Did Affluence Spur the Rise of Modern Religions?

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Did Affluence Spur the Rise of Modern Religions?

Post by Super Nova » Mon May 18, 2015 3:33 am

I always thought this.

When we had the time to ponder... we pondered and got organised.... then leaders found it gave political power.



Reliable food and energy may have freed up time to think about the purpose of life

By Bret Stetka | Apr 9, 2015

About 2,500 years ago something changed the way humans think. Within the span of two centuries, in three separate regions of Eurasia, spiritual movements emerged that would give rise to the world's major moral religions, those preaching some combination of compassion, humility and asceticism. Scholars often attribute the rise of these moral religions—Buddhism, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism and Christianity included—to population growth, seeing morality as a necessary social stabilizer in increasingly large and volatile human communities. Yet findings from a recent study published in Current Biology point to a different factor: rising affluence.

The authors investigated variables relating to political complexity and living standards. Affluence emerged as a major force in the rise of moral religion, in particular, access to energy. Across cultures moral religions abruptly emerged when members of a population could reliably source 20,000 calories of energy a day, including food (for humans and livestock), fuel and raw materials.

“This number appears to correspond with a certain peace of mind,” says lead author Nicolas Baumard, a research scientist at École Normale Supérieure in Paris. “Having a roof over your head, not feeling like the world is full of predators and enemies, knowing that you'll have enough to eat tomorrow.” As Baumard points out, psychology research shows that affluence appears to influence our motivations and reward circuitry away from short-term gain to also considering the benefits of long-term strategy. In other words, with a steady energy supply, we had more time to cooperate, cultivate skills and consider consequences. Affluence also allowed more time for existential pondering: maybe we have some greater moral responsibility; perhaps life has a purpose.

Baumard acknowledges that moral and ascetic qualities probably existed in humans before the major religions emphasizing them. Other experts believe that the paper may not consider these inherent qualities seriously enough. Barbara King, an anthropologist at the College of William & Mary, argues that the study exaggerates the sharp transition to the moral belief systems. She suggests that a more gradual transition may have taken place—one that was perhaps nudged over the line by a reliable calorie count. “Anthropologists and psychologists have found deep roots of morality and compassion in other primates,” King explains. “I don't see any reason to assume that cosmological morality and compassion were not important to earlier hunter-gatherer groups.”

Bernard J. Crespi, an evolutionary biologist at Simon Fraser University in British Columbia, also cautions against Baumard's claim: “The main idea in the article is fascinating, but the causal link between increasing affluence and religion remains to be established. Our work actually suggests that the authors might have their causality reversed—that religion itself drives increases in affluence via its effects on increased cooperation.”

Still, Baumard's findings point to a strong association between affluence and the emergence of moral religion, specifically. Plenty of ancient societies cooperated and had religious beliefs—the Maya, Sumerians and Egyptians among them. For the most part, however, none of these societies' belief systems emphasized morality or material and visceral restraint. And according to Baumard, members of these societies never had access to more than 15,000 calories a day. Whether cause or effect, morality, it seems, takes energy.

The Beginnings of Moral Religion

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These five major movements mark the beginning of humanity's turn toward religions that emphasize personal morality and asceticism, according to a new study. —Victoria Stern

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Re: Did Affluence Spur the Rise of Modern Religions?

Post by freediver » Mon May 18, 2015 1:34 pm

Timeline does not equal affluence or spare time. The west was a long way ahead of the east in terms of living standards until well after the fall of the Roman empire. The Song Dynasty came close to Rome's peak level of wealth, about 1200 AD I think. Furthermore, there were plenty of spiritual movements before those. Although Rome had some very interesting (and at the time unusual) political mechanisms, plus plenty of spare time to argue about things, the key religious movement that arose at the time came from the fringes. Islam arose later out of a backwater in which there was not even a centralised form of government. On the other hand, if you want an example of people with plenty of spare time to think about religious concepts, go for a hunter-gatherer society with no ability to store food. Once you have eaten your fill, there is not much to do but sit around and digest. Or a place with a long winter where the cabin fever sets in.

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Re: Did Affluence Spur the Rise of Modern Religions?

Post by Super Nova » Mon May 18, 2015 1:41 pm

The article is focused on the big ones that survived.

Moral religions..... interesting term don't you think considering the suffering many of them at various times imposed on their followers.
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Re: Did Affluence Spur the Rise of Modern Religions?

Post by miketrees » Sun May 24, 2015 10:30 pm

I think that is a reasonable proposition.

Affluence may have started it, but ignorance has perpetuated it. (in a way)

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Post by freediver » Mon May 25, 2015 7:15 pm

So by this logic we should be more religious now than ever, given how affluent we are?

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Post by boxy » Mon May 25, 2015 7:25 pm

I've heard it proposed that spirituality encouraged nomads to settle down around sacred sites, leading to farming, and then the beginnings of urbanisation. I doubt it's a chicken or the egg situation, but a situation where religion and technology encouraged (and at times, discouraged) each other in complex ways.
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Re: Did Affluence Spur the Rise of Modern Religions?

Post by skippy » Tue May 26, 2015 10:27 am

freediver wrote:So by this logic we should be more religious now than ever, given how affluent we are?
This is an interesting subject.
I think we hit the religious "peak" around a hundred years ago but education since then has led people away from religion. The better educated people are the less likely they are to believe in any one organised religion.

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Re: Did Affluence Spur the Rise of Modern Religions?

Post by Super Nova » Tue May 26, 2015 4:53 pm

freediver wrote:So by this logic we should be more religious now than ever, given how affluent we are?
Haven't you notice ISIS/ISIL and the US bible belt.

The uneducated are very religious. Islam is 1/3 of the world population and growing and they pray 5 times a day. How many times in the last year have you prayed.

It is growing.......

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Re: Did Affluence Spur the Rise of Modern Religions?

Post by freediver » Tue May 26, 2015 8:38 pm

Haven't you notice ISIS/ISIL and the US bible belt.
Of course. They both prove the relationship between affluence and religiosity equally well don't they?

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Re: Did Affluence Spur the Rise of Modern Religions?

Post by Super Nova » Tue May 26, 2015 11:19 pm

freediver wrote:
Haven't you notice ISIS/ISIL and the US bible belt.
Of course. They both prove the relationship between affluence and religiosity equally well don't they?
Well they do not as you know.

I really think in this modern age the relationship is not there.

this thread really is about the birth of religion which I think has been an important part of our societal development.

Now... religion is just politics.... I think in the beginning people really sat down and had time to think about more then their survival and so the unanswerable big questions were first pondered. It is a logical conclusion that a deity created all and had influence in their lives. Affluence then meant have the basics and time on your hands.

I can see that because when I was little, watching sunflowers raise their heads in the morning and direct themselves to the sun, then follow it all day looked like the flower was worshiping the sun. The bees worshipped the flower. Nature has it's own rhythm and it looks like it was designed.

Catastrophic events like volcano blowing up or tsunamis would have looked like acts from an evil or punishing god. Imagine how they explained earthquakes. Once we had the free time, formed into larger groups, those with ponding minds needed answers and god or gods were born.

Then this concept became a tool of politics.
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