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[Rorschach]

I think you've missed the point Lucas.
I do understand yours and we have similar views on Islam... but YWH is Allah is God in fact Allah means God.
The religions themselves differ, but their devotion is to the one true God, the God of Abraham. Which is why they are all cited as abrahamic religions.
BTW not all Christians believe in the trinity.
Certainly not all Christians hold all Catholic beliefs and that is where Muslims are so often wrong in regards to Christianity because they continually cite Catholicism as if it were Christianity.

[Lucas]

I think you've missed the point Lucas.
I do understand yours and we have similar views on Islam... but YWH is Allah is God in fact Allah means God.
The religions themselves differ, but their devotion is to the one true God, the God of Abraham. Which is why they are all cited as abrahamic religions.
BTW not all Christians believe in the trinity.
Certainly not all Christians hold all Catholic beliefs and that is where Muslims are so often wrong in regards to Christianity because they continually cite Catholicism as if it were Christianity.

Anyone can use Allah or Yahweh, God means God. I can invent a God and call him Allah. Just like mohammed did. Yahweh is not Islams Allah as Yahwehs prophets do not support the teaching of islamic allah. Yahweh is Abrahams god that's why I mentioned Yahweh.
Teachings after Abraham are the things that make all their doctrines different. Teachings before opposing teachings after make them false teachings.

They are cited as Abrahamic religions because they claim to be worshipping Abrahams God. Any religion can claim that. Dosen't mean it is true. If its doctrine proves it false then they do not. My beef is these muslims running around making out they do when they do not.

Saying they all worship the one true god doesn't cut it. They can all say they worship the one true god that does not mean the same god. Anyone can say they worship the God of Abraham then run off and make their own god up. Unfortunately with Islam they do not go together as the same God as the Prophets prophesied God sending his Son Jesus Islamic Allah does not. In fact the Christians of the day called their god allah as it means god. Muslims go off about that as well trying to strip that away.

If you are talking Abrahamic then you are talking everything prior to Abraham supporting your god's claim as well. Abrahams God does not support the islamic god.

No matter which way you cut it Islamic teaching that Allah has no Son is not Supported by the Prophets of the Abrahamic God they claim prior to Abraham.

In essence if one God is true all others MUST be wrong and any religion can claim they are the others god. Islam does this that's my point. Only largely to insinuate it is right and everyone else has it wrong.

Agreed on the Catholicism.

[Lucas]

If they all worshiped the same God then two of them must be wrong because each Doctrine states that.

[Rorschach]

If they all worshiped the same God then two of them must be wrong because each Doctrine states that.

Really?
So 3 people seeing the same thing and describing it slightly differently means 2 must be wrong?

[Rorschach]

You can have 3 religions or more worshipping the same God, Lucas. Or claiming to.
That doesn't mean they are all right or all wrong in the specifics of their beliefs and teachings does it?
All 3 religions mentioned here have a version of the Golden Rule.
How Islam justifies all the other Quranic verses that contradict it though, is beyond me.
But then so does the Jewish Torah.

[Lucas]

You can have 3 religions or more worshipping the same God, Lucas. Or claiming to.

Sure claiming to only as the religions do not teach the same doctrine.

That doesn't mean they are all right or all wrong in the specifics of their beliefs and teachings does it?

It does if the beliefs and doctrine contradicts the God or the prophets of the God before your religion was invented. Not only that if God did send his only Son to die on the cross and forgive us our sins that makes Judaism and Islam both false religions. If Islamic Allah is real then he was not the Abrahamic God according to the Quaran.
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Those who say: ‘The Lord of Mercy has begotten a son,’ preach a monstrous falsehood, at which the very heavens might crack, the earth break asunder, and the mountains crumble to dust. That they should ascribe a son to the Merciful, when it does not become the Lord of Mercy to beget one!
—Qur’an 19:88

All 3 religions mentioned here have a version of the Golden Rule.

Yeah all ever so slightly different though.

How Islam justifies all the other Quranic verses that contradict it though, is beyond me.
But then so does the Jewish Torah.

Yeah Jesus said it best when he said you will know them by their fruits I think.

[Lucas]

If they all worshiped the same God then two of them must be wrong because each Doctrine states that.

Really?
So 3 people seeing the same thing and describing it slightly differently means 2 must be wrong?

Hang on they are not seeing the same thing, no one said that. They are claiming the same thing. The defining factor of each religion is its doctrine. As each of those religions doctrines say they are the only true way either two must be wrong as they claim the same God as Abraham with one correct or all of them are wrong meaning Abrahams God does not exist.. As Islam claims the Abrahamic god they are out as explained so that leaves two up for debate.

[Rorschach]

If they all worshiped the same God then two of them must be wrong because each Doctrine states that.

Really?
So 3 people seeing the same thing and describing it slightly differently means 2 must be wrong?

Hang on they are not seeing the same thing, no one said that. They are claiming the same thing. The defining factor of each religion is its doctrine. As each of those religions doctrines say they are the only true way either two must be wrong as they claim the same God as Abraham with one correct or all of them are wrong meaning Abrahams God does not exist.. As Islam claims the Abrahamic god they are out as explained so that leaves two up for debate.

It was an analogy
BTW both Muslims and Hebrews have the most similar religions of the 3.

[Lucas]

Yeah Christianity is the only one that provides the concept of salvation. Through Jesus Christ Gods Son paying the debt for sinning. It is also the only one where God's Spirit Himself actually enters your being entwined with your spirit. All the others are based on deeds and doing what you are told like a Tally is kept.

[Rorschach]

I don't know about that, Islam promises 72 virgins to the male populace doesn't it.
Some may indeed consider that heaven if not salvation.