Government to revoke citizenship of dissenters

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Re: Government to revoke citizenship of dissenters

Post by Black Orchid » Sun May 31, 2015 4:40 pm

I am not happy about paying for their upkeep in jail. They will be secretly released into a neighbourhood near you before you know it and they will have met many more hateful converts, or people of like minds, in the prison system that they can continue to conspire with.

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Re: Government to revoke citizenship of dissenters

Post by boxy » Sun May 31, 2015 7:36 pm

So, we're all happy for politicians to have the ability to revoke citizenship because of "un-Australian" behaviour?
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Re: Government to revoke citizenship of dissenters

Post by boxy » Sun May 31, 2015 7:52 pm

"It wouldn't be a decision taken lightly. There would need to be significant and compelling reasons for a minister of the day to act," Mr Dutton told Sky News.

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Re: Government to revoke citizenship of dissenters

Post by mantra » Sun May 31, 2015 8:30 pm

boxy wrote:So, we're all happy for politicians to have the ability to revoke citizenship because of "un-Australian" behaviour?
Revoking citizenship shouldn't just apply to those signing up to IS - it should apply to anyone who leaves this country to assist an enemy overseas. Of course the government has to make it clear as to who our enemies are.

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Re: Government to revoke citizenship of dissenters

Post by Rorschach » Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:09 am

boxy wrote:So, we're all happy for politicians to have the ability to revoke citizenship because of "un-Australian" behaviour?
yes I'd say most of us sane people are happy to have people with dual citizenship who don't consider themselves Australian anyway and are a risk to our society to have their citizenship revoked and if needs be... be deported. Want I should type that more slowly for you and the rest of the Useful idiots? :du
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Re: Government to revoke citizenship of dissenters

Post by boxy » Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:09 pm

And our PMs preferred option, of being able to strip anyone of their citizenship, even if it meant rendering them stateless. Surely that couldn't pass judicial review?
The matter was not listed on the cabinet agenda. There was no cabinet submission. There was no written proposal of any kind in front of the ministers.

Abbott brought up the subject only at the end of a cabinet meeting on other business, then asked Dutton to speak on it. It emerged during debate that there was a discussion paper on the subject, and Brandis volunteered that he had seen a copy and had been debating the idea with Abbott in the inner sanctum of cabinet's National Security Committee.

It was at this point in a tense and difficult debate that Bishop stunned the meeting with a further revelation: "I haven't seen a discussion paper."

The ministers around the table instantly understood. The Prime Minister had tried to ambush his cabinet.

Bishop is the deputy leader of the Liberal Party, the Foreign Affairs Minister, the minister with oversight of the Australian Secret Intelligence Service, a member of the National Security Committee of cabinet and a central figure in Australia's effort to defeat the terrorists of the so-called Islamic State.

The depth of mistrust between the Liberal leader and his deputy was starkly exposed.

Abbott told the meeting that, if ministers wanted to see it, he could have his office send around copies of the discussion paper. "We had been attempted to be duped," said a cabinet member speaking after the meeting.

Turnbull was incensed: "Here we go again," he told his Prime Minister in the meeting. "Talking about something as momentous as this and there is nothing in front of us. There's a discussion paper that only a few of us have seen. This is a shambles."

Turnbull asked Abbott directly if the Daily Telegraph had been briefed on the proposal for the next morning's paper, which would have meant the cabinet meeting had been pre-empted by the Prime Minister's press office. The Telegraph is a favoured Abbott outlet for signalling his moves in advance.

It had not, replied Abbott.

Yet the next morning the Telegraph carried a report saying that the proposal would be "included in the bill" that had been approved by the cabinet the night before. Oops.
Good thing there are wiser heads in the Cabinet room, to over-rule Tony's knee jerk reactions to whatever his shock jock mates are blathering about this week :roll:

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Re: Government to revoke citizenship of dissenters

Post by Neferti » Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:34 pm

Don't worry boxy, the Government won't be after you. Fondling sheep isn't a crime in Australia. :lol:

If I were AiA and Super Nova I might worry though as I presume they have dual citizenship. If not, why are they Moderating this AUSTRALIAN POLITICAL Forum? :mrgreen:

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Re: Government to revoke citizenship of dissenters

Post by IQS.RLOW » Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:34 pm

Surely that couldn't pass judicial review?
Surely it time that these decisions were taken out of the hands of the judiciary considering how removed from normal society they are, they managed to release Monis on bail and another violent goat fucker just recently.

The judiciary has completely failed the people because it is full of soft cock lefties who are clueless fucking gimps.

The decision to strip citizenship from those that deserve it is far to important to be left up to the judiciary as the judiciary level of evidence is impossible to meet. In cases like this, when a line is crossed, then the accused must be guilty until the can prove themselves innocent.
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Re: Government to revoke citizenship of dissenters

Post by boxy » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:05 pm

IQS.RLOW wrote:
Surely that couldn't pass judicial review?
Surely it time that these decisions were taken out of the hands of the judiciary...
And put into the hands of rabble rousers like Bolt and Jones, who pull the strings of the most shallow and poll driven politicians.

That way leads to fascism.

Set this precedent, and sooner or later, it will be brought to bear on other undesirables. Racists, socialists, gays, capitalist pig-dogs... as long as they're suspected of the evil of the day.
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Re: Government to revoke citizenship of dissenters

Post by IQS.RLOW » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:32 pm

Too bad.

You soft cock leftist fluffy bunnies have managed to fuck the system with your long march through the institutions, poisoning them with your fucked up progressive ideals. This is a problem that can't be solved with fucked up progressive ideals, because you are too soft cocked to be able to deal with them.

So get out of the fucking way for once in your miserable fucking existence and let the problem solvers protect you from yourself, pissant.

Considering your behaviour on this forum, you would be all for fascism, you fucked up little left wing dog blower.
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