Hizb ut-Tahrir in Australia

[Black Orchid]

THE leader of Hizb ut-Tahrir Australia has described the callous killing of Charlie Hebdo staff by Parisian Islamic terrorists as a “cure”.

Ismail Alwahwah, who also attended rallies with Martin Place gunman Man Haron Monis, wrote a lengthy diatribe on the attack in which he claimed the attacks were a reaction to “daily humiliation” of Muslims and “insults to their book and prophet”.

The Bankstown man – whose organisation describe themselves as a “political party whose ideology is Islam” – headed his vile article “Commentary on Charlie Hebdo and the physical law of compression” and used scientific analogies to justify the brutal slaughter.

“The pressure — is responsible for triggering the explosion, the cure has always focused on eliminating pressure or reducing it,” he wrote.

“As a result, it is assumed necessary in all cases to ensure that the pressure does not exceed the red lines, which will then ultimately lead to irreversible problems.”

He said the Islamic extremists who stormed the Charlie Hebdo offices and murdered 12 people — including editors, staff, policemen and maintenance workers — were part of an explosion triggered by pressure from the west.

“Woe, time and again, to all those who point the finger at any pressure when it gets a blast from the Muslims, regardless of size......For the accusation is ready; You justify the explosion, you justify terrorism,” Alwahwah wrote.

On Sunday Hizb ut-Tahrir released a statement refusing to condemn the terrorist attacks, instead criticising the satirical French magazine, describing western leaders as criminals and warning Australians that insults to their religion would end in violence.

“It seems some in Australia are arrogantly and irresponsibly heedless of the fact that provoking and insulting a people’s core beliefs is a matter that can only end in acrimony for everyone concerned,” the statement — titled We Will Not Abandon Our Prophet — read.

“The actions of Charlie Hebdo have been rightly criticised by many sane voices in Europe. Scores of people of faith and no faith, with the slightest concern for societal harmony, have expressed their disapproval of the deliberate insult and provocation of a people’s core beliefs, warning that such actions will generate responses that are undesirable to communal harmony.

“Muslims, too, have red lines over which no compromise can be accepted. Ignoring this fact is ignorance at best and blind arrogance at worst.”

The chilling words appeared on the website of the Australian branch of a global anti-democratic movement based on imposing an Islamic caliphate.

In the past they have drawn controversy for supporting sharia law and for a planned talk last year titled “Honour killings are morally justified”.

Hizb ut-Tahrir Australia did not return The Daily Telegraph’s calls.

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[Rorschach]

Yeah.... I remember all those Christian terrorists that went berserk when Piss-Christ was in Australia and doing the rounds of the world.
Much more offensive than the odd cartoon.
But then we ain't muslims.

[Black Orchid]

Back in October Tony was planning to take a hard line against Hizb ut-Tahrir and was going to look anew at banning them. I wonder if this will actually happen.

I won't hold my breath.

[Neferti]

WHY are we pussy footing around Muslims?

I lied, I saw TWO females with head scarves at my local shopping centre yesterday. I also saw at least 100 people who were white. Not one black person but there are several around here as well.

So, we change the LAW for the minorities? Get the majorities all het up and then we have CIVIL WAR to sort it out? Does that make any sense at all?

I cannot see me living until 2045 but I think LIFE will be a lot different by then. Our grandchildren and their children will be faced with the "enemy". ISLAM

STOP IMMIGRATION NOW!

[Black Orchid]

Because our politicians are too gutless.

Remember al-Hilali? Keating stepped in to stop his deportation and granted him permanent residency, even after he had overstayed his visa. He was the little creep who preached that the two cheapest things in Australia were the women and pig meat. He also blamed women for being raped and likened them to abandoned meat. Chris Hurford, the then Immigration Minister, fought against al-Hilali staying in the Federal Court then got kicked to the kerb by Hawke and Keating.

Tony won't do a thing and nor would Shorten. Tony doesn't need the votes of the Bankstown electorate and should step up to the plate instead of apologising and skirting around these issues.

We need a referendum.

[Rorschach]

Hawke refused a referendum on multiculti and both parties support large immigration numbers.

[Rorschach]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-09/p ... ts/5801046

[Black Orchid]

Yes, back in October Tony was quite vocal about it. What has he done since? Not much that I can see.

[Black Orchid]

A Liberal Party MP has called on the federal government to ban an Islamic extremist group that advocates death for ex-Muslims and domestic violence for disobedient wives.

Former attorney-general George Brandis last year declined to outlaw Hizb ut-Tahrir which is banned in a series of Muslim-majority nations, including Indonesia, Egypt and Jordan.

NSW MP Gareth Ward told Daily Mail Australia the Islamic extremist group pushing for Sharia law was like the Ku Klux Klan white supremacist group.

'The KKK is to Christianity what Hizb ut-Tahrir is to Islam,' he said on Thursday, ahead of his motion being added to the parliamentary notice paper.

'This is a group that challenges the fundamental freedoms, liberties that every Australian has the right to enjoy and they are seeking to impose things like Sharia law which challenges our legal system.'

Mr Ward is calling on the federal government to add Hizb ut-Tahrir to the Australian National Security list of 26 banned terror groups.

'These people are extremists,' he said.

'They advocate for the right of men to beat their wives, the separation of women so much so they were successfully sued for doing so at their meetings.

'They have statements in their constitution that those guilty of apostasy (leaving the religion) should be executed.

'These are statements that are beyond free speech. They cross that line.'

Unlike One Nation leader Pauline Hanson and former Katter's Australian Party senator Fraser Anning, Mr Ward is a political centrist who supports multiculturalism and Muslim immigration.

'I believe in a multicultural Australia, one that is welcoming of everyone who comes here to make this country greater but I also believe it's important for politicians to be tough to call these statements out where they see them,' he said.

In March last year Daily Mail Australia caught on camera Hizb ut-Tahrir spokesman Uthman Badar confirming his group supported the death penalty for ex-Muslims, also known as apostates.

'The ruling for apostates as such in Islam is clear, that apostates attract capital punishment and we don't shy away from that,' Badar said in the presence of children at Bankstown in Sydney's south-west.

In 2016 freelance journalist Alison Bevege, who now works at Daily Mail Australia, successfully sued the group for gender discrimination, after they had forced her to sit in a gender-segregated area.

Less than a year later, she asked Mr Badar about its draft constitution of the khilafah state which states, in section 7c, that ex-Muslims needed to be 'executed according the rule of apostasy'.

Weeks later, Hizb ut-Tahrir Women made a video justifying domestic violence, with Sydney primary school teacher Reem Allouche demonstrating how husbands could beat their wives with a stick.

During the 30-minute discussion at a meeting in Sydney's west, Ms Allouche and fellow panellist Atika Latifi - both wearing headscarves - described how assaulting women was a 'symbolic act'.

Mr Ward, the member for Kiama on the South Coast, said Hizb ut-Tahrir was not a reflection on all Muslims.

'There is a difference to being politically correct and being politically appropriate and I believe I'm being politically appropriate,' he said.

The Department of Home Affairs, which now has oversight on national security, said Hizb ut-Tahrir did not fit the threshold to be listed as a terrorist group under the Criminal Code.

'This is consistent with the approach taken by the United Nations Security Council, and other western nations, including the UK, US and New Zealand,' it said in a statement.

'The issue of which organisations should be proscribed as a terrorist organisation remains under active review by relevant security and intelligence agencies.'

Daily Mail Australia contacted Hizb ut-Tahrir Australia for a right-of-reply.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... paign=1490

[Rorschach]

Former attorney-general George Brandis last year declined to outlaw Hizb ut-Tahrir which is banned in a series of Muslim-majority nations, including Indonesia, Egypt and Jordan.

What would Muslims know right?