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Re: Immigration and Multiculturalism

Post by Rorschach » Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:05 pm

Gotta love that Multiculti...
Hostage's insight into terrorists' MO: brainwash Western children to take the jihad home
Date November 3, 2014 - 3:22PM
Rachel Olding
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They are not looking for footsoldiers.
Rather, terrorist groups in the Middle East are recruiting Westerners because they're looking for people who will indoctrinate their young children to bring the messages of hate back home and carve out mini-Islamic empires.

In a chilling insight into the modus operandi of terrorist groups in Syria, American hostage Theo Padnos said he observed eight-year-old children being trained to torture prisoners, wear suicide belts and chant anti-Western anthems.

Padnos, a journalist who penetrated Islamic circles in Yemen, was kidnapped by the Al-Qaeda offshoot Jabhat al-Nusra, or Nusra Front, in Syria in October 2012 and tortured for 22 months before being released.

"Over the last 22 months, I had stopped being surprised when Nusra Front commanders introduced their eight-year-old sons to me by saying, 'He will be a suicide martyr someday, by the will of God,' Padnos wrote in The New York Times last week.

"Around the prisons, they wore large pouches with red wires sticking out of them - apparently suicide belts - and sang their 'destroy the Jews, death to America' anthems in the hallways".

And, he added, it would be a mistake to think this was only occurring in Syria.

His observations are proving eerily true in Australia, where children as young as six are being drawn into overseas conflicts and brainwashed to support the jihad.

Wanted terrorist Khaled Sharrouf has his two young sons with him in Syria, posting images online of the boys holding severed heads with the caption "that's my boy!".

The four children of wanted terrorist Mohamed Elomar were also recently stopped boarding a plane in Sydney with their mother, Fatima, allegedly bound for the Middle East with terrorist-related materials.

Bankstown teenager Abdullah Elmir, 17, has become the latest poster boy for ISIS in Iraq, after he escaped Australia with a 16 year-old friend, telling his family he was going fishing.

It followed the emergence of a video depicting children aged six to 13 chanting violent and racist slogans at an event in western Sydney organised by fringe group Hizb-ut Tahrir.

"It would be a mistake to assume that only Syrians are educating their children in this manner," Padnos wrote.

"The Nusra Front higher-ups were inviting Westerners to the jihad in Syria not so much because they needed more foot soldiers - they didn't - but because they want the Westerners to take the struggle into every neighbourhood and subway station back home.

"They want these Westerners to train their eight-year-olds to do the same. Over time, they said, the jihadists would carve mini-Islamic emirates out of the Western countries, as the Islamic State had done in Syria and Iraq."

Nusra Front were the dominant rebel group fighting the Syrian regime until Islamic State in Syria and the Levant, now known as Islamic State, took over and spread into Iraq.

Recent reports suggest the two groups have joined forces.

Last month, NSW Minister for Citizenship and Communities Victor Dominello vowed to expose those "who seek to import overseas conflict onto our streets" following the discovery of the Hizb-ut Tahrir video from an event in Lakemba in 2013.

In the video, the children promise to die fighting to end democracy in Australia and call for American President Barack Obama to go to hell.

"For adults to be manipulating young Australian children and indoctrinating them with violent ideologies is deplorable," Mr Dominello said.

He said the police and Department of Family and Community Services were involved.

The Australian Federal Police are also reportedly working with NSW school teachers to help identify brainwashed children.


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Re: Immigration and Multiculturalism

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Tue Nov 04, 2014 4:03 pm

Righto, lets get the Mozzies out of the way 1st.
Apologists for Islam blame muslim behaviour on testosterone, isolation, alienation, racism, excuses excuses ect ect.
Some accept that Lebanese muslims tend to be crims ... who are proud of the criminality of their community, but claim other muslims are not so inclined.
Well the preacher credited with radicalizing muslims in OZ who now chop heads in Syria is Bosnian.

I can see no good reason for Australia allowing immigration, but can see lots of bad reasons for Australia to encourage it.

Multiculturalism is a farcical term used to make multi-racialism sound more appeasing.
If Donald Trump is so close to the Ruskis, why couldn't he get Vladimir Putin to put novichok in Xi Jjinping's lipstick?

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Re: Immigration and Multiculturalism

Post by Rorschach » Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:32 pm

The rise of the anti-immigrant Sweden Democrats: ‘We don’t feel at home any more, and it’s their fault’
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/d ... istianstad
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Post by Rorschach » Tue Dec 30, 2014 7:35 pm

I noticed how mantra mentioned yet again that Multiculti is a fact of life and is here to stay.

Why mantra... ?
It's just a bloody settlement policy.
One the Nethrlands Government are getting rid of apparently.

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2013/04/2 ... nt-whores/

We should follow suit and get rid of it too. :thumb
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Re: Immigration and Multiculturalism

Post by Black Orchid » Tue Dec 30, 2014 7:49 pm

Have they actually followed through on that promise?

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Post by Rorschach » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:00 pm

Not sure haven't checked their legislation yet.
http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/content/2011/s3311380.htm
A new integration bill, which Dutch Interior Minister Piet Hein Donner presented to parliament on June 16, reads:

“The government shares the social dissatisfaction over the multicultural society model and plans to shift priority to the values of the Dutch people.
In the new integration system, the values of the Dutch society play a central role.”

With this change, the government steps away from the model of a multicultural society.

The letter continues: “A more obligatory integration is justified because the government also demands that from its own citizens.
It is necessary because otherwise the society gradually grows apart and eventually no one feels at home anymore in the Netherlands ..
The new integration policy will place more demands on immigrants.

For example, immigrants will be required to learn the Dutch language and the government will take a tougher approach to immigrants who ignore Dutch values or disobey Dutch law.”
The government will also stop offering special subsidies for Muslim immigrants because, according to Donner;
“It is not the government’s job to integrate immigrants.”

The government will introduce new legislation that outlaws forced marriages and will also impose tougher measures against Muslim immigrants who lower their chances of employment by the way they dress.
More specifically, the government will impose a ban on face-covering, Islamic burqas as of January 1, 2013.

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http://conservativepapers.com/news/2013 ... iQ_amQpZyX" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


This is a little old but it slipped under my radar until now.

So to tally this up, it is now Holland, France, The United Kingdom and Germany whose leaders have rejected the past policies multiculturalism which they embraced so warmly and so militantly.

Discuss - or not


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Re: Immigration and Multiculturalism

Post by mantra » Wed Dec 31, 2014 9:32 am

Rorschach wrote: noticed how mantra mentioned yet again that Multiculti is a fact of life and is here to stay.

Why mantra... ?
It's just a bloody settlement policy.
One the Nethrlands Government are getting rid of apparently.
I've changed my views a bit on multiculturalism over the last few years, but it's obvious that no party in government is going to do anything about it now. It's become firmly entrenched over the past 40 years. We've just signed an FTA with China - my area is swarming with Chinese now and they make up the largest number of over stayers here. Now the government has opened the door to them and invited them in. We're going to have a lot more to worry about than a few Muslims.

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Re: Immigration and Multiculturalism

Post by Black Orchid » Wed Dec 31, 2014 9:53 am

Apart from disliking us and buying up masses of properties which, in turn, raises housing prices the Chinese are pretty inoffensive and don't make demands like the Muslims do.

A smallish mix of different ethnicities and cultures would probably make for a working model but open slather immigration was never going to work. Beautiful old suburbs like Lindfield and Killara are now being razed to make way for medium and high density housing for the Chinese.

Forget the Australia we all grew up in it does not exist anymore.

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Re: Immigration and Multiculturalism

Post by mantra » Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:36 am

Black Orchid wrote:Apart from disliking us and buying up masses of properties which, in turn, raises housing prices the Chinese are pretty inoffensive and don't make demands like the Muslims do.

A smallish mix of different ethnicities and cultures would probably make for a working model but open slather immigration was never going to work. Beautiful old suburbs like Lindfield and Killara are now being razed to make way for medium and high density housing for the Chinese.

Forget the Australia we all grew up in it does not exist anymore.
I grew up around those beautiful suburbs and the Chinese have been monopolising much of the North Shore for the past 30 years. The same is now happening on the Central Coast. The Chinese may not be offensive in small numbers, but when they take over whole suburbs - there should be some concern. At least the Muslims appear to stay around one area.

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Re: Immigration and Multiculturalism

Post by Black Orchid » Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:58 am

The thing I find most abhorrent about the Chinese is that fact that they will toss anything and everything onto the footpath rather than have it inside the bounds of their domain. They don't care about what is outside their fence so long as it isn't inside.

Food, general refuse, furniture all ends up on the footpath. They furnish their abodes sparsely because they go back to China regularly and then just dump everything on the footpath. Rarely a week goes by when there aren't lounges, mattresses, computer desks and chairs etc littering the footpaths. Mostly it's all good furniture but no-one around here wants it and it just litters the streets until the Council sends someone to clear it. Council doesn't bother too much anymore because they have barely driven one load out of the street and another one appears.

The problem has grown exponentially over the past 10 years.

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