Tony Abbott

[IQS.RLOW]

Bullshit. The science does not say that.

It hasn't warmed for 17 years despite CO2 being pumped into the atmosphere, therefore climate sensitivity to CO2 is much lower than scientists predicted, therefore there will be no environmental damage due to climate change. This is what the science is telling us. You just aren't listening. In fact the minor warming that may take place will be more beneficial than detrimental.

With the above being bullshit therefore this is also bullshit.

With having proven you wrong, my original statement stands. Only moonbats will be concerned about energy security. The rest of us will go on burning yummy, tasty black and brown coal goodness to light our lights, power our businesses, and warm our homes.

Yeas, about the level I expected of your contribution in this or any debate.

[Aussie]

Is all this place warrants at the moment. I'll give SN and Roach due credit. As for you and your retard shadow ~

[IQS.RLOW]

It's all your ability allows, being that you're dumber than dog shit. You embarrass yourself just fine carrying on over the admin position. The place doesn't deserve you doubling your dickhead factor with any of your so-called "contributions" to debate.

So please, stick with your smileys. It's all you are good for.

[Aussie]

It's all your ability allows, being that you're dumber than dog shit. You embarrass yourself just fine carrying on over the admin position. The place doesn't deserve you doubling your dickhead factor with any of your so-called "contributions" to debate.

So please, stick with your smileys. It's all you are good for.

[IQS.RLOW]

Good boy.

Eventually you'll learn not to drag your arse around on the carpet.

[Aussie]

[Super Nova]

Good boy.

Eventually you'll learn not to drag your arse around on the carpet.

That deserves a smiley.

[Aussie]

Good boy.

Eventually you'll learn not to drag your arse around on the carpet.

That deserves a smiley.

So does that.

[Rorschach]

Anyone car to point out where IQS was wrong?

[Super Nova]

Anyone car to point out where IQS was wrong?

Happy to.

It hasn't warmed for 17 years despite CO2 being pumped into the atmosphere,

Well let's be accurate then.

"that an apparent warming rate equivalent to almost 0.9 Cº is statistically insignificant"

Statistically insignificant is not the same as "it hasn't warmed".

From a link that support your argument: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/06/13/n ... -4-months/

therefore climate sensitivity to CO2 is much lower than scientists predicted,

I think that is true but we clearly don't understand many areas not in our model at the time including the seas impact on being a carbon sink. So there is a period potentially were sinks are absorbing carbon (not just CO2) and when they are full... then what.

All that is clear the previous model were wrong.

therefore there will be no environmental damage due to climate change. This is what the science is telling us.

That is just bollocks. There are too many issues and risks to list.... here is just one. (Monday 31 March 2014 01)

Climate change will damage Australia's coastal infrastructure
...
This scenario is leading to increasing risks for “coastal infrastructure and low-lying ecosystems” in Australia, threatening “widespread damage towards the upper end of projected sea-level-rise ranges.”

As oceans warm and the water acidifies, the Great Barrier Reef, like many reefs around the world, is set to decline, according to the IPCC. The vast reef, which may be declared ‘in danger’ by the World Heritage Committee when it meets in June, is “highly vulnerable” to warming and acidification, the report found.

“The Great Barrier Reef is expected to degrade under all climate change scenarios, reducing its attractiveness,” the report states. “Evidence of the ability of corals to adapt to rising temperatures and acidification is limited and appears insufficient to offset the detrimental effects of warming and acidification.”
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/m ... -says-ipcc

You just aren't listening.

Actually I am. I started this debate with you a couple of years ago.... not believing there was insignificant warming over the last 17 years. You have forced me to research my old position and really look hard into the information available and the science. I have concluded that some scientists were not balanced in the forecasts earlier influenced by political and greenies. They should be shot.

However the good thing is this was a wakeup call and the new forecast have significant scrutiny and review, probably more than any other research before publications and the forecast without action is a warming planet primarily due to human activity. that is the fact.

It will have major impacts on the world economies and the stability in the world as we fight over food and water and field resources.

In fact the minor warming that may take place will be more beneficial than detrimental.

Bollocks. It may be beneficial to some local environments but as a whole it will not.

Do you have anything to substantiate this claim?

With having proven you wrong, my original statement stands. Only moonbats will be concerned about energy security. The rest of us will go on burning yummy, tasty black and brown coal goodness to light our lights, power our businesses, and warm our homes.

We will continue to use coal. No doubt. It is a very easy energy store to release.

We should use it more cleanly.

We should continue to invest in alternates.

Yeas, about the level I expected of your contribution in this or any debate.