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Bullying - What's changed

Post by Super Nova » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:13 pm

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I saw this on facebook and it got me thinking.

Bullying was a part of my childhood and it could be argued that it's a part of growing up and development because the world is not a safe place.

I guess there are those that cannot hack it and kill themselves or end up emotionally damaged. No doubt.

What I learned from my experience was:
- When I was small and could do little they would attack
- When I got bigger and hit back they were cowards
- Once I realised they were cowards I never allowed myself to be bullied again, they just moved on to be standoffs or fights.

I have to admit if my daughter was bullied I would try to help.

My father just said to me... toughen up.

Now, if you shelter a child from the nasty people in the world will they will not be street wise to the real world.

We need to protect our kids but they need to grow. There are adult bullies and you need to know how to handle them.

In extreme cases the kids need a safe place and person to go to, otherwise it's a part of growing up as much as I despise the act.
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Re: Bullying - What's changed

Post by IQS.RLOW » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:18 pm

Anyone who still uses the term "bully" or variant of to describe their personal interactions with other humans and who are over the age of 13 are passive-aggressive professional victims who should be kicked in the nuts.
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Re: Bullying - What's changed

Post by Super Nova » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:56 pm

IQS.RLOW wrote:Anyone who still uses the term "bully" or variant of to describe their personal interactions with other humans and who are over the age of 13 are passive-aggressive professional victims who should be kicked in the nuts.
When I first moved to England .... still in full on aussie mode, I got accused of bullying because I told a project manager off for failing to manage a project properly. He raised his voice... so I did too. He went to HR. Full hearing. Got cleared.

I have learned that in the work place people are claiming bullying when challenged for under performing so I have to be vary careful when pulling up some people. Also, if they were black or Indian or non-English I also learned to always take another person in with me for a difficult conversation so they couldn't pull the race card on me as well.

What a fucked up planet.
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Re: Bullying - What's changed

Post by Rorschach » Fri Aug 08, 2014 6:16 pm

Well LW progs and the PC Brigade have made life very difficult.
For them it's a matter of complaining first and loudest.
Name-calling and labeling, usually incorrectly.

If you are tall you also need to watch yourself, people get intimidated and next thing you know you've been standing over them. :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Re: Bullying - What's changed

Post by AiA in Atlanta » Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:45 pm

The world is full of bullies, psychopaths really. I worked for one as a teenager then many years later worked for another as an adult. I left that job and now regret not standing up to him. He deserved to be punched in the throat. A couple of jobs later I worked with a bully, a woman this time. This time I stood up for myself mostly by standing back and letting everyone else in the office see and hear her make an ass of herself.

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Re: Bullying - What's changed

Post by Super Nova » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:23 pm

AiA in Atlanta wrote:The world is full of bullies, psychopaths really. I worked for one as a teenager then many years later worked for another as an adult. I left that job and now regret not standing up to him. He deserved to be punched in the throat. A couple of jobs later I worked with a bully, a woman this time. This time I stood up for myself mostly by standing back and letting everyone else in the office see and hear her make an ass of herself.
Nice to see you grew some balls when it was a female bully :rofl :rofl

Only taking the piss.

The important thing from you post is the recognition that bullies exist in adult life. We all have to learn how to deal with them.

However I have some sympathy when it goes too far and there needs to be intervention. I have learned to deal with them myself.

Bullies need a person who is willing to be their victim. While you make yourself the victim it continues.

As I said I experienced some nasty bullying typically by the guys that were 2 years older then me but in the same year. that is, those that had been held back. I went to my 10th year school reunion and looked for these fuckers. When I meet them they were sad fuckers. 8 inches shorter than me. Working in shit go nowhere jobs and had married the local town bikes. I looked down on one of them and said, "I remember when you spat on me". he shit himself and immediately apologised and said how big I looked.

You have to stand up to bullies. The only lesson I ever learned. Even if you take a beating (which I did, 2 black eyes) as long as you get one good blow in and leave a mark. They are cowards and will leave you alone after you demonstrate you will not take their shit. if you take it, they keep on coming. a simple life lesson but is hard to learn.

Maybe my fathers advice was correct. Be a man and go defend yourself. old school but it worked and has served me well for the last 30 or so years.

I remember being pursued in Melbourne in a pub my this guy who was a fuck'n monster. I mean big, powerful, fit and his job required huge physical strength. he was the local legend when it came to fighting and the pub was pretty tough. I made the mistake of coming in one day after work wearing a suit. this bloke hassled me for a fight for 4 hours during the night. In the end I stood next to him in the bar and looked in hard in the eye, standing my ground (never move back or step back if they invade your personal space) and said.... "Look cozy, if you want to fight me OK, but you and I know there is no fuck'n point in me even trying to defend myself is there. you are just going to pulverise the shit out of me. So lets go, I am not even going to bother defending myself really because there is no fuck'n point". risky strategy and I meant it. I saw him beat a huge biker the week before and then pick him up and throw him out a glass window. The month before I saw him take on 2 big guys at once. They never touched him and I could hear the sound of the thumps in the other room in the bar.

Anyway he decided not to beat the shit out of me. At local parties they always invited Cozy, feed him free beer and he acted as the bouncer. a year later I went into the bar and we spoke and I said I am going camping. he said he had never been camping so I invited him. We became friends of sort. I asked him about that day and asked why he didn't beat me to a pulp. he said "... because I stood my ground and looked him in the eye".

Rule number one: stand you ground even at the risk of losing.... there is respect gained from standing your ground and losing in the eye of a bully.
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Re: Bullying - What's changed

Post by AiA in Atlanta » Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:06 am

My dad always said to get the first punch but that doesn't work in an office :P

Some recent research have shown that CEOs are often psychopaths. I suspect they were bullies as kids.

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Re: Bullying - What's changed

Post by boxy » Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:59 pm

Survival of the fittest. It works.

Even if it ain't pretty.
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Re: Bullying - What's changed

Post by Lucas » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:09 am

There is only one way to deal with bullies and that is to smack their head in period. If you don't know how too then learn.

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