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Australia - the cost of living...

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Rising price of living in Australia
Date April 27, 2013
Ruth Williams

Australia might be known as the lucky country, but you need to have plenty of money to actually enjoy it.

When mental health researcher Laura Dainton Smith, 28, moved back to Australia last year after 12 months in the US, she was jolted by the prices of daily essentials like clothes and food.

It wasn't so much that the prices in Australia had gone up much in the year she and partner Will spent living in Providence, Massachusetts. It was more that they'd become used to the cheaper US prices - and paying so much extra for the same items hurt.

"Clothes, food, alcohol, make-up, it's often half the price over there,'' Dainton Smith says. ''We have to plan and budget a lot more carefully to be able to have the things that we could take for granted in the US.''

This week, a Deutsche Bank report illustrated what many suspect - whether catching public transport, ordering a beer or buying medicine to battle a cold, Australians pay among the highest prices on the planet.

The report, which tracks the prices of an array of goods and services in cities and countries around the world, found that Melburnians and Sydneysiders pay almost 40 per cent more for movie tickets than Manhattanites and Parisians, for example, with cinephiles in Wellington and London paying only slightly more.

Pick up a two-litre bottle of Coke at a supermarket in Melbourne or Sydney and you'll pay almost 50 per cent more for the sugar and caffeine concoction than in Berlin or Auckland. Planning on ordering mum a bunch of roses for Mother's Day? That will cost you about $US139 ($134), more than in any of 16 other countries tracked by the survey.

The Deutsche report uses prices in New York as a baseline, and converts all prices to $US. It echoes the findings of the Economist Intelligence Unit's annual Worldwide Cost of Living survey, which ranked Sydney and Melbourne as the third- and equal-fourth most expensive cities in the world to live.

Ten years ago, not a single Australian city was in the top 10.

It's a stark demonstration that - eight years since the mining boom took off, and more than two years since the Aussie dollar breached parity with the greenback - Australia has become one of the most expensive places in the world to live.

Or, in the words of Choice chief executive Alan Kirkland, it ''shines a bright light on how much we are being fleeced''.

Ask why Australians pay so much more and the answers vary depending on the item - and the person answering the question. For example, Australia's high taxes on tobacco help explain why a cigarette in Australia costs more than in 27 other countries - $US17.22 for a pack of Marlboro compared with $US1.10 in Manila, Deutsche says.

The cost of a pint of beer in Australia is the third-highest among 17 countries. According to the Australian Hotels Association, taxes make up about about 20 per cent of the cost of a beer served in a pub.

But while alcohol and tobacco attract higher taxes, Australia has low import tariffs compared with Europe and the US, making it ''hard to know'' why imported goods are so much more expensive, says economist Stephen Koukoulas.

Koukoulas, managing director of Market Economics, suspects that the cost of transporting items to Australia and around this vast continent may still be a factor in price differences.

But Choice believes that many companies charge more for products in Australia simply because they can. ''It is about marketers deciding what is the highest price they can charge,'' Kirkland says.

''Australians have historically paid more for a whole range of goods … but in many cases when you put it to the test the increased cost of selling in Australia just didn't hold up any more.''

According to the Deutsche Bank report, Australians pay 26 per cent more for an iPhone than US consumers, and 13 per cent more for an Apple Macbook. Choice has been campaigning against price discrimination in IT products and services, the subject of a parliamentary inquiry in Canberra.

But the good news is that even if they pay more, Australians are paying less than they used to for imported items such as clothing, shoes and cars.

Australia is now the equal-third cheapest of 17 countries in which to buy a pair of adidas sports shoes, Deutsche Bank found, with the price having dropped by more than $US5 in 12 months. A pair of Levi's jeans bought in Melbourne may still be almost double the price of the same pair bought in New York, but they are still cheaper than in Paris, Hong Kong and London.

The high dollar has increased Australians' purchasing power, and competition from online shopping has helped force down prices of products such as make-up and clothes.

This week's Consumer Price Index data found that the prices of tradeable goods - such as pharmaceuticals, vegetables and tobacco - fell by 1.2 per cent in the March quarter.

But the figures also showed that the cost of non-tradeables like restaurant meals, shoe repairs or education rose 1.3 per cent. The Deutsche research confirms that many things that cost a lot more in Australia - such as hotel rooms, a flower delivery or a beer in a pub - involve labour, reflecting Australia's high wages.

Chris Morris, whose Colonial Leisure Group owns a portfolio of Australian pubs and restaurants and a conference and wedding venue in Dorset, England, says labour costs are a big factor in inflating the price of a beer. He warns of the impact of penalty rates and high wages on the competitiveness of Australia's tourism and hospitality industries, which struggle to convince Australians to spend their mighty Aussie dollars at home.

''People come here and say, 'What? Ten dollars for a pint of beer! It's three quid in the UK','' says Morris, who estimates that Australian labour would cost, on average, three times more than in Britain.

But the higher wages mean that, in many cases, Australians can actually afford to pay the higher prices, Koukoulas says.

Wages in Australia are about 50 per cent higher than in the US or New Zealand, and average weekly earnings have risen roughly 3.5 per cent a year for the past five years. Australian wages have outstripped inflation for more than a decade.

''[It costs more here] to pay a person to sit in a retail shop or to operate a website or to distribute an item. It is not necessarily a bad thing but a high income, high cost country shows up in the prices that we pay,'' Koukoulas says.

''If you want to pay the same as what Americans are paying, then accept American wages. You can't have the low prices without the low incomes.''

Saul Eslake, chief economist at Bank of America Merrill Lynch Australia, says the Deutsche report would have been more useful had it compared prices of items as a proportion of earnings in each country. This would show how affordable or expensive each item was for a person earning the local currency.

But he says the Deutsche report - and others like it - should serve as a reminder of the challenges facing the Australian economy, including how it will compete against lower-cost countries.

Australia may have high wages, ''but that doesn't lead me to say that the answer is to cut wages,'' Eslake says. ''If this relatively high wage structure is to be sustained, without adverse consequences for employment, then we need to boost productivity.''


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Re: Australia - the cost of living...

Post by Neferti » Tue Nov 11, 2014 7:40 pm

Let's begin here ........ (perhaps Mods can transfer stuff to this thead?)


http://www.ozpolitic.com/polanimal/view ... 7&start=30

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Re: Australia - the cost of living...

Post by Rorschach » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:30 am

Well we can thank the greens and labor for a huge increase in the cost of living over that last decade with their climate scaremongering and policies geared to address it.
Power up, cost of producing power up... even though we are using less power because we cannot afford to use it we are still paying more for it. Well done GALP.
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Post by Neferti » Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:47 pm

To be honest, I haven't really noticed that the cost of living has increased all that much in recent years. I rarely look at the prices of grocery items, for example, if I need "x" I put it in the trolly. Ditto with clothing and footwear. I see something and I buy it without worrying about the cost, I worry more about the quality of an item. I was brought up to measure a "good buy" by the amount of times you wear an article. For example, a pair of shoes that cost $20 and you wear them twice is a bad buy, a pair of shoes you spend $120 on and wear them 100 times is a good buy. Same goes for clothing. I have bought some duds in the past but mostly I get my "money's worth".

There's an article today about the Cost of Living and how much people are "struggling". I would suggest that some people are living way ABOVE their means, I think they think they are so-called Middle Income/Class when, in fact, they are NOT.

http://www.news.com.au/finance/money/ne ... 7121241134

You do NOT need a 4 bedroom house, 3 bathrooms, double garage and swimming pool ... plus the HUGE mortgage, nor the new car, furniture, clothes and shoes. People have to sort out their needs and their wants. There IS a difference between what one needs and what one wants!

I was taught that you looked at your INCOME and divided it into 3 .... one third for housing, one third for "living" (including utilities, clothing, food, etc) and one third to put away for a rainy day. IF you are spending more than a third of your income on housing, you need to realise that you are considering yourself ABOVE your station! Oh, and those "in Sydney" ....... move elsewhere where it is cheaper to buy, get a job that you deserve (not what you think you deserve).

EVERYBODY in Australia considers themselves Middle Class. Nobody owns up to being Working Class any more and next to nobody is Rich, who owns everything and still lives within their means and actually saves money ..... except myself. :rofl

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Re: Australia - the cost of living...

Post by Rorschach » Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:22 pm

I think it is true when you are living on very little or below the poverty line like those on Newstart you really start to notice the differences. :D
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Re: Australia - the cost of living...

Post by Black Orchid » Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:23 am

Young people should not HAVE to move out of Sydney or Melbourne just to purchase a cheap house.

Obviously housing is much cheaper in areas that support smaller communities and/or places that most people would not want to live anyway. Hmmmm I wonder why that is? Perhaps there just aren't the same opportunities for work and/or advancement in these areas?

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Post by Neferti » Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:03 pm

There are lots of properties for sale under $400,000 in Sydney if you have a look. http://www.realestate.com.au/buy No doubt there are plenty under that price in Melbourne, Brisbane, etc as well. No need to move out of Sydney at all, they may not be in your "preferred" suburb though. ;)

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Re: Australia - the cost of living...

Post by Black Orchid » Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:32 pm

What is that link supposed to be?

Perhaps you can re-link to or list these abundant properties that are for sale in Sydney and also where an English speaking non bogan might actually want to safely live and raise a family and where they don't have to spend 4 hours per day travelling to work and back?

I am not talking studio 1 room apartments. One would expect to find some of these under 400k.

I honestly don't understand your attitude.
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Re: Australia - the cost of living...

Post by Rorschach » Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:36 pm

And to get a loan from banks for a $400,000 property you'd have to have saved 10% for a deposit.
What is your point nef.
That lots of people have a spare $40,000?
The average price for a home in the Sydney metrop now is over $1,000,000.
That's a $100,000 deposit.
Most homes under $400,000 will not be 3 bedders or have more than 1 car space if any, they also will not be near an urban centre. Most will be regional. many in poor condition.

Of the 33,525... 3 bedders with a single garage... 15,029 were $400,000 or less, in NSW. Mostly regional. Good luck getting a job in regional NSW.
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Re: Australia - the cost of living...

Post by Black Orchid » Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:42 pm

Many lenders now want 20% for a home deposit and with rents being so high in Sydney it puts a strain on all young people trying to get ahead and start out.

Stupid people, I guess they should move away from family and work to places like Tinbuktu or Canberra? :roll

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