Global Warming

[Rorschach]

I am embarrassed for you Roach. You seem not to understand even the meaning of words such as "agriculture" ...

It isn't a secret that agriculture has raised the Earth's temperature. Agriculture includes the cultivation of crops, deforestation, and raising livestock.

Really, yet the only person here who would agree with your attempted ridicule is Soannoyed.
Don't play silly buggers with me ok.
BTW the raising of the temperature since the last Ice Age allowed agriculture... FFS

[IQS.RLOW]

I am embarrassed for you Roach. You seem not to understand even the meaning of words such as "agriculture" ...

It isn't a secret that agriculture has raised the Earth's temperature. Agriculture includes the cultivation of crops, deforestation, and raising livestock.

I'm embarrassed for you AiA. You seem not to understand even the meaning of words such as "correlation" and "causation" and "sensitivity"

[Super Nova]

BTW the raising of the temperature since the last Ice Age allowed agriculture... FFS

At least in Europe and north America.

Exactly. Most of the current land mass that is most populated would be rendered impossible to sustain the current levels of human population if the Atlantic gulf stream stopped. Warming would then lead to an ice age in the northern hemisphere.

Gets complex doesn't it.

Do you both understand the science.

[IQS.RLOW]

There is no evidence that the Gulf Stream will stop.

Why do you ignore the science?

[Rorschach]

BTW the raising of the temperature since the last Ice Age allowed agriculture... FFS

At least in Europe and north America.

Exactly. Most of the current land mass that is most populated would be rendered impossible to sustain the current levels of human population if the Atlantic gulf stream stopped. Warming would then lead to an ice age in the northern hemisphere.

Gets complex doesn't it.

Do you both understand the science.

Apparently I understand the science better than both of you.
I also understand that when the planet was almost a total greenhouse, plantilfe covered many of the areas AiA thinks had no plantlife apparently...

Oh and SN if the gulf stream stops causing and ice age... guess what? We weren't the cause of it last time. it's called NATURE! Now there's complex for you

[Super Nova]

Apparently I understand the science better than both of you.
I also understand that when the planet was almost a total greenhouse, plantilfe covered many of the areas AiA thinks had no plantlife apparently...

Yes and the O2 was so high that insects could be huge and it allowed animals to grow very large.. So what. It took a long time for the earth to achieve the current balance that is suitable for us and our fellow animals and plants and bacteria ...etc.

Oh and SN if the gulf stream stops causing and ice age... guess what? We weren't the cause of it last time. it's called NATURE! Now there's complex for you

Yes but this time we could cause it. What a disaster it will be.

Your entrenched position of the issues and your continual references to it happened before are irrelevant. What history shows us is the impact of us triggering an event that will have global impacts.... all of them to our disadvantage.

[Super Nova]

Also,

Are you the sort of person that subscribes to not immunising kids because it is up to nature if our kids live or not.

Of course you are not.

Where we create the problem... we should de-risk it. Where nature takes a turn that is not in our interest... we should consider taking action. After all, our key advantage over all animals is we change our environment. Now we need to extend this with planet widen environment change management.

[IQS.RLOW]

an event that will have global impacts.... all of them to our disadvantage.

Why do you lie?

[Rorschach]

Also,

Are you the sort of person that subscribes to not immunising kids because it is up to nature if our kids live or not.

Of course you are not.

Where we create the problem... we should de-risk it. Where nature takes a turn that is not in our interest... we should consider taking action. After all, our key advantage over all animals is we change our environment. Now we need to extend this with planet widen environment change management.

If you want to ridicule, slander, malign, vilify or practice character assassination on someone... try it on someone else.
As for changing the environment global or otherwise... you are against that... now that's being hypocritical.

My entrenched position is that climate change is mostly a natural phenomenon and the only way we will escape the more dangerous extremes of it will be by technological adaptation... what's your chicken little?

[Super Nova]

If you want to ridicule, slander, malign, vilify or practice character assassination on someone... try it on someone else.
As for changing the environment global or otherwise... you are against that... now that's being hypocritical.

I am not attacking anyone. I didn't think so anyway. Don't be over sensitive. You have been here long enough to know when I am attacking you personally. I am playing the ball (topic/issue) not you even though playing the ball may be causing me to challenge you.

My entrenched position is that climate change is mostly a natural phenomenon and the only way we will escape the more dangerous extremes of it will be by technological adaptation... what's your chicken little?

Well that's where we differ.

It is mostly due to our contribution and the natural phenomenon of soaking up the energy for the moment will reach a tipping point.

We will need to adapt as you say because it's going to happen because we did f..all about preventing it.

We should reduce the risk
Prepare to adapt.

Adaption alone is not enough.