Abbott the quiet achiever...

[Hebe]

We aren't whining at all. We're looking for achievements. And so far there have been none. You don't need Parliament to have sat for there to be some action.

And by the way, your constant referral to "leftards" just makes you look Ill-informed, blindly prejudiced and shallow. Try and respond with some facts and dignity, if you can find any.

Really.... oct 2012 2000+ asylum seekers oct 2013 300+ asylum seekers

You keep forgetting Parliament hasn't met yet, and apparently ignore the rest.
Abbott went to Indonesia and met with world leaders and we are all still good friends, even if your lot said we wouldn't be.
cooperation between Australia and Indonesia has improved re Asylum seekers since the change of government.
legislation for the removal of the carbon tax and the MRRT has been drawn up.
I'm hearing a lot of whining and reading a lot of crap from the Progs on many sites.
We all remember labor's greatest achievement... betraying the majority of Australians by bringing in a tax they told us they wouldn't.

Good friends with Indonesia are we?

http://www.theage.com.au/world/indonesi ... 2wx56.html

They don't seem to think so.

[Rorschach]

yes we are actually...

if you bothered to keep up with reality instead of pandering to populist party politics in Indonesia due to their upcoming election you'd know better.

[IQS.RLOW]

The live export debacle did more harm to Australia's relationship with Indonesia than anything you can manage to drag up from the pages of the "Socialist Alliance Journalist Training Paper"

Really, you do need to get out a bit and read more than that garbage Hebe. I though you were semi-educated?

[Hebe]

Is that the best you can do? Post a cartoon?

Can you substantiate YOUR claim?

[IQS.RLOW]

Is that the best you can do? Post a cartoon?

Can you substantiate YOUR claim?

Is that the best you can do? Ignore the biggest insult ever perpetuated on our closest Asian neighbour by threatening their food security because of a TV show from a bunch of known extremists?

[Hebe]

Normal hostilities to resume in the morning.

[Rorschach]

Is that the best you can do? Post a cartoon?

Can you substantiate YOUR claim?

If you'd watched tv read newspapers and been current on politics and current affairs there'd be no need for me to do anything.

I was actually referring to his comments re Asylum seekers, he is ramping up the anti-Australian rhetoric due to the elections, you do know that at least right?

As for the spying... you think IF its going on, it's just started under the new government? hmmm...

“We have to review our co-operation, our information exchange with the two countries concerned, both the US and Australia, because if they did gather information out of the official framework, the question is what is the use of the official framework.

IF right...

ps. America is an Indonesian ally too.

[Neferti]

Normal hostilities to resume in the morning.

It's a Political Forum, Hebe. Please don't take offence. This is a very small community and mostly we have "known" each other for a while now so the "spats" are par for the course. Should someone annoy you enough put them on "ignore" (foes list) Meanwhile, hang around as I am sure that Tony Abbott will do something you won't like. He certainly isn't announcing anything that even we Righties could get upset about ... so far.

[Hebe]

Thanks Nef.

[Neferti]

Thanks Nef.

You are welcome. Think up some topics in other areas ..... We can agree to disagree on politics but I am sure we all have similar tastes in something.