Gough Gone

[Rorschach]

It wasn't free for long Nef in fact it never was really free.

[Neferti]

It wasn't free for long Nef in fact it never was really free.

That is why sensible people voted Whitlam out in 1975. I remember it fairly well. Fraser was an idiot and still is but he WAS the ONLY option.

Hawke, despite his background as a Unionist, did sort of OK. Keating was an arrogant prick.

[mantra]

Medicare alone is a huge achievement. The list of progressive achievements I read today was astounding for a three year term.

Many which I had ignorantly assumed had occurred long before.

It almost seems as if Whitlam dragged Australia out of the 1950s.

Yes - Whitlam achieved so much. He did drag Australia out of the 50's. Howard put us back there for a while - now Abbott has moved us to the 60's. We really have become a regressive nation. Will we ever find someone great with some foresight to lead this country? In the last 20 years for every step we've taken forward - we've taken 2 steps backwards.

[IQS.RLOW]

As with any Labor government...

Big ideas- not all bad but the majority were.
Shocking implementation.
Incompetent cabinet.
Massive expense and damn the consequences of it.
Tax tax tax tax tax.
Get tossed out.
Rewrite history to show incompetent bastardry as unfortunate visionary.
Repeat every 10-20 years.

[Rorschach]

perhaps some should actually read what has already been posted so we can avoid duplication

More than forty reasons why Gough was great and conservatives hate him.

: "It was the Whitlam Government that 1. ended Conscription, ok 2. withdrew Australian troops from Vietnam, ok 3. implemented Equal Pay for Women, nope hasn't happened 4. launched an Inquiry into Education and the Funding of Government and Non-government Schools on a Needs Basis, yet nothing has happened even now 5. established a separate ministry responsible for Aboriginal Affairs, discrimination 6. established the single Department of Defence,ok 7. withdrew support for apartheid–South Africa, ok 8. granted independence to Papua New Guinea,done way too early 9. abolished Tertiary Education Fees, yet we have hecs 10. established the Tertiary Education Assistance Scheme (TEAS), didn't last 11. increased pensions, everyone does 12. established Medibank, ok 13. established controls on Foreign Ownership of Australian resources, not enough done 14. passed the Family Law Act establishing No-Fault Divorce, ok 15. passed a series of laws banning Racial and Sexual Discrimination, and look at the mess we have these days 16. extended Maternity Leave and Benefits for Single Mothers, leading to increase in single unwed mothers 17. introduced One-Vote-One-Value to democratize the electoral system, not true 18. implemented wide-ranging reforms of the ALP's organization, not true 19. initiated Australia's first Federal Legislation on Human Rights, the Environment and Heritage, PC crap 20. established the Legal Aid Office, you mean the family law debacle don't you? 21. established the National Film and Television School, pork barrelling the arts 22. launched construction of National Gallery of Australia, pork barrelling the arts 23. established the Australian Development Assistance Agency, repealed by fraser 24. reopened the Australian Embassy in Peking after 24 years, ok 25. established the Prices Justification Tribunal, well how is that working? 26. revalued the Australian Dollar, which had to be corrected by Hawke and Keating later 27. cut tariffs across the board, ok for some not others 28. established the Trade Practices Commission, replaced 29. established the Australian National Parks and Wildlife Service, ok 30. established the Law Reform Commission, an in house vested interest body a new body was formed 31. established the Australian Film Commission, hows that going... more arts porkbarrelling 32. established the Australia Council, more arty farty funds 33. established the Australian Heritage Commission, unnecessary bureacracy 34. established the Consumer Affairs Commission, oh dear... 35. established the Technical and Further Education Commission, why 36. implemented a national employment and training program, dead 37. created Telecom and Australia Post to replace the Postmaster-General's Department, ok but unnecessary 38. devised the Order of Australia Honors System to replace the British Honors system, why 39. abolished appeals to the Privy Council, ok 40. changed the National Anthem to 'Advance Australia Fair' (confirmed at 1977 Referendum), huh? wasn't that under Hawke? who wrote this shit? 41. instituted Aboriginal Land Rights, racist discriminatory unnecessary pc crap and 42. sewered most of Sydney. ok and melbourne apparently (Hard to believe, isn't it, that Sydney wasn't even sewered 40 years ago???) Mind you it took them all of 3 years!!! Much loved, fondly remembered, Rest In Peace GOUGH." Like I said his lasting legacy will be medicare and Sewerage, good onya Gough.

[Rorschach]

Medicare alone is a huge achievement. The list of progressive achievements I read today was astounding for a three year term.

Many which I had ignorantly assumed had occurred long before.

It almost seems as if Whitlam dragged Australia out of the 1950s.

Yes - Whitlam achieved so much. He did drag Australia out of the 50's. Howard put us back there for a while - now Abbott has moved us to the 60's. We really have become a regressive nation. Will we ever find someone great with some foresight to lead this country? In the last 20 years for every step we've taken forward - we've taken 2 steps backwards.

Well that's just rubbish mantra you want to make such claims best you post some proof.

[Rorschach]

As with any Labor government...

Big ideas- not all bad but the majority were.
Shocking implementation.
Incompetent cabinet.
Massive expense and damn the consequences of it.
Tax tax tax tax tax.
Get tossed out.
Rewrite history to show incompetent bastardry as unfortunate visionary.
Repeat every 10-20 years.

There is much in common between Rudd and Whitlam.
In the end the results are the same, a government with out of control spending and no real idea of how they will pay for it all.

[mantra]

And you think the Liberals are faultless?

I doubt Howard or Abbott will be remembered for anything much aside from illegal invasions, inhumane treatment of refugees and selling Australia off to foreigners.

[IQS.RLOW]

Howard will forever be thought of fondly as a great man who right enjoyed 11 years at the helm of Australia as our second longest serving PM.

You shouldn't ever compare Liberal PMs with the ALP counterparts. There are few of them and they have mostly been terrible for the country.

[Rorschach]

And you think the Liberals are faultless?

I doubt Howard or Abbott will be remembered for anything much aside from illegal invasions, inhumane treatment of refugees and selling Australia off to foreigners.

Are you talking to me mantra?
Are you making a false statement or inferring a falsehood?
I am not rusted-on to any political party, and I am not overly fond of either major party.
As for your biased crap in the last sentence... a hater's gotta hate eh.