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Re: Newborn Baby Found in Sydney Drain

Post by Super Nova » Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:28 am

AiA in Atlanta wrote:
Super Nova wrote:
AiA in Atlanta wrote:unwanted children have a higher propensity to end up in jail.
Let's hope this one gets a foster home and never sees the parents again.

That kid better get used to a life behind bars.
I don't believe that in this case.

However would be interested in your source for this stat.

However I did a search and found this.
75% foster children end up in jail?


Our local news ran an interview on their "Gift of Love" with an attorney representing one of the FLDS children. I was upset and questioning his quote:

"I don't know what's going to happen in this case but I hope that the children are reunited with their mothers because 75% of children placed in foster care end up either in jail or on the streets and that's a disturbing statistic."

Is this at all accurate? Shouldn't he have elaborated? Which children, those who return back to abusive parents, those who age out of the system? I can not see this being a fact for those children adopted into loving homes. I have had someone come up to me quoting this from the story, as if "do you know what you are in for?" For a feature on a news channel that is suppose to be helping these children, I can not see how that interview helped.

I did email the station several days ago about my concerns, but have gotten no response. Here is a link to the interview done last Wednesday. KLTV 7 News Tyler, Longview, Jacksonville |Gift of Love: Tyler Attorney Represents Polygamist Girl
Where the adoption agency was questioning this statement.

Link here: http://forums.adoption.com/foster-paren ... -jail.html

So an attorney representing one of the FLDS children said it. Mmmmmm if true... very disturbing.
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Re: Newborn Baby Found in Sydney Drain

Post by AiA in Atlanta » Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:03 am

the Freakanomics economists detailed the data around abortion, unwanted children and crime in their book of the same name. American politicians some years back began taking credit for the dramatic drop in crime rates in large US cities. These economists said not so fast. And what they found was astounding.

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Re: Newborn Baby Found in Sydney Drain

Post by Black Orchid » Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:04 pm

The 'mother' has been allowed to name the baby. Unbelievable. As if the poor kid would want to be encumbered with a name given to him by her.

There have been lots of enquiries to adopt the little boy so I hope the authorities do choose that route instead of fostering him out and forgetting about him.

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Re: Newborn Baby Found in Sydney Drain

Post by Neferti » Wed Nov 26, 2014 4:45 pm

Is the baby OK?

I read somewhere that the Mother is Samoan (?) and her parents are in The Ministry in Samoa (?)... she obviously was too afraid to tell anybody but that is NOT an excuse to "dispose" of a newborn in such a fashion. There are married couples out there crying out to adopt a newborn. She, apparently, had the baby in Hospital ... perhaps she has poor English?

Anyway, I think she needs proper care rather than the law getting involved. Try and put yourself in the same situation ...... if she can't care for the baby, let somebody else do it. They found her, at least, and rather quickly as well.

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Re: Newborn Baby Found in Sydney Drain

Post by Black Orchid » Wed Nov 26, 2014 4:59 pm

Neferti~ wrote:Is the baby OK?
Yesterday I read it was doing ok.
Neferti~ wrote:I read somewhere that the Mother is Samoan (?) and her parents are in The Ministry in Samoa (?)... she obviously was too afraid to tell anybody but that is NOT an excuse to "dispose" of a newborn in such a fashion. There are married couples out there crying out to adopt a newborn. She, apparently, had the baby in Hospital ... perhaps she has poor English?
I believe their English is fine (she lives with relatives) but what she did certainly crosses any language barriers anyway. She could have easily just left the hospital herself and left the baby there.
Neferti~ wrote:Anyway, I think she needs proper care rather than the law getting involved. Try and put yourself in the same situation ...... if she can't care for the baby, let somebody else do it. They found her, at least, and rather quickly as well.
Sorry I cannot even attempt to understand what she did and I hope she is prosecuted to the full extent and is made to pay for her crime. A dozen things she could have done rather than walking along a remote part of a freeway and poking it down a crack in a concrete drain. I can assure you that if I was in her situation (whatever that is) I would NOT have done that.

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Re: Newborn Baby Found in Sydney Drain

Post by Neferti » Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:24 pm

Don't get angry with me Black Orchid. I was just offering an opinion and, of course, I despise anyone who does anything to children, except take care of them.

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Re: Newborn Baby Found in Sydney Drain

Post by Black Orchid » Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:29 pm

I am not the least bit angry. What part do you think is angry? The part where I cannot put myself in her situation?

Just can't, sorry. Nothing angry about it though 8-)

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Re: Newborn Baby Found in Sydney Drain

Post by mantra » Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:07 am

The mother may very well fall back on her culture as a defence, although I thought the Samoans nurtured their babies, unlike some of the Asian countries where the babies are just dumped in a field somewhere or thrown in a river.

When people come to Australia they come here for a better life. A mother's natural instincts are to protect her baby regardless of whether she's in a position to keep it or not. There is no excuse in a country such as ours for a baby to be discarded this way.

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