The Real Threat is not ISIS - Ebola

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Re: The Real Threat is not ISIS - Ebola

Post by AiA in Atlanta » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:08 am

The Texas Ebola patient has died. And American politicians are using it to attack everything from Obama (how dare he let this happen - it is all his fault!) to immigrants (keep the sick filth out!).

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Re: The Real Threat is not ISIS - Ebola

Post by Super Nova » Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:10 am

AiA in Atlanta wrote:The Texas Ebola patient has died. And American politicians are using it to attack everything from Obama (how dare he let this happen - it is all his fault!) to immigrants (keep the sick filth out!).
Amazing. I often wonder how the US ever became such a powerhouse. They should thank the Germans.
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Re: The Real Threat is not ISIS - Ebola

Post by Super Nova » Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:50 pm

Looks like we may have the first case in Australia. :sad

Ebola scare: Woman in Cairns hospital

The Queensland nurse at the centre of an Ebola scare felt well but was still in isolation in a Cairns hospital as she awaited test results on Thursday evening, according to the Red Cross.

Queensland Health confirmed a 57-year-old woman Sue Ellen Kovack was being assessed in Cairns Hospital for the deadly Ebola virus, after she volunteered with Red Cross to help combat the outbreak in west Africa.


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Re: The Real Threat is not ISIS - Ebola

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Re: The Real Threat is not ISIS - Ebola

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Re: The Real Threat is not ISIS - Ebola

Post by Super Nova » Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:05 pm

My biggest concern in this region is air travel. if an infected person sits next or near to me and splutters and coughs the risk is real.

The air flow in the plane will just carry it to everyone.

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Re: The Real Threat is not ISIS - Ebola

Post by IQS.RLOW » Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:30 pm

Its not airborne so how does ventilation fit in?
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Re: The Real Threat is not ISIS - Ebola

Post by Super Nova » Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:40 am

IQS.RLOW wrote:Its not airborne so how does ventilation fit in?
It is not an airborne virus however body fluid can be transferred via fluid.
And by 'bodily fluids,' you mean?

Blood, sweat, feces, vomit, semen and spit. Basically any kind of fluid that comes from the body. People in West Africa are avoiding hugs and handshakes because the virus can be spread through the sweat on someone's hand.

The uninfected person would have to have a break in the skin of their hand that would allow entry of the virus, CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta says. But "we all have minor breaks in our skin. And there is a possibility that some of the virus can be transmitted that way."
I figure a guy sitting next to me coughing his guts out all over me is a good chance for bodily fluid transfer. if this stuff survives in a fluid for a couple of days small droplets can be forced around the cabin by the airflow infecting people further away.
While the Ebola virus is believed to be able to survive for some days in liquid outside an infected organism, Doctors Without Borders says, agents such as chlorine, heat, direct sunlight, soaps and detergents can kill it.
I don't buy it is NO risk. I think they want to prevent panic. That's fair enough.
While the CDC acknowledges it is possible for a person infected with Ebola in West Africa to get on a plane and arrive in another country -- which is apparently what happened in the U.S. case -- the chances of the virus spreading during the journey are low. That's unless your fellow passenger is bleeding, sweating profusely or vomiting on you, of course.
Low risk is not no risk.
"It is highly unlikely that someone suffering such symptoms would feel well enough to travel," the International Air Transport Association said.
That's bullshit. It comes on fast. I get on flights from 14 to 17 hours long. I have flown many times feeling quite ill. I've paid for the flight and I'm going.

I see flight as my biggest chance to come in contact with this virus. Unless I have no breaks in my skin or wrap myself in a giant condom and a aqua lung the risk exists or it being transferred to me via spittle droplets that I touch on the sources with an area of skin that has a few mossie bites or directly breath it in and enter via the lung or the mouth ulcer i hope not the have.

They are not telling us the real risk.... low risk is not closer enough to zero for me.

Anyway a link containing the extract above.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/30/healt ... index.html
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Re: The Real Threat is not ISIS - Ebola

Post by GeorgeH » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:47 am

That Cairns case is not Ebola (ABC24)

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Re: The Real Threat is not ISIS - Ebola

Post by Super Nova » Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:12 am

Right, so wearing full body condom protection isn't enough to stop catching it.

Yeah... low risk ... my ass... don't buy it.

Ebola: Texas Hospital Worker Tests Positive

A hospital worker in Texas who treated a patient who died of ebola has tested positive for the disease.

The female nurse had been caring for Thomas Eric Duncan at the Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas.

Mr Duncan, 42, who had recently arrived from his native Liberia, died in an isolation ward at the hospital last Wednesday, 11 days after being admitted.

The unnamed person, who had been wearing full protective gear, reported having a "low grade fever" on Friday and was then isolated, officials said

It is the first known case of ebola being contracted or transmitted in the US.

The worker caught the disease because of a breach of care protocol that could have taken place during Mr Duncan's dialysis or intubation, said Dr Thomas Frieden, from the Centres for Disease Control (CDC).

He said all those who cared for Mr Duncan could potentially be exposed to ebola.

Officials were "very concerned" because the worker followed full CDC precautions, said Dan Varga, the chief clinical officer for Texas Health Resources.

He noted the full protective gear would have included a mask, gown, and gloves.

Officials are now monitoring 18 health care workers, according to Dr Varga.

The hospital worker is believed to be the first person in the US to test positive for ebola who has not been to West Africa, where the outbreak has claimed more than 4,000 lives.


The care giver's condition was described as "stable" and they are going through a "great ordeal", officials said, adding the person had been considered at "low risk" of contracting the disease.

Mr Duncan was originally sent home from the hospital despite showing symptoms of ebola, and was only re-admitted when his condition deteriorated.

His case sparked panic about the possible spread of the virus in the US despite assurances from President Barack Obama the chances of that happening were "extraordinarily low".

The US has begun screening patients entering through John F Kennedy airport in New York.

It was the first of five airports to introduce the measures, brought in to give a layer of protection after the death of the first patient diagnosed with ebola on US soil.

The four other airports - Newark, Chicago's O'Hare, Washington Dulles and Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International - are due to begin the checks next week.

In Spain, an assistant nurse infected with ebola is showing signs of "slight improvement".

But Teresa Romero's prognosis remains serious and further complications could not be ruled out, according to the country's government.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/ebo ... ar-BB8RVQR
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