Global Warming

[GeorgeH]

YOU already DEBUNKED me?

bwahahahahahahahahahahaha

[IQS.RLOW]

Yeah, this shows it is garbage science:

October 1 marked an important anniversary: 18 years during which the earth average temperature has remained unchanged.

Why do you deny the science?
Are you still living in the dark ages and think the ALP is running the show?

Youve been fucking thrashed on this Monk
A Bwhahahaha doesnt mean shit except you acknowledging youre a fucking goober who lost the debate.

[Rorschach]

About 30 odd pages ago...

Don't you just love it when people make claims like this...

About a quarter of those emissions end up in the oceans — as a result, our seas are turning more acidic at a rate not seen in 300 million years.

Good one Monkey Boy, so what you are saying and the people you think are supporting you are saying is that this occured before 300 million years ago. Before the industrial revolution and not as a result of anything man-made we'd assume eh? right? huh? Could it have been a completely NATURAL phenomenon then?

Ok now that we've established that lets look at Ocean Acidification a process that goes on all the time.

Also NATURALLY...

http://joannenova.com.au/2012/01/scripp ... naturally/

[Rorschach]

My original point in answer to your crap.

Arctic ice melt....

Global warming? Satellite data shows Arctic sea ice coverage up 50 percent!
by Dan McGrath on December 16, 2013 in Al Gore, Failed predictions, Global Cooling, Ice
By Michael Bastasch

It was only five years ago in December that Al Gore claimed that the polar ice caps would be completely melted by now. But he might be surprised to find out that Arctic ice coverage is up 50 percent this year from 2012 levels.

“Some of the models suggest that there is a 75 percent chance that the entire north polar ice cap, during some of the summer months, could be completely ice-free within the next five to seven years,” Gore said in 2008.

The North Pole is still there, and growing. BBC News reports that data from Europe’s Cryosat spacecraft shows that Arctic sea ice coverage was nearly 9,000 cubic kilometers (2,100 cubic miles) by the end of this year’s melting season, up from about 6,000 cubic kilometers (1,400 cubic miles) during the same time last year.

Remember the cries when the Northwest passage was open for the first time....
since...
since...
since the last time it was open...

Remember Gore and the Polar Bear scare....
well...
Polar Bear numbers are...
you guessed it...

UP!

Oh and Monkey boy the Arctic "Climate" Council says most of the melting up there has been due to recent increases in Methane.... you'll need to pass that onto the ALP so they can work out a tax for that too.

Oh and Monk....
why do you think Greenland is called GREENland?

Your response was to ignore the entire post and flood with yet another version of your crap claim.

[Rorschach]

The temperature "pause" so called by the IPCC which you are in denial about.

Lucas already posted an adequate graph, which as usual you ignored and then flooded us with more denialist crap... ignore flood ignore flood... you couldn't debate your way out of a paper bag.

Note the trend is coooling....

[Rorschach]

Sea level rises....
Anyone with an ounce of common sense can find lots of this on the Net.
Sea levels;
1/ don't rise globally.
2/ have been shown not to have risen or fallen beyond natural measures
3/ are "mistakenly" reported due to; biased/vested interests, subsumption of land masses.

Appropriate points highlighted (yet again) for Monk who ignores all facts.

New Major Study Determines Dangerous, Accelerating Sea Levels Due To CO2 Emissions Is Fantasy

The IPCC's discredited alarmist global warming propaganda took another serious hit from a major scientific study on the empirical evidence regarding accelerating sea levels - per the study, sea levels, due to natural, long-term oscillations, likely to increase only a scant 9 inches by century-end

The IPCC's refusal to incorporate and/or accept any empirical evidence that is contrary to their climate models' alarmist catastrophe predictions is well known. As a result, the IPCC's scary global warming predictions have been shown to be egregiously wrong and terribly misleading for policymakers.

The anti-science fantasy approach to the IPCC's political-driven "analysis" has suffered another major blow from a new study by Nicola Scafetta. This latest research confirms previous studies about just how wrong the IPCC has been about those "accelerating" sea level increases.

"This is a major paper, which undertakes a comprehensive review of recent studies, which diverge widely in their findings...main reason for divergence is the length of records used in studies, and shows that the quasi-cyclic oscillations of the major ocean basins largely account for the differences in those studies conclusions...it is shown that the periodicity of the major oscillations, being 60 to 70 years, require a minimum record length of around 110 years in order to prevent polynomial fitting of long term secular trends being contaminated with shorter term quasi-cyclic variation. Using tide gauge records going back as far as 1700...compares the trends in sea level rise acceleration at widely spread geographical locations once the quasi-cyclic components are removed and finds the long term global average to be very small – around 0.01mm/yr...study suggests that sea level rise during the C21st [21st century] will be around 277+/-7mm, or about 9 inches." [Nicola Scafetta 2013: Climate Dynamics]

Conclusions:

1. An analysis of long-term empirical evidence confirms 20th and 21st sea level increases have been a function of long-term natural oscillation forces.

2. Potential sea level rise by end of century is highly likely to be less than a foot, well below the IPCC's "scientists'" predictions.

3. The IPCC's climate-model alarmism regarding dangerous, accelerating sea levels due to human CO2 emissions is without empirical merit - summarily, an IPCC fantasy.

Additional sea level charts and postings. More peer-reviewed studies.

[GeorgeH]

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[IQS.RLOW]

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This is Monk arguing from his position of strength.

[Rorschach]

Fell asleep in the vat again eh Monkey Boy....
You have no credibility.

[GeorgeH]

Warming and heat in the southern oceans badly underestimated:

Southern oceans heating up faster than scientists realised

The upper layers of the world’s oceans have been warming much faster than oceanographers realised over the past few decades, according to a new study.

Sparse sampling of the Southern Hemisphere’s oceans have led to conservative estimates of warming. But the new research, published in Nature Climate Change, suggests that the amount of heat energy entering the upper 700 metres of these oceans has been underestimated by anything from 48% to 152%.

Because the Southern Hemisphere contains 60% of the world’s ocean, this means that globally, the oceans have been heating between 24% and 58% faster than previously thought.

Meanwhile, a separate study has found that very little of the warming since 2005 has penetrated the “bottom half” of the oceans, below 2 kilometres, although shallower waters have continued to warm.

Models and boats
More than 90% of the excess heat generated by global warming goes into the oceans, causing sea levels to rise as the water expands.

But while climate models were good at replicating the precise satellite observations of sea-level rise since 1993, they were inconsistent with global estimates of the oceans' changing heat content, as calculated using the relatively few direct measurements of temperature taken in southern regions.

Heat not reaching the deepest seas
The Argo floats were used in the second study, to profile the movement of heat down to depths of 2 km.

The results suggest that sea-level rise is due to changes in the shallower oceans and to the addition of meltwater from land, rather than to thermal expansion in the deeper parts of the ocean, report researchers led by William Llovel of NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, also in Nature Climate Change.

“One thing that is clear from both these studies is the ocean is continuing to warm,” Dr Durack said.

https://theconversation.com/southern-oc ... ised-32627

The article concludes by pointing out that the deeper oceans will likely start warming over time from the warm shallow layer on top of the deeps.