Who discovered America?

[Neferti]

http://www.news.com.au/world-news/histo ... 6735521713

I have watched programs on this before. Columbus discovered Cuba (maybe Florida) ... around that area if you check his maps of voyage. Anyway, it has been well known for eons that the Chinese had sailed in that direction. Now someone has written a book about it.




Chat among yourselves ...........

PS Some 10 years ago I had a great discussion with an American who was positive that the Lost City of Atlanta was situated near Florida!

[Rorschach]

Atlanta isn't lost ask AiA...

[Neferti]

Atlanta isn't lost ask AiA...

Atlantis. The Yank was still arguing that it sunk off the coast of Florida.

[freediver]

I discovered America about 10 years ago.

[boxy]

Were the natives friendly?

[AiA in Atlanta]

There was another book published some years back with the same premise that the Chinese pre-dated Columbus on the east of present day America by a few years. But the real discoverers, if it is true, are the Ice Age hunters that followed the icy coastline from Europe in small boats.

[Neferti]

The Yanks celebrate Columbus Day. Around this time of year. They actually think Christopher Columbus discovered the USA. He didn't, he found what is now CUBA and perhaps a bit of South America.

Ah well. Captain Cook didn't discover Australia either, did he. He discovered New Zealand and shipwrecked himself on some rocks on Van Diemen's Land ....... or something.

[AiA in Atlanta]

I think it was the Italian community that pushed for Columbus Day so they would have a hero of their own to be proud of ... generally nobody gives a fuck about Columbus Day and most people don't get a holiday from work on that day ... some schools are closed, banks, some public offices ... that is it.

[Neferti]

There was another book published some years back with the same premise that the Chinese pre-dated Columbus on the east of present day America by a few years. But the real discoverers, if it is true, are the Ice Age hunters that followed the icy coastline from Europe in small boats.

Yes! The Maps of CC's travels show he did not go anywhere near the US of A ....he found Cuba and around there and South America. Chinese "boats" headed that way but they weren't that clever. Nothing to take/see, I presume. So they went back home.

Then there were those who trudged across various Continents, way, way back in their fur coats and footwear.

Archaeologists are onto it. They can even prove things via DNA these days.

[Neferti]

I think it was the Italian community that pushed for Columbus Day so they would have a hero of their own to be proud of ... generally nobody gives a fuck about Columbus Day and most people don't get a holiday from work on that day ... some schools are closed, banks, some public offices ... that is it.

Do you mean that people who migrated eons ago and now with children and grandchildren who are born Americans for generations still call themselves Italian-americans?

I would think that Italians, Greeks and so forth that migrated to Australia after WW2 would be insulted if anyone called them Greek-Australians or Italian-Australians. They call themselves AUSSIES. They know where their roots lie but Australia is HOME to them. No regrets. I hear an Edith Piaf song coming on.

Non, Je ne regrette rien

There you go!

What happens to people born in, say, Australia and because their parents move to America and their children go to school and University there ,,,, are they Australian-Americans? Do they still call themselves Aussie?

Its the smell of eucalyptus and/or Magpies, isn't it?