Pathway to a Caliphate

[AnaTom]

Discus why the present trouble in the ME is not affecting Israel greatly. Why Israels previous wars of independence have mainly involved the Palestinians, and others. Why even though the Arab world calls for the destruction of Israel it seems to exclude any actual fighting.

Perhaps what is going on is that the present upheaval is about the unification of the feuding Sunni and Shia, rather than anything else. Even though the western media sees it as a regional problem. It makes little sense in this context.

In western democracies there is a fundamental legal pillar that is used to ruthlessly crush certain types of dissent. Even though there is freedom of speech in mild form, there is regular use of this pillar against western interests, freedom of speech. It is this pillar that that will fail us, and the falling ceiling will flatten us with a caliphate.

Why else during the recent high profile killings by ISIL did both our houses seek to lecture and chastise us about any thoughts or attempts by the public to vilify the Mulims in our defence. The strong language used to counter any perceived bigotry, racism or trouble was poignant. Silenced we were.

How curious. Are we to think that only the government knows best in the matter, and that we in the west are more of a problem than a victim. Afterall it has been many years since 9/11, and still the Muslim jihadist problem grows. The terrorist threat grows. The jihadist effort is successful in bringing terror to every doorstep and livingroom in the west.

How can this still be happening?

It is clear that the caliphatist jihadist agenda is virulent, powerful and focused, but how? And why?

[Rorschach]

Discus why the present trouble in the ME is not affecting Israel greatly.

Because it is an internal Arab conflict.

Why Israels previous wars of independence have mainly involved the Palestinians, and others.

There are no palestinians, Israelis are as much palestinians as the so-called Palestinians. Your point is incorrect... all Arab nations surrounding Israel have been in conflict with it.

Why even though the Arab world calls for the destruction of Israel it seems to exclude any actual fighting.

Because Israel whipped their arses the last time they declared war on it. Israel is still being attacked by Arabs though.

Perhaps what is going on is that the present upheaval is about the unification of the feuding Sunni and Shia, rather than anything else. Even though the western media sees it as a regional problem. It makes little sense in this context

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Many things Arab Muslims do, don't make much sense. Islam is at war with the rest of the world and internally.

In western democracies there is a fundamental legal pillar that is used to ruthlessly crush certain types of dissent. Even though there is freedom of speech in mild form, there is regular use of this pillar against western interests, freedom of speech. It is this pillar that that will fail us, and the falling ceiling will flatten us with a caliphate.

Why else during the recent high profile killings by ISIL did both our houses seek to lecture and chastise us about any thoughts or attempts by the public to vilify the Mulims in our defence. The strong language used to counter any perceived bigotry, racism or trouble was poignant. Silenced we were.

1/ they are trying to support/shore-up Multiculti, both major parties and the Greens support it.
2/ they are trying to stave off social disharmony along religious lines even though they are dumb enough to call it racial. Islam is NOT a race.
3/ they are far too PC
4 LW Progressivism holds the upper hand particularly in the media.

How curious. Are we to think that only the government knows best in the matter, and that we in the west are more of a problem than a victim. Afterall it has been many years since 9/11, and still the Muslim jihadist problem grows. The terrorist threat grows. The jihadist effort is successful in bringing terror to every doorstep and livingroom in the west.

How can this still be happening?

It is clear that the caliphatist jihadist agenda is virulent, powerful and focused, but how? And why?

How? Why?
1/ it isn't on my doorstep, but it is growing because most major governments allow it to,
2/ because we don't play by the same rules.
3/ Because there are may religious fanatics and barbarians in the world who follow the death cult and they see us as weak.

[Rorschach]

Abdullah Elmir.... DICKHEAD!!!

They ask how can a "normal" "Australian" teenager become a jihadist?
The answer is one cannot...

The question should be what are his family's beliefs, how have they behaved and what have they taught him how was he brought up what were his beliefs?

Multiculti has a lot to answer for.

Some honest answers to that might be welcome.

[AnaTom]

Many things Arab Muslims do, don't make much sense. Islam is at war with the rest of the world and internally.

Thanks for a thorough response Rosarch. It is true that Israel still has to fight. I wasn't clear on that point. I have included a video which encompasses a description of the 'Arab' world. It sort of helps to lead to where i am thinking. I hope I can be clear about it.

[AnaTom]

Abdullah Elmir.... DICKHEAD!!!

They ask how can a "normal" "Australian" teenager become a jihadist?
The answer is one cannot...

The question should be what are his family's beliefs, how have they behaved and what have they taught him how was he brought up what were his beliefs?

Multiculti has a lot to answer for.

Some honest answers to that might be welcome.

I can only imagine what some of these radical foreigners must discuss at the dinner table. Whilst normal ausies are learning about footy or something, it is clear that ME people preach something very different. Perhaps they view the country now as a barren waste, ripe for a takeover.

In a way, 'multiculti has a lot to answer for'. But in time I wonder if the Muslim thing will be able to pare itself from that, and be a standalone threat to our way of life? I think the problem is on our doorstep, but we just cant see it for the fog. After all, who knew about the 'Muslims' prior to 9/11? No one. Now, they are all over our newscasts, in our hearts and minds, and deliver us evil on a regular basis. The west has failed to prevent the carry over from the past 12 or thirteen years of conflict.

[Black Orchid]

I can only imagine what some of these radical foreigners must discuss at the dinner table.

Who knows. I have some next door and when they eat outside and in ear-shot of neighbours they do not speak English. Funny that.

[Neferti]

I can only imagine what some of these radical foreigners must discuss at the dinner table.

Who knows. I have some next door and when they eat outside and in ear-shot of neighbours they do not speak English. Funny that.

Have you "met" them? How do you know that they are radical? Have you figured out what language they speak?

Sorry, but I have had neighbours who have not interfered and are "nice" and are also "foreign" and/or "coloured". We haven't been best mates, but we have always got along.

[Black Orchid]

I can only imagine what some of these radical foreigners must discuss at the dinner table.

Who knows. I have some next door and when they eat outside and in ear-shot of neighbours they do not speak English. Funny that.

Have you "met" them? How do you know that they are radical? Have you figured out what language they speak?

Sorry, but I have had neighbours who have not interfered and are "nice" and are also "foreign" and/or "coloured". We haven't been best mates, but we have always got along.

SIGH, yes I have met them and I too have had "nice" and "foreign" neighbours. Surprise surprise, I also have "nice", "foreign" and "Muslim" friends. Do you have any Muslim friends? People you know well?

What have your neighbours not interfered with/in and how do you know what they do?

I am not au fait with ME languages so, no, I have no idea. Perhaps I could tape it and you could translate?

BTW I get on fine with them when we pass each other in the street. Not at all sure what your point is though.

[Rorschach]

I used to get on fine with the Security Guards at work... they were muslim one I bumped into in a shopping centre and he introduced me to his wife and kids... he seemed a nice guy.
But he was sacked and arrested because at the time of 9/11 he sent threats to various embassies from work. He was a Muslim.

[AnaTom]

BTW I get on fine with them when we pass each other in the street. Not at all sure what your point is though.

Yes, they appear pious, and that is where we have a problem. I hope my attempt to describe how we will have a caliphate by stealth covers this.

It is likely that even the killer cult members of the ME Islam are pious; even when explaining their brutality and actions. So their piety which we are all exhorted to respect, is nullified by their extreme actions and plans. It is blatantly obvious that they teach hate and division at an early age. We have to recognise this as a problem.

The first ten minutes or so of the following video explains a few things:



It goes to education and the link with the Saudi's.