Global Warming

[GeorgeH]

Yes, the quality of the information counts. You present shit information from crackpot sites.

[Rorschach]

Really? Then prove it

I keep proving you spout outdated propaganda.

[GeorgeH]

JoNova is a PR flack with links to the Heartland Insititute—they look for ways to discredit global warming and that is not science—it is lobbying, no matter what credentials people possess.

WassUp is frequently wrong, only an idiot like roach would use it as a source of good information.

[Rorschach]

Lots of people are associated with Heartland only an ignorant conspiranut like yourself would try to make something out of it here. Even people on the AGW Alarmist side of the debate have been paid by Heartland, for services rendered, get a life and stop spouting rubbish.

Really? Then prove it

I keep proving you spout outdated propaganda.

http://joannenova.com.au/about/
End of the Monkey crap!!!

[GeorgeH]

JoNova, PR flack for fossil fuel interests.

Not good at her job, that Convoy of Incontinence was hilarious!

[GeorgeH]

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/federal ... 14eq1.html

and

http://www.carbonmarketinstitute.org/Li ... Report.pdf

Business doesn’t have time for JoNova style crap.

[Rorschach]

So we have more made up crap re Nova from you and you seem to think I care about personalities and not the facts.

Typical LW prog

Still waiting for you to prove something Monk.
Your first link is a load of caka....
Your second... is what the first is based on and... it surely wouldn't be biased or have vested interests would it? The Carbon Market Institute

Just being a tad HYPOCRITICAL again eh....

Oh and Monk, where are the actual questions asked?
As for the results... you do realise that you'd be drawing a very long bow to even suggest they back you and an ETS or a carbon tax don't you. Economics is their major concern. Action by larger countries is their major concern.

[Outlaw Yogi]

... you seem to think I care about personalities and not the facts.

Getting off topic for a sec, but you do care about personalities and not facts.

For example you worship Gina Rhinehart because she has money, and ignore the fact every cent of it was created by her old man Lang Hancock, and also ignore the fact she steals from her own children.
She's lucky my name's not John Rhinehart, or she'd be dead already.

I feel for the Gina's offspring because like them I had to deal with a parasitic organism called my mother, who like Gina tried to steal the family trust of which I am a beneficiary. If she had succeeded in gaining control of the money, I was going to make sure she never got to spend a cent of it.

As for the Heartland Institute (never heard of before) a quick google suggests it's pretty similar if not the same as IPA.
According to the Wiki:

and was described by the New York Times as "the primary American organization pushing climate change skepticism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heartland_Institute

And so destroys any credibility it might have had.
I tend to glaze over orgs with an agenda as far as GW goes, whether they be pro or opposed, and study those genuinely looking for possible alternate causes of GW, just in case something new is discovered.

[Rorschach]

... you seem to think I care about personalities and not the facts.

Getting off topic for a sec, but you do care about personalities and not facts.

For example you worship Gina Rhinehart because she has money, and ignore the fact every cent of it was created by her old man Lang Hancock, and also ignore the fact she steals from her own children.
She's lucky my name's not John Rhinehart, or she'd be dead already. No I don't. I don't particularly like her or what I see and hear from her she is pro Multiculti for example. i am not.

I feel for the Gina's offspring because like them I had to deal with a parasitic organism called my mother, who like Gina tried to steal the family trust of which I am a beneficiary. If she had succeeded in gaining control of the money, I was going to make sure she never got to spend a cent of it.

As for the Heartland Institute (never heard of before) a quick google suggests it's pretty similar if not the same as IPA.
According to the Wiki:

and was described by the New York Times as "the primary American organization pushing climate change skepticism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heartland_Institute

And so destroys any credibility it might have had. It's a LW progressive smoke screen. it is pretty irrelevant in the argument. Except to monk.
I tend to glaze over orgs with an agenda as far as GW goes, whether they be pro or opposed, and study those genuinely looking for possible alternate causes of GW, just in case something new is discovered. You don't see me quoting heartland do you? I tend to read everything though just in case someone publishes something factual and useful

[Rorschach]

It would seem that the record Antarctic Sea Ice would be even more of a record if it wasn't for the geothermal activity along the West Antarctic Volcanic Rift System