Policy concerns for the next election.

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Personally I've never met anyone or known anyone who just votes with their hip pocket.
It would be a truly sad state of affairs if it was the norm.

Early to discuss policy concerns? Nope.

I find all of the abovementioned policies unpalatable and no I don't vote with my hip pocket. These policies are a step too far in an economy which isn't doing well. The PPL is going to cost approx. $6 billion pa and consumers will be paying for that. The GST is already high enough and even if it is only made broad based - that's going to affect all those people who opt for fresh food over processed food. Fresh food is affordable at the moment - processed not so much. The farmers will ultimately lose too with even more competition. People will buy cheap, filling processed food over fruit and vegetables when a GST is applied to them.

Tax reform/GST etc will be at the next election if Tony sticks to his promise b4 the last election.
PPL is an issue that is ongoing and is likely to be an issue at the next election, either as an ongoing sore or a broken promise.
UNI Fees will be an issue if they deregulate.
These things are all on the agenda now.

Of course they will be on the agenda at the next election and they aren't popular, but the electorate wants a strong leader and of course turning back the boats and fighting ISIS is why Abbott's ratings have improved. There is still not enough attention being paid to domestic politics - just a blanket reform being thrown over everything. Labor hasn't got a decent leader at the moment.

As for Abbott I never mentioned him or voting for him, I guess you were referring to mantra... it's always personal with her.

That is a lie and you know it. I've always disliked the Coalition policies, particularly over the last couple of decades. I've always discussed why I don't like their policies, which is more than can be said for any RW who usually doesn't have a clue why they vote conservative. The war on terror and the divisiveness of their policies has ultimately not done this country any good. Labor aren't much better, but they are less threatening.

As far as Neferti's comments go - I've always wondered why she posts on political forums unless it's specifically to disrupt a thread with an irrelevant comment.

[Rorschach]

I don't know why LW Progs persist with this lie.

I find all of the abovementioned policies unpalatable and no I don't vote with my hip pocket. These policies are a step too far in an economy which isn't doing well. The PPL is going to cost approx. $6 billion pa and consumers will be paying for that.

The PPL is paid for by a company levy on larger companies. Originally it was to be offset by a lowering of the company tax.

The GST is already high enough and even if it is only made broad based

Not sure what you mean by that mantra. The broader the base the more tax we pay.

I do agree the rate is high enough and I do agree that a GST on food will make it even less affordable for the poor. And yes, possibly the quality of what they can afford to buy will be much worse. BTW food fresh or otherwise is not cheap at the moment.

Of course they will be on the agenda at the next election and they aren't popular, but the electorate wants a strong leader and of course turning back the boats and fighting ISIS is why Abbott's ratings have improved. There is still not enough attention being paid to domestic politics - just a blanket reform being thrown over everything. Labor hasn't got a decent leader at the moment.

There you go, being personal and hateful again. before the last election the government promised a white paper on tax reform, and promised no major changes until the next election. You could also say, more correctly that the government has been successful on border protection and a responsible global citizen re ISIS. That is much more reflective of reality.

That is a lie and you know it. I've always disliked the Coalition policies, particularly over the last couple of decades. I've always discussed why I don't like their policies, which is more than can be said for any RW who usually doesn't have a clue why they vote conservative. The war on terror and the divisiveness of their policies has ultimately not done this country any good. Labor aren't much better, but they are less threatening.

No it is not... your personal and political bias colours your opinions and you get personal about it all. As for always disliking Coalition policies... how is that just not blatant mindless bias from a rusted-on? As for your opinion of RW posters... more hubris doesn't help your argument. You almost always exaggerate things. Personally I would much rather be CONSERVATIVE than Progressive, because it follows this truism... "“If a man is not a socialist by the time he is 20, he has no heart. If he is not a conservative by the time he is 40, he has no brain.”

Your last sentence is just rubbish.

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I don't know why LW Progs persist with this lie.

I find all of the abovementioned policies unpalatable and no I don't vote with my hip pocket. These policies are a step too far in an economy which isn't doing well. The PPL is going to cost approx. $6 billion pa and consumers will be paying for that.

The PPL is paid for by a company levy on larger companies. Originally it was to be offset by a lowering of the company tax.

Use your brain occasionally. Do you think they're going to make the shareholders pay for it or maybe take it out of the CEO's pay? Have you thought that they might pass the costs onto the consumer?

The GST is already high enough and even if it is only made broad based

Not sure what you mean by that mantra. The broader the base the more tax we pay.

That's exactly what I said. At least quote me correctly.

The GST is already high enough and even if it is only made broad based - that's going to affect all those people who opt for fresh food over processed food.

I do agree the rate is high enough and I do agree that a GST on food will make it even less affordable for the poor. And yes, possibly the quality of what they can afford to buy will be much worse. BTW food fresh or otherwise is not cheap at the moment.

Of course they will be on the agenda at the next election and they aren't popular, but the electorate wants a strong leader and of course turning back the boats and fighting ISIS is why Abbott's ratings have improved. There is still not enough attention being paid to domestic politics - just a blanket reform being thrown over everything. Labor hasn't got a decent leader at the moment.

There you go, being personal and hateful again. before the last election the government promised a white paper on tax reform, and promised no major changes until the next election. You could also say, more correctly that the government has been successful on border protection and a responsible global citizen re ISIS. That is much more reflective of reality.

That is a lie and you know it. I've always disliked the Coalition policies, particularly over the last couple of decades. I've always discussed why I don't like their policies, which is more than can be said for any RW who usually doesn't have a clue why they vote conservative. The war on terror and the divisiveness of their policies has ultimately not done this country any good. Labor aren't much better, but they are less threatening.

No it is not... your personal and political bias colours your opinions and you get personal about it all. As for always disliking Coalition policies... how is that just not blatant mindless bias from a rusted-on? As for your opinion of RW posters... more hubris doesn't help your argument. You almost always exaggerate things. Personally I would much rather be CONSERVATIVE than Progressive, because it follows this truism... "“If a man is not a socialist by the time he is 20, he has no heart. If he is not a conservative by the time he is 40, he has no brain.”

Your last sentence is just rubbish.

It's no surprise people on political forums get so angry with you. Here you go constantly telling me to stop being personal about politicians when I talk about their policies, but you rarely attack the argument, only the poster. YOU MAKE IT PERSONAL WITH YOUR INCESSANT PERSONAL INSULTS.

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Use your brain occasionally. Do you think they're going to make the shareholders pay for it or maybe take it out of the CEO's pay? Have you thought that they might pass the costs onto the consumer?

I use it all the time thanks. Did you not read everything I wrote? Are you unaware of the original deal. Yes they might pass on the costs and then again they might not.

That's exactly what I said. At least quote me correctly.

I did quote you correctly the first part made no sense... would you like me to quote you again? Perhaps you should have just said...
The GST is already high enough, even if they only broaden it more, that's going to affect all those people who opt for fresh food over processed food.

It's no surprise people on political forums get so angry with you. Here you go constantly telling me to stop being personal about politicians when I talk about their policies, but you rarely attack the argument, only the poster. YOU MAKE IT PERSONAL WITH YOUR INCESSANT PERSONAL INSULTS.

So where were my personal insults mantra? That's right they only exist in your mind... you think it's ok to personally attack Abbott or Howard or whoever leads the Coalition, at every turn. Now you're attacking me. As for me attacking the poster and not the argument... now that is a big lie mantra... and if your argument is just personal abuse, I'll point it out. Over and over again. And if you post rubbish expect it to be called rubbish.

[Black Orchid]

Most people vote with their hip pocket and care less about Policies, unless it affects them, personally.

Most people I know vote for overall policies as opposed to their hip pocket. Do you mean "couldn't care less"?

Isn't it a little premature to start talking about policies for the Federal Election in 2016?

Why?

I do NOT vote for Tony Abbott. Nor do you unless you live in his Electorate.

Really? Who woulda thunked

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Well the ABC who has a great deal more media interests and outlets in Australia than rupert Murdoch has been beating up their piddling funding cuts with crocodile tears and non-stop belly-aching thinly disguised as reporting.

Asked about his pre-election promise that there would be “no cuts to the ABC”, Abbott said “I accept what we are doing with the ABC is at odds with what I said immediately prior to the election but things have moved on, circumstances are different. Going into that election, the then government was telling us the deficit for that year would be $18bn, it turned out to be $48 billion. I think sensible governments are not only entitled but, indeed, expected to change when the circumstances change.”

Pity Abbott just didn't say that from day one... Credlin needs a kick up the behind. I hear he has appointed a new head to his office... good luck with that if Credlin keeps making political missteps and holding sway.