: errr Global Warming?

Post by Rorschach » Sun Dec 06, 2015 12:08 am

And you think its not hypocritical to call skeptics Deniers.... :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :du :du :du
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Re: errr Global Warming?

Post by Super Nova » Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:24 am

Yes - A triumph of science, logic and risk management over the unfounded views of skeptics.

World's First Global Deal to Combat Climate Change Adopted in Paris

Paris pact represents the first worldwide effort to reduce greenhouse gas emissions in next decade

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LE BOURGET, FRANCE—A historic, global agreement to combat climate change has been adopted here outside Paris. Aided by the submission of 186 national plans to cut greenhouse gas pollution, negotiators from 196 countries large and small, rich and poor united to deliver a new climate deal that may change the world or, in the words of the agreement's preamble "Mother Earth" (also known as land, seas, skies and life on this planet.)

Full article from a good rag.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... in-paris1/
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Re: errr Global Warming?

Post by Rorschach » Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:24 am

Waste of time and money... perhaps someone should explain to them the story of King Canute. :roll:
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Re: errr Global Warming?

Post by Super Nova » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:54 pm

Maybe you should look at the risks and understand them.

The whole world leadership and scientific consensus means nothing to you.
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Re: errr Global Warming?

Post by Rorschach » Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:25 pm

Super Nova wrote:Maybe you should look at the risks and understand them.

The whole world leadership and scientific consensus means nothing to you.
Maybe you should look at the sky and get back to me when you work out the colour.

You are still spouting ignorant propaganda BTW... why do you waste our time?

Perhaps a trip back to Kindi and a read of The Emperor's New Clothes may help enlighten you too.
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Re: errr Global Warming?

Post by gizmo_2655 » Thu Dec 17, 2015 12:36 am

Super Nova wrote:Yes - A triumph of science, logic and risk management over the unfounded views of skeptics.

World's First Global Deal to Combat Climate Change Adopted in Paris

Paris pact represents the first worldwide effort to reduce greenhouse gas emissions in next decade

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LE BOURGET, FRANCE—A historic, global agreement to combat climate change has been adopted here outside Paris. Aided by the submission of 186 national plans to cut greenhouse gas pollution, negotiators from 196 countries large and small, rich and poor united to deliver a new climate deal that may change the world or, in the words of the agreement's preamble "Mother Earth" (also known as land, seas, skies and life on this planet.)

Full article from a good rag.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... in-paris1/
I'd suggest you actually read the article you linked...
Of course, the 186 national plans already submitted come nowhere near reaching the 1.5 degree or even 2 degrees C overarching goal of the Paris pact. Instead, national plans would result in global emissions of 55 billion metric tons of greenhouse gases in 2030, compared to roughly 35 billion metric tons today. An analysis of 146 of the submitted plans by the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, which range from preserving forests in Indonesia to cutting coal in the U.S., suggests they could keep global warming to less than 3.7 degrees Celsius, if fully implemented by 2030. Hence the emphasis by the so-called "High Ambition Coalition" of countries on including 1.5 degree Celsius in the final deal, according to Tony de Brum, former foreign minister of the Marshall Islands. That amount of global warming—almost guaranteed given current concentrations of CO2 in the atmosphere—is meant to signal a willingness to strive to save countries facing existential risks from climate change. De Brum spoke of his grandchildren afraid of the sea despite growing up alongside the ocean, as high tides reach higher and higher. "That cannot be real, we have to fight that," de Brum says.

So, business as usual for one of the 'all expense paid' holiday/gab-fests :lol: :lol:

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Re: errr Global Warming?

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:04 pm

According to Malcolm Turnbull post Paris "There's money to be made out of Global Warming" via innovation and carbon credits.

So lets invest in Global Warming.
Here's my plan.

First we buy shares in a coal mining company to qualify for acquisition of carbon credits, because only polluters are eligible. Then we purchase some forestry to get in on the carbon sequestration industry via carbon sinks.

Then we kick off a Start Up called Corporate Bastards and list our IPO @ $1 per share.
With the public funding we buy a bathroom fixtures business and a graphite mine.
We make carbon sinks which we sell to the public and claim carbon credits for from the govt.

Next we swap the carbon credits for shares in a crude oil business, and keep doing so til we can take over the company,
preferably not hostile take over so it doesn't make page 2 of the Australian. Once we own the oil company, we manufacture huge volumes of nitrogen based fertilisers and sell on the cheap in order to generate massive amounts of nitrous oxide from farm paddocks.
And wallah! ... Global Warming will accelerate off the scale.

Then we log and sell our forests so we can get more carbon credits for planting new forests, which we continue adding to those received for manufacturing carbon sinks, demand enormous govt compo to shut down our coal mines or we'll sell to China, and restrict crude oil production for essential chemicals to drive up commodities prices.

And lastly sell our shares in Corporate Bastards with which we buy a Fijian island to construct a high tech fortress manned by our private army and armed with Pakistani nukes, then tell the rest of the world to fuck off and die.
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Re: errr Global Warming?

Post by Super Nova » Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:19 pm

Yogi,

Let's call it "PA Bastards Incorporated". Where to a send my investment. Can you be CEO?
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Re: errr Global Warming?

Post by Lucas » Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:53 am

Super Nova wrote:Yes - A triumph of science, logic and risk management over the unfounded views of skeptics.

World's First Global Deal to Combat Climate Change Adopted in Paris

Paris pact represents the first worldwide effort to reduce greenhouse gas emissions in next decade

Image
LE BOURGET, FRANCE—A historic, global agreement to combat climate change has been adopted here outside Paris. Aided by the submission of 186 national plans to cut greenhouse gas pollution, negotiators from 196 countries large and small, rich and poor united to deliver a new climate deal that may change the world or, in the words of the agreement's preamble "Mother Earth" (also known as land, seas, skies and life on this planet.)

Full article from a good rag.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... in-paris1/
Super Nova wrote:Yes - A triumph of science, logic and risk management over the unfounded views of skeptics.

World's First Global Deal to Combat Climate Change Adopted in Paris

Paris pact represents the first worldwide effort to reduce greenhouse gas emissions in next decade

Image
LE BOURGET, FRANCE—A historic, global agreement to combat climate change has been adopted here outside Paris. Aided by the submission of 186 national plans to cut greenhouse gas pollution, negotiators from 196 countries large and small, rich and poor united to deliver a new climate deal that may change the world or, in the words of the agreement's preamble "Mother Earth" (also known as land, seas, skies and life on this planet.)

Full article from a good rag.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... in-paris1/
Idiots in one room that only believe leftardical Scientific Opinions.

Its certainly a sad world when people in power have a low intellect and live with pretend pending Armageddons all the time and can't see the ones at the top blood sucking them dry with one of the worlds greatest scam money making machines ever invented. Smart people just don't bother anymore. I mean lets face it who with high intelligence would want to run a country with a government full of retards.

None. That's why these clowns run the clown fest and we(intelligent people) sit back and watch the fear mongering and the dollars flow. Yet strangely the fear never ever manifests itself resulting in much eye rolling by real intellectuals.

I have never seen anything nor heard anything so stupid as the accusation of being a climate change denier when everyone bloody believes in climate change. Just because someone is not dumb enough to believe all the fear mongering they get labelled a denier by a fool.

I think AL Gore is an awesome fellow myself. He certainly knows how to make a buck and good on him, if there are enough simpletons in the world to pony up the cash and think they are smart. The mans a bloody legend.

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