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Lucas
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Re: Information Technology Discussions

Post by Lucas » Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:41 pm

GeorgeH wrote:I want superior, low maintenance FTTH. Stuff Telstra copper!
You won't need telstra copper if a radio network is set up at the node.
The one the Fiber runs too. Of course that would have to be done.

I am on NBN 100 Megabits down 40 up and as it stands if wifi is used it will be close to 3 times the speed if the morons don't throttle like they do the NBN. Its an easier roll out than fiber or having to convert fiber to copper which would be a pain in the arse and a maintenance nightmare.

GeorgeH

Re: Information Technology Discussions

Post by GeorgeH » Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:53 pm

Radio, like mobile broadband?

No thanks, I was on NextG (G3) for a couple of years. The number of dropouts if there were a couple of clouds in the sky—reboot city. No, shove radio.

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Re: Information Technology Discussions

Post by Lucas » Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:56 pm

GeorgeH wrote:Radio, like mobile broadband?

No thanks, I was on NextG (G3) for a couple of years. The number of dropouts if there were a couple of clouds in the sky—reboot city. No, shove radio.
No I am not talking that.

GeorgeH

Re: Information Technology Discussions

Post by GeorgeH » Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:58 pm

What do you mean then?

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Re: Information Technology Discussions

Post by Lucas » Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:02 pm

You want copper from the node.

If they are going to run copper they need to convert the fibre at the node.
You are better off converting fibre at the node and enabling WIFI with a tower less work & maintenance and save money. More than enough speed and almost 3 times faster than our fasted plan available in this country. Hell I watch HD movies with Apple TV over WIFI pulling nowhere near 100 megabits. WIFI can run with current tech up to 288 Megabits. Not the 3g or 4g tech. In the future it will be even faster.

GeorgeH

Re: Information Technology Discussions

Post by GeorgeH » Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:13 pm

Nah. Still EM radiation affected by atmospheric conditions.

EM suffers from lack of spectrum.

FTTH is the way to go.

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Re: Information Technology Discussions

Post by Lucas » Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:29 pm

GeorgeH wrote:Nah. Still EM radiation affected by atmospheric conditions.

EM suffers from lack of spectrum.

FTTH is the way to go.
Fiber is easier to roll out than FTTH and less hardware required in doing so.

The copper will be slower too and no, spectrum will not be an issue.
People can actually do it themselves except they banned it happening.

One guy gets NBN and enables WIFI the next house enables WIFI and so on up the street. The weather doesn't effect this WIFI its not 4g. You with me. That's how we used to hack it.

As the nerds started to do this they banned the practice because they all shared the Internet connection costs and speed of course.

A proper roll out of that scenario is Fibre to the node then WIFI tower and everyone gets 288 Megabits at current tech. You can sit in a thunderstorm and still use that unless lightening strikes your house its not 4g.

With FTTH you need to convert light to electrical signals with fiber you don't you roll it all the way to your wall and its easier to do so. Now fibre can run I think 1000 times faster if they twist the light. Have a google and its still easier to deliver and cheaper than NEW copper to the house and converting Light to electrical signals.

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Re: Information Technology Discussions

Post by GeorgeH » Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:32 pm

It is EM radiation and it is affected by weather and other atmospheric conditions.

True reliable superfast broadband means FTTH.

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Re: Information Technology Discussions

Post by Lucas » Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:41 pm

GeorgeH wrote:It is EM radiation and it is affected by weather and other atmospheric conditions.

True reliable superfast broadband means FTTH.
LOL clearly you have no idea what you are talking about.

Just post an image of a clown next time it will save people assuming you understand the subject matter at hand.

Cheers

As you were.

GeorgeH

Re: Information Technology Discussions

Post by GeorgeH » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:07 pm

Lucas wrote:
GeorgeH wrote:Nah. Still EM radiation affected by atmospheric conditions.

EM suffers from lack of spectrum.

FTTH is the way to go.
Fiber is easier to roll out than FTTH and less hardware required in doing so.

The copper will be slower too and no, spectrum will not be an issue.
People can actually do it themselves except they banned it happening.

One guy gets NBN and enables WIFI the next house enables WIFI and so on up the street. The weather doesn't effect this WIFI its not 4g. You with me. That's how we used to hack it.

As the nerds started to do this they banned the practice because they all shared the Internet connection costs and speed of course.

A proper roll out of that scenario is Fibre to the node then WIFI tower and everyone gets 288 Megabits at current tech. You can sit in a thunderstorm and still use that unless lightening strikes your house its not 4g.

With FTTH you need to convert light to electrical signals with fiber you don't you roll it all the way to your wall and its easier to do so. Now fibre can run I think 1000 times faster if they twist the light. Have a google and its still easier to deliver and cheaper than NEW copper to the house and converting Light to electrical signals.
Contention would be fierce—you still need to bring the data to and from the original property. Then—one of the people sharing your connection is into child porn—he is downloading it on your IP. Then another neighbor joins up, pays for a month or two, then stops paying. What then, a new wifi password every month?

FTTH. It can be done, is physically feasible and not that more expensive than FTTN and earns more revenue than ADSL and FTTN. Not only that—our trading partners have done it, NZ is passing us in terms of premises passed and premises connected. No Boys Own jerry rigged wifi set ups. Superfast broadband, almost symmetrical.

When the ’Boomers start to get frail—osteoporosis, late onset diabetes, arthritis and rheumatism, dementia etc—FTTH and telehealth will allow the frail Boomers to stay in their own homes longer which means Boomer couples stay together. The alternative is massive spending on hospitals and nursing homes, building, staffing and running.

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