Abbott breaks Indonesian law

[mantra]

Do you think any criticism of Abbott's leadership should be silenced? This government is going to be far worse than Labor.

oh please

How about you try and make a valid criticism one day instead of your whiny bitching about trying to blame Abbott for shit that went down under the ALP...it will require some though on your behalf so don't strain yourself. It's not something you'll be used to doing.

I had to read your whining and bitching about the last government for 6 years - now it's your turn.

It's almost as pathetic as when you tried to explain away every fuckup under the last govt which was an every day occurrence. I think we conservatives are just asking you not to be so pathetic...to save yourself from embarrassing yourself.

At least I could explain it. For six long years all you did was abuse the government. Not once could you give a satisfactory explanation as to why Abbott would be better. Now he's in and you're doing the same. Still badmouthing Labor in the hope that it will distract from the dissatisfaction with Abbott.

What's he done so far apart from create tension with our neighbours and demand that we increase our national debt?

[mantra]

Mantra,

Tony Abbott is our PRIME MINISTER for the next 3 years. Get used to it.

Unless he can prove that he's not just an ageing iron-man - then few people will get used to him.

[wog_girl]

Unless he can prove that he's not just an ageing iron-man - then few people will get used to him.

I just don't get your Abbott hatred. The Liberals didn't fuck the country up, that was your mob.

[Rorschach]

There is no logic involved in mantra's hatred she's irrational when it comes to politics.

[mantra]

I just don't get your Abbott hatred. The Liberals didn't fuck the country up, that was your mob.

Yet you voted for them in 2007 didn't you?

There is no logic involved in mantra's hatred she's irrational when it comes to politics.

So did you read the polls today? It took 3 years before Abbott managed to lead Rudd in the polls - but less than 3 months for the electorate to wake up and realise that they had made a huge mistake in voting for a caveman.

So Roach it's not just me who you claim is being irrational in my judgement of Tony Abbott. Plenty of people are disgusted, but even the Abbott voters probably knew deep down that he'd be a lousy PM, especially with his primitive politics. This is not a good sign.

Shocking........

[Rorschach]

So did you read the polls today? It took 3 years before Abbott managed to lead Rudd in the polls - but less than 3 months for the electorate to wake up and realise that they had made a huge mistake in voting for a caveman.

So Roach it's not just me who you claim is being irrational in my judgement of Tony Abbott. Plenty of people are disgusted, but even the Abbott voters probably knew deep down that he'd be a lousy PM, especially with his primitive politics. This is not a good sign.

Shocking........

Neilson...

The home of left leaning rogue polls.

I'd be very surprised if this was any sort of real trend.

Being a rational person myself, I have no real problems with anything he has done as PM so far... his visit to Indonesia went very well or have you forgotten that?

So waht has he done so wrong then mantra.... come on... put up or shut up.

[mantra]

Neilson...

The home of left leaning rogue polls.

I'd be very surprised if this was any sort of real trend.

We'll have to wait and see. Maybe you will be surprised. Today I heard a RW journalist convince an Abbott supporter that the AC Nielson polls were usually very accurate.

so far... his visit to Indonesia went very well or have you forgotten that?

So waht has he done so wrong then mantra.... come on... put up or shut up.

We take our car to a panel beater to get a nice new paint job. We get it home and they've missed a couple of spots. What do we do about it...........

a) take it back and get the job finished properly or.....

b) don't take it back and say "it'll be right mate" and then a year later the missed areas have started rusting out, but the warranty has expired.

Abbott is the customer who chose option b.

If Abbott had been in the slightest bit professional - firstly he wouldn't have snubbed the local journalists and secondly - he would have made an effort to patch all this spy business up in order to move forward with his No. 1 election promise - to stop the people smugglers. Instead he's got much of Indonesia baying for his blood and their refusal to co-operate.

The longer this stand off is allowed to fester - the more unpopular Abbott will become. He needs to get his act together now rather than later.

[Rorschach]

Neilson...

The home of left leaning rogue polls.

I'd be very surprised if this was any sort of real trend.

We'll have to wait and see. Maybe you will be surprised. Today I heard a RW journalist convince an Abbott supporter that the AC Nielson polls were usually very accurate.

Not really... Morgan is probably the worst of the bigger pollsters.

Galaxy is the most accurate.

so far... his visit to Indonesia went very well or have you forgotten that?

So waht has he done so wrong then mantra.... come on... put up or shut up.

We take our car to a panel beater to get a nice new paint job. We get it home and they've missed a couple of spots. What do we do about it...........

a) take it back and get the job finished properly or.....

b) don't take it back and say "it'll be right mate" and then a year later the missed areas have started rusting out, but the warranty has expired.

Abbott is the customer who chose option b. First... not even a close analogy.

If Abbott had been in the slightest bit professional he has been... - firstly he wouldn't have snubbed the local journalists you mean the Indonesian journalists? you wanker it was a beat up and hardly anyone there is worried about his office calling a conference for our local media... or are you ignorant of this fact. and secondly - he would have made an effort to patch all this spy business up what the fuk are you talking about? what do you think the government not just abbott that isn't how things work have been doing? in order to move forward with his No. 1 election promise - to stop the people smugglers. Indonesia made this about people smuggling not Abbott... you idiot, the media made it about people smugglers, labor and the greens made it about people smugglers not Abbott. Instead he's got much of Indonesia baying for his blood and their refusal to co-operate. Really a bunch of extremist nationalists and suddenly it's all of Indonesia.

The longer this stand off is allowed to fester - the more unpopular Abbott will become. Well that's obviously the ABC and the progressive Left's plan. He needs to get his act together now rather than later. So what do you think he should have done/do? You are like Plibersek you have no idea, you are a sheep mouthing the rhetoric and no clue.

[IQS.RLOW]

Poor Moantra, how will she handle being wrong yet again? She gets a faint glimmer of hope nearly 3 years out from an election and she drools like Bob Brown being raped by a Tasmanian fir tree being thrusted by smelly dreadlocked hippies.

Poll Bludger suggests scepticism is warranted:
Full tables including state breakdowns ... offer at least some ammunition for those of a mind to be skeptical about the result.... [T]here are approximate two-party preferred swings to Labor of 2% in New South Wales, 4% in Victoria and 1.5% in South Australia, all of which are easy enough to believe. However, in both Queensland and Western Australia the swings are 11%, the former result coming less than two weeks after an 800-sample poll by Galaxy showed no swing at all. There's no way there would be an 11% swing in WA. The ALP are still the most hated bunch of turds, federally they will never have any support It’s tempting to infer that Nielsen struck Labor-heavy samples in these states, and that had it been otherwise the result would have been more like 50-50.


UPDATE

Even more reason to be sceptical. Reader Gavin H says Peter Lewis of Essential Research has told the ABC that tomorrow’s Essential poll will have the Coalition holding the same 53-47 lead over Labor it’s had for a while.

Suck it, sour face.

[mantra]

Poor Moantra, how will she handle being wrong yet again? She gets a faint glimmer of hope nearly 3 years out from an election and she drools like Bob Brown being raped by a Tasmanian fir tree being thrusted by smelly dreadlocked hippies.

Poll Bludger suggests scepticism is warranted:
Full tables including state breakdowns ... offer at least some ammunition for those of a mind to be skeptical about the result.... [T]here are approximate two-party preferred swings to Labor of 2% in New South Wales, 4% in Victoria and 1.5% in South Australia, all of which are easy enough to believe. However, in both Queensland and Western Australia the swings are 11%, the former result coming less than two weeks after an 800-sample poll by Galaxy showed no swing at all. There's no way there would be an 11% swing in WA. The ALP are still the most hated bunch of turds, federally they will never have any support It’s tempting to infer that Nielsen struck Labor-heavy samples in these states, and that had it been otherwise the result would have been more like 50-50.


UPDATE

Even more reason to be sceptical. Reader Gavin H says Peter Lewis of Essential Research has told the ABC that tomorrow’s Essential poll will have the Coalition holding the same 53-47 lead over Labor it’s had for a while.

Suck it, sour face.

You made some extremely derogatory comments about poll bludger, especially when Monk used their figures. Now you're using it to back up your typically useless response. Make up your mind.