Islamist extremists seize hostages in central Sydney

[mellie]

Nato, the man was mentally ill and slipped through the holes in our system.

Moderate muslims sympathies lie with the victims, not this lunatic who should never have made bail to begin with.

We need to pull together and remember, this disturbed individual was driven by notoriety and mental angst, not ideology or race.

Recall the port Arthur massacre?

Another individual who slipped stealthily and deadly through the holes in our system.

This was not a terrorist attack, it's the actions of a lone unstable mind.

[mellie]

Boxy, after the first round of hostages escaped and alerted authorities to there only being a single gunman, they could have taken him out then.

They had plenty of opportunities... but as Nato said... could political correctness "leftism" clouded their judgment?

Furthermore, he should never have been granted bail in order to be in this position of power to begin with. More PC leftism?

But you tell this to Katrina Dawsons three little kids.

I'm sure they'll understand.

[boxy]

Any idea about the problems that shooting through glass poses, Mellie? The clearest "shot" of him, I saw, was through the front doors of the cafe too, which would be very thick glass (sliding doors). We just don't know if they had an opportunity to do it safely.

[mellie]

Any idea about the problems that shooting through glass poses, Mellie? The clearest "shot" of him, I saw, was through the front doors of the cafe too, which would be very thick glass (sliding doors). We just don't know if they had an opportunity to do it safely.

Believe me Boxy, there will be a critical enquiry into what could have been done better.

In the mean time, we need to start asking the tough questions ie, what the hell was he doing out on bail to begin with.

And boxy, they should have brought in snipers to penetrate the glass.

If deflection is a concern, two snipers can fire. One shoots to break the glass, the other shoots to kill.

[IQS.RLOW]

Any idea about the problems that shooting through glass poses, Mellie? The clearest "shot" of him, I saw, was through the front doors of the cafe too, which would be very thick glass (sliding doors). We just don't know if they had an opportunity to do it safely.

Muslim apologist.

[boxy]

Yeah, yeah.

Anyone not running around like a headless chook, screaming like a little girl, is a muslim apologist

[mellie]

This isnt a Muslim issue, it's a nut-case issue.

Nutcases come from all walks of life.

[IQS.RLOW]

Yeah, yeah.

Anyone not running around like a headless chook, screaming like a little girl, is a muslim apologist

You didn't notice just a hint of sarcasm?

It wasnt one of your usual apologist rants that you make excuses for everything out of anything so I decided to respond in kind.

[5.56 NATO]

Nato, the man was mentally ill and slipped through the holes in our system.

Moderate muslims sympathies lie with the victims, not this lunatic who should never have made bail to begin with.

We need to pull together and remember, this disturbed individual was driven by notoriety and mental angst, not ideology or race.

Recall the port Arthur massacre?

Another individual who slipped stealthily and deadly through the holes in our system.

This was not a terrorist attack, it's the actions of a lone unstable mind.

Using this logic would defend every terrorist who ever walked as being mentally ill, he was no more mentally ill then your everyday mulim who believes in this toxic excuse for a religion. The only hole he slipped through was opened without hesitation by the esteemed member of the judicial system who allowed him back on the street and is at the very least an accessory to murder.

[boxy]

And boxy, they should have brought in snipers to penetrate the glass.

If deflection is a concern, two snipers can fire. One shoots to break the glass, the other shoots to kill.

You should totally offer them your help, thinking of these things, next time, Mellie. They obviously have no idea