Islamist extremists seize hostages in central Sydney

[mellie]

Why was he legally permitted multiple identities?

He appeared in Kogarah local court under the name Mohammad Hassan Manteghi where magistrate Christine Haskett refused bail.

Perhaps he had a gun licence under one of them also.

"Perhaps" he is really an antelope. A terrorist antelope, not a fukked up muslim at all..happy now idiot

Well explain why our courts allowed him to use at least two of his aliases?

You know he had 3 right?

[mellie]

A worthwhile read.

The suspect named by the media as “Man Haron Monis” also has gone by the names “Manteghi Boroujerdi” and “Mohammad Hassan Manteghi” and was an individual now confirmed to have long been on the radar of the Australian government, media, law enforcement, and court system since his arrival on Australian shores almost two decades ago.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-shape- ... ge/5420129

The more I read about him, the more he sounds like some sort of covert ASIO operative gone wrong,lol.

[Neferti]

Well explain why our courts allowed him to use at least two of his aliases?

You know he had 3 right?

He must have had to have had a "real name" so that he could claim Welfare and a real Bank Account so the Dole could be deposited in that Bank Account. What he called himself otherwise ... who cares?

You, too, can call yourself whatever name you want. It's a bit like Forums where you register as one ID and then create a few others.

[Black Orchid]

Fake IDs aren't hard to come by and I imagine they are quite prolific out in places like Auburn/Lakemba/Bankstown etc.

[Neferti]

Fake IDs aren't hard to come by and I imagine they are quite prolific out in places like Auburn/Lakemba/Bankstown etc.

I can imagine many eyes rolling back or glazing over when a new customer says his "christian name" is Mohammed .... what comes after that would put off any kid on a desk in such an establishment, especially a Government one. Call yourself what you wish but make sure you have "papers" to apply to Centrelink and have a Bank Account. Somebody, out there, must be aiding and abetting this lot of freeloaders.

[Rorschach]

Islam's teachings are wide open to interpretation.

And you don't need to be certified or educated to be an islamic religious teacher.

You don't need to be certified or educated to be a Christian religious teacher either.

The thing is, there is no globally consistent system of appointing sheikhs in Islam – unlike in Catholicism for priests – anyone can proclaim himself a sheikh while trying to promote particular religious opinions.

This aside, it was actually our Australian Muslim community here in Australia who warned our authorities re- "Sheikh Haron" being a potential fraud back in 2008.

The Iranian government had contacted the Australian government and warned he was a violent and unstable fraud also, but we dismissed this too.

I mean, we couldn't be seen discrediting our own pro-war propaganda machine now could we, even if he was missing a few springs.

I think our government and ASIO chose to ignore their concerns because he had served as a pro-war poster child for the ABC during Howards era, despite him becoming increasingly radicalised and antisocial.

It's a multi-systemic failure here i'm afraid, and the more I delve into it the more I realise the buck doesn't stop with ASIO or our judicial system.

What if Abbott had have taken his call?

Would those hostages still be alive today?


I understand why Abbott didn't, but what if, what if he had just taken the mad-mans call?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_Haron_Monis

Its fucking obvious what would happen, he would be on the phone every living hour every muslim fluffy bunny with a chip on his shoulder, don't try and shift the blame for this to anyone other than this piece of terrorist muslim shit. You just don't get it do you.. This fukkin muslim bastard had 14000 odd likes on his facebook page for fucks sake, that's 14000 of the fluffy bunnies plus fuck knows how many more that were too lazy to show their support. The fact is as far as Islam goes it and its followers are simply bad for this country and bad for the world in general. Show me one thing , just one , that the proponents of isalm have done that has created a positive outcome for Australia.

Yes, but as mel would say they aren't Muslims they are just lunatics...

[Rorschach]

Nice Xmas Avatar Nef...

[Neferti]

Nice Xmas Avatar Nef...

Change yours to something Festive as well!

[mellie]

Roach, did I say he wasnt a Muslim?

No, what I said was that an extremist nutcase from any religious group could have gone off their rocker.



Because to my knowledge, mental illness doesnt discriminate.

[5.56 NATO]

It doesn't discriminate but it is fukken epidemic in these poofters