The Hidden Hand of ISIS: An American Fuck-Up

[AiA in Atlanta]

Under the rule Ottoman Empire all kinds of people lived in relative harmony for centuries in areas now torn by strife. The Ottomans held the military power and left people alone to trade and worship. Empires clearly weren't all bad.

[Outlaw Yogi]

Pick which ever cherry you like, it still doesn't justify an invasion on false pretenses.
But despite a war fought on the pretext of Weapons of Mass Disappearance having taken place,
keeping the Bath party as admin or exterminating them would have negated the drama called Islamic State.
End of story.

So the rest of the middle east would have watched on silently as we rounded up all the baathists and shot them?

Of course they would. The rest of the Mid East watched on silently when U$A & Co illegally invaded Iraq on the pretext of WMDs that didn't exist.
And they also watched silently as U$A & Co rounded up and executed Bath party members depicted on playing cards posing as wanted posters.

Do you realise IS actually started in Syria?

Do you realise you are talking shit?

Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_S ... nt#History

History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_S ... nt#History

Foundation of the group (2003–2006)
Main articles: Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad, Tanzim Qaidat al-Jihad fi Bilad al-Rafidayn and Mujahideen Shura Council (Iraq)

Following the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the Jordanian Salafi Jihadist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and his militant group Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad, founded in 1999, achieved notoriety in the early stages of the Iraqi insurgency for the suicide attacks on Shia Islamic mosques, civilians, Iraqi government institutions and Italian soldiers partaking in the US-led 'Multi-National Force'. Al-Zarqawi's group officially pledged allegiance to Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda network in October 2004, changing its name to Tanzim Qaidat al-Jihad fi Bilad al-Rafidayn (تنظيم قاعدة الجهاد في بلاد الرافدين, "Organisation of Jihad's Base in Mesopotamia"), also known as al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI).[30][77][78] Attacks by the group on civilians, Iraqi Government and security forces, foreign diplomats and soldiers, and American convoys continued with roughly the same intensity. In a letter to al-Zarqawi in July 2005, al-Qaeda's then deputy leader Ayman al-Zawahiri outlined a four-stage plan to expand the Iraq War. The plan included expelling US forces from Iraq, establishing an Islamic authority as a caliphate, spreading the conflict to Iraq's secular neighbours, and clashing with Israel, which the letter says "was established only to challenge any new Islamic entity".[79]
Iraqi insurgents in 2006

In January 2006, AQI joined hands with several smaller Iraqi insurgent groups under an umbrella organisation called the Mujahideen Shura Council (MSC). This was claimed by Brian Fishman in the Annals of the American Academy of Political and Social Science to be little more than a media exercise and an attempt to give the group a more Iraqi flavour and perhaps to distance al-Qaeda from some of al-Zarqawi's tactical errors, more notably the 2005 bombings by AQI of three hotels in Amman.[80] On 7 June 2006, a US airstrike killed al-Zarqawi, who was succeeded as leader of the group by the Egyptian militant Abu Ayyub al-Masri.[81][82]

On 12 October 2006, MSC united with three smaller groups and six Sunni Islamic tribes to form the "Mutayibeen Coalition". It swore by Allah "... to rid Sunnis from the oppression of the rejectionists (Shi'ite Muslims) and the crusader occupiers, ... to restore rights even at the price of our own lives... to make Allah's word supreme in the world, and to restore the glory of Islam...".[83][84] A day later, MSC declared the establishment of the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI), which should comprise Iraq's six mostly Sunni Arab governorates,[85] with Abu Omar al-Baghdadi being announced as its Emir.[54][86] Al-Masri was given the title of Minister of War within the ISI's ten-member cabinet.[87]

Timeline of ISIL related events
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_ ... ted_events

On 8 April 2013, having expanded into Syria, the group Islamic State of Iraq (ISI) adopted the name Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, also known as the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham.[1][2][3]

[freediver]

Of course they would. The rest of the Mid East watched on silently when U$A & Co illegally invaded Iraq on the pretext of WMDs that didn't exist.
And they also watched silently as U$A & Co rounded up and executed Bath party members depicted on playing cards posing as wanted posters.

Not a peep eh?

[Andrew Bolt]

What we are facing::

The children each received a doll and a sword. Then they were lined up, more than 120 of them, and given their next lesson by their Islamic State group instructors: Behead the doll.”

A 14 year old who was among the line of abducted boys from Iraq’s Yazidi religious minority said at first he couldn’t cut it right — he chopped once, twice, three times.

“Then they taught me how to hold the sword, and they told me how to hit. They told me it was the head of the infidels,” the boy, renamed Yahya by his Islamic State captors, recalled in an interview last week with The Associated Press in northern Iraq, where he fled after escaping the IS training camp.

And the reach of the Islamic States extends now into Turkey:
Warning: Graphic Content



A suspected female Islamic State suicide bomber has set off an explosion near a cultural centre hosting youth activists in a Turkish town near the border with Syria, leaving 31 dead and scores injured.

The blast ripped through the centre in Suruc, just a few miles from the Syrian flashpoint of Kobane - which was itself later hit in a co-ordinated suicide car bombing.

Most of the dead were university students with the Federation of Socialist Youths, who had been planning a mission to help rebuild Kobane, which was retaken by Kurds from Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil) militants earlier this year.

I don’t think people really understand the evil we face

If Isil’s role is confirmed, it would be one of the extremist group’s deadliest strike on Turkish soil to date.

[Andrew Bolt]

Top general: Obama pulled out of Iraq too soon

Barack Obama neutered the US military might and surrendered Iraq to the Islamic State. Hear it from the top man in the US Army:

Army Chief of Staff Gen. Ray Odierno, ... spent more time in Iraq than any other U.S. Army general—more than four years, the last two as top commander…

In an exclusive interview with Fox News, the general ... had pointed words on the rise of ISIS in Iraq and Syria – suggesting it didn’t have to be this way.

“It’s frustrating to watch it,” Odierno said. “I go back to the work we did in 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2010 and we got it to a place that was really good. Violence was low, the economy was growing, politics looked like it was heading in the right direction.”

Odierno said the fall of large parts of Iraq was not inevitable, reiterating concerns about the pace of the U.S. troop withdrawal there.

”If we had stayed a little more engaged, I think maybe it might have been prevented,” he said. “I’ve always believed the United States played the role of honest broker between all the groups and when we pulled ourselves out, we lost that role.”
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In 2009, while still the top commander in Iraq, Odierno recommended keeping 30,000-35,000 U.S. troops after the end of 2011, when the U.S. was scheduled to pull out. The recommendation was not followed..

Odierno, though, is most worried about the deep cuts to the Army over the past four years – from 570,000 troops in 2010 to near 490,000 today, a reduction of 14 percent. And the cuts are getting deeper.

“In my mind, we don’t have the ability to deter. The reason we have a military is to deter conflict and prevent wars. And if people believe we are not big enough to respond, they miscalculate,” Odierno said.

[Andrew Bolt]

Ayaan Hirsi Ali:

Islamic extremism is a cancer that is spreading around the world, claiming innocent lives from Chibok in Borno State, Nigeria, to Chattanooga, Tennessee, here in the US. With every passing year, an increasing share of armed conflict and terrorism around the world is attributable to the pernicious influence of militant Islam.

Yet for more than a decade western leaders — conservatives and liberals alike — have united in insisting that “Islam is a religion of peace” and buying the absurd notion that Islamophobia is the threat we should worry more about. Until this week. On Monday, at long last, the British prime minister stood up and said what urgently needed to be said.

He condemned what he called “Islamist extremism” as a doctrine “hostile to basic liberal values such as democracy, freedom and sexual equality” and based on the conspiracy theory that the West is out to destroy Islam. And he boldly rejected what he called “the grievance justification” for extremism and the violence it spawns.

I could not agree more. All over the world today Islamists infiltrate Muslim communities and tell them: “The infidel is at war with your religion.” Every time we in the West wring our hands about a largely imagined Islamophobia, or call Muslim communities in the West “disenfranchised”, which they are not, we are empowering Islamic extremists by unwittingly endorsing their message…

In defending with confidence an inclusive British identity based on democracy, the rule of law, the freedom of expression and worship, and equality regardless of race, sex, sexual orientation or faith, the prime minister has made it clear why a literal application of unreformed Islam is incompatible with British values.

[AiA in Atlanta]

Islamic extremism is a cancer that is spreading around the world, claiming innocent lives from Chibok in Borno State, Nigeria, to Chattanooga, Tennessee, here in the US..

The shooter in Tennessee acted alone. Just the facts: "Every day in the U.S., an average of 289 people are shot. Eighty-six of them die: 30 are murdered, 53 kill themselves, two die accidentally, and one is shot in a police intervention, the Brady Campaign reports." So, on the day of the Tennessee shooting, 5 people were murdered that day at the hands of a "Islamic extremist." What about the other 25 ... that day? And the 30 the next day? And the 30 the following day?

[IQS.RLOW]

Wow...a lefty apologist for radical Islam killing Americans.

Who could have ever seen that coming?

[AiA in Atlanta]

Wow...a lefty apologist for radical Islam killing Americans.

Who could have ever seen that coming?

What did Australia do after its last mass shooting? Why was it the last mass shooting and not just another one like in the States?

[IQS.RLOW]

I can only hope an NRA holder overhears you whispering to your other cowardly lefty comrades and decides to take you all out.

I'd buy that man a beer.

If he's a black man, you will have the honour of being shot by one of Obama's "sons" and will rest in peace knowing that it won't be his fault you are dead.