Global Warming

[Outlaw Yogi]

Not so long ago I mentioned that the GW/CC deniers never have a consistent argument or theory disputing GW, but continually bounce from one moonbat theory to another ad infintium.

Their latest argument regarding GW affecting or intensifying drought conditions states that OZ's worst drough in recorded history was in the 1940s. Which is quite correct.
Then they pose the question "How or why the worst drought period on record would happen in the absence of vast quantities of GHGs?" like much more recent decades,
as if WW2 never happened, or alternately, that billions of mega-tonnes of explosive ordinance/ammo and fuels combusted within a 5 year time frame was hydrocarbon free.

Then they have the hyde to complain that those comprehending climate science insinuate that sceptics/deniers are idiots.

That is the most pitiful built strawman I have ever seen.
You should be ashamed of yourself for that pathetic effort.

Why's that?

I'm just illustrating the pitiful flaws of a pathetic argument.

Gotta go .. we can do battle another time, OK?

[IQS.RLOW]

ok, but please try better than pulling "Their latest argument" out your date when it hasnt been raised here.

[Super Nova]

You need to read this...and get yourself a script of Prozac and a box of tissues.

http://catallaxyfiles.com/2014/12/16/55806/#more-55806

Ummm........ compelling arguments....... my tissue box is empty... ooops.... turned of the porn.

I am going to look into this more IQ.

I guess the fundamental point in the argument is:

1. Warming will not be too bad and certainly not as bad as predicted by some.
2. The economic impact of addressing it the wrong way will be much more that IPCC predicts with an over stated benefit that will not be realised.
3. Our technological advancement will improve the situation over time and in time.

Is that a fair summary of the position and I assume your position?

[IQS.RLOW]

A very oversimplified summation and one that I would not be prepared to give you considering the biases you have shown here and deliberate skimming over pertinent detail in an effort to build a simple platform for your own ease of refutation.

Your list needs to much longer.
You should ask yourself why it isnt...

[Super Nova]

A very oversimplified summation and one that I would not be prepared to give you considering the biases you have shown here and deliberate skimming over pertinent detail in an effort to build a simple platform for your own ease of refutation.

Your list needs to much longer.
You should ask yourself why it isnt...

Time.......

[IQS.RLOW]

You will find it will be faster to educate yourself if you open both your eyes.

[Outlaw Yogi]

ok, but please try better than pulling "Their latest argument" out your date when it hasnt been raised here.

Sorry, but No. I will address any argument on virtually any topic of my choosing, no matter what media publishes/diseminates it.

The latest argument I cited was in the letters page of The Australian.

As pretty much every topic debated/discussed here originates from a mainstream media source, I think your request is entirely unreasonable.

Besides, if we failed to mention/cite new developments on any given topic/issue/subject, PA would become so boring nobody would bother with it anymore, so get over it!

[Rorschach]

2014
Not setting any new records, not the hottest year on record...

Seems the Chicken Littles were at it again

[Black Orchid]

Rising oceans force Bangladeshi farmers inland for new jobs

About seven years ago, Gaur Mondol noticed he couldn't grow as much rice on his land as salty water seeped in from the Passur River, which stretches from his home in Bangladesh's interior all the way to the Indian Ocean.

Now the rice paddies are completely inundated, leaving the land barren. To find work, he must walk for miles each day to other villages. His annual income has fallen by half to 36,000 taka ($569). He makes about $5 a day if he's lucky, and most of that goes to buy food for his family of four.

"I'm always worried that my house will be washed away someday," Mondol said from his home in Mongla sub-district, pointing to a river-side tamarind tree with water swirling around its exposed roots. "My family is constantly under threat as the river creeps in."

Rising sea levels are one of the biggest threats to the $185 billion economy over the next half a century, with farmers like Mondol already facing the consequences. Bangladesh, which needs to grow at 8 per cent pace to pull people out of poverty, stands to lose about 2 per cent of gross domestic product each year by 2050, according to the Asian Development Bank.

"The sea-level rise and extreme climate events are the two ways that salinity intrudes into the freshwater system," Mahfuzuddin Ahmed, an adviser in the ADB's regional and sustainable development department, said by phone from Manila. "The implication for food security is quite big."

Bangladesh is one of the world's most densely populated countries, with half the U.S. population crammed into an area the size of New York state. About 50 percent of its citizens are directly dependent on agriculture for their livelihoods, a quarter live in the coastal zone, and 21 percent of these lands are affected by an excess of salinity.

The proportion of arable land has fallen 7.3 per cent between 2000-2010, faster than South Asia's 2 per cent decline, with geography playing a large role.

Bangladesh is nestled at a point where tidal waves from the Indian Ocean flow into the Bay of Bengal. While these create the Sundarbans mangroves, home to the endangered Bengal tiger, winds and currents cause saline water to mix with upstream rivers.

Global weather changes worsen this. Bangladesh's average peak-summer temperature in May has climbed to 28.1 degrees Celsius (83 Fahrenheit) in 1990-2009 from 26.9 in 1900-1930, and could rise to 31.5 degrees in 2080-2099, World Bank data show. Average June rainfall has dropped to 467.1 millimeter from 517.5 in that time.

More at http://www.smh.com.au/environment/clima ... 2e9kr.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Rorschach]

Bangladesh is mostly a floodplain. It has it's own GEOLOGICAL problems if it was to ever be viable and provide a long term sustainable human habitable environment you'd need the Dutch to go there and fix their problems. Poverty, poor government, low education and over population exacerbates their problems.

Bangladesh, with its paltry carbon footprint of 0.3 tonnes per person, is a case in point. It’s often described as the ground zero of climate change. Flat, populous and poor, it’s home to 160 million people squeezed into a country half the size of Iowa. Needless to say, its problems did not begin with global warming. Slap bang in the middle of Asia’s largest river delta, three mighty rivers – the Ganges, Brahmaputra and the Meghna – surge through it into the Indian Ocean, splitting into hundreds of tributaries along the way. Studying a map of the country I will spend two weeks exploring, it looks as if a toddler has been let loose with a blue pen. This tangle of rivers burst their banks every monsoon – in a good year, a fifth of the country is flooded.

Human interventions have made matters worse. Indian dams have disrupted fresh water flows, allowing saline tides to penetrate further inland. Embankments planned to protect farmland have ended up waterlogging large areas, by blocking drainage.

- See more at: http://newint.org/features/2012/04/01/c ... bEhPh.dpuf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;