Palmer's PUP

[Rorschach]

oh dear...
yes there seems to be a lot more areas more "disadvantaged" doesn't there.
I think you'll find the scale is about disadvantage. it's used by governments to help redress and prioritise services.
I think you''l find Blacktown is one of the largest localities in Australia by population much larger than those inner city areas you cherry picked.
I think you'll find I never said it was the most advantaged area in NSW.
Lots of other areas below Blacktown there mel.
Oh and I think you'll find Blacktown sits around about the middle of the list... not the best but not the worst, much more lower socio economic areas according to you then, below eh... not that your list is actually a measure of that.
Blacktown (C) 968.5
Muswellbrook (A) 968.2
Corowa Shire (A) 967.8
Holroyd (C) 965.6
Boorowa (A) 963.8
Griffith (C) 963.7
Gundagai (A) 961.6
Mid Western Regional (A) 961.5
Tamworth Regional (A) 959.9
Tweed (A) 958.5
Coffs Harbour (C) 958.4
Wentworth (A) 957.4
Cobar (A) 956.7
Eurobodalla (A) 955.8
Temora (A) 955.6
Shoalhaven (C) 954.6
Leeton (A) 954.5
Tumbarumba (A) 954.3
Berrigan (A) 954.1
Narrabri (A) 953.4
Lismore (C) 952.7
Bombala (A) 952.5
Wyong (A) 951.7
Goulburn Mulwaree (A) 951.4
Tumut Shire (A) 951.3
Gloucester (A) 951.0
Liverpool (C) 951.0
Bellingen (A) 950.1
Young (A) 947.3
Forbes (A) 946.8
Gunnedah (A) 946.7
Balranald (A) 946.2
Bogan (A) 946.1
Weddin (A) 945.0
Campbelltown (C) 944.8
Parkes (A) 943.5
Harden (A) 941.9
Junee (A) 941.7
Deniliquin (A) 941.6
Cootamundra (A) 941.5
Warren (A) 941.2
Gwydir (A) 939.9
Lachlan (A) 938.1
Urana (A) 937.1
Cessnock (C) 936.4
Bourke (A) 932.6
Great Lakes (A) 932.3
Bankstown (C) 931.7
Guyra (A) 931.0
Murrumbidgee (A) 928.3
Cowra (A) 928.0
Hay (A) 927.0
Narromine (A) 926.6
Narrandera (A) 925.2
Lithgow (C) 924.2
Canterbury (C) 922.0
Glen Innes Severn (A) 921.8
Inverell (A) 921.4
Liverpool Plains (A) 921.3
Clarence Valley (A) 919.4
Auburn (C) 916.7
Tenterfield (A) 915.4
Moree Plains (A) 915.1
Greater Taree (C) 913.7
Warrumbungle Shire (A) 911.3
Gilgandra (A) 910.6
Kyogle (A) 907.1
Nambucca (A) 900.0
Broken Hill (C) 899.6
Richmond Valley (A) 899.5
Wellington (A) 893.2
Kempsey (A) 879.7
Coonamble (A) 879.6
Walgett (A) 856.2
Fairfield (C) 854.0
Central Darling (A) 824.4
Brewarrina (A)

[Rorschach]

I'll tell you what Clive did with his money... he bombarded the place with positive adds spoken so quickly you be hard pressed to keep up let alone comprehend everything being promised.
It's possible that in Qld people are much more parochial that in NSW... eg; kevin and wayne are still in parliament.
It's possible thanks to the negative labor campaign against the LNP based on Newman's government people were afraid to risk the Coalition and didn't want labor either and the protest vote went to Clive.

I don't think there are more dumb poor people in Fairfax than in other seats in Australia.

[mellie]

I'll tell you what Clive did with his money... he bombarded the place with positive adds spoken so quickly you be hard pressed to keep up let alone comprehend everything being promised.
It's possible that in Qld people are much more parochial that in NSW... eg; kevin and wayne are still in parliament.
It's possible thanks to the negative labor campaign against the LNP based on Newman's government people were afraid to risk the Coalition and didn't want labor either and the protest vote went to Clive.

I don't think there are more dumb poor people in Fairfax than in other seats in Australia.

I didn’t say dumb or poor, I said politically naive and receptive to his bogan campaign gibber.

I agree with you re- people in QLD being generally more patriarchal, (not so much parochial which denotes to narrow-mindedness and the church) however he was quite selective with respects to the areas he distributed his DVD's... most areas were poorer low soc-ec/disadvantaged areas with higher than the national average unemployment and crime.
Like it or not, the Blacktown area scores high in terms of unemployment and social disadvantage

The more affluent areas are, the more educated and politically decided they are also, thus wouldn’t have been as receptive to this clowns buffoonery as some of our more disadvantaged suburbs.

Clive knew exactly what he was doing, would have paid someone to scope the field for him before distributing his DVD's.
Labor and the Greens probably told him which areas to target, given they stood to advantage from him gaining turf in their marginal battler electorates, better him than Abbott they probably thought.

[mellie]

I was referring to the more disadvantaged areas in major cities ie Sydney Roach.
Blacktown may not be the most disadvantaged area in Sydney....but i'll bet Palmer made sure he targeted those which were along with Blacktown which scores quite high in terms of social disadvantage and high unemployment.


Furthermore... I am inclined to think Palmer distributed his DVD's on the Sunshine Coasts less affluent areas also.

I cant imagine him dumping his DVD's on the Sunshine Coasts more privileged waterfront addresses/estates..can you?

[Black Orchid]

however he was quite selective with respects to the areas he distributed his DVD's... most areas were poorer low soc-ec/disadvantaged areas with higher than the national average unemployment and crime.

Not quite true I am afraid. Upper and lower north shore got the DVDs as did people in the eastern suburbs.

[mellie]

however he was quite selective with respects to the areas he distributed his DVD's... most areas were poorer low soc-ec/disadvantaged areas with higher than the national average unemployment and crime.

Not quite true I am afraid. Upper and lower north shore got the DVDs as did people in the eastern suburbs.

Evidence?

[mellie]

Palmer United party: who voted for them?




http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablo ... mer-united

The author of this article seems to have arrived at the same conclusion I have re- the demographics on who voted PUP, only I didn’t pour over figures to reach my conclusion, it was already quite apparent for all to see I though.


No brainer.

[Aussie]

mellie is a dumb fuck of the first order. Fisher and Fairfax had been LNP jewels, strongholds for decades. I notice she was not then complaining about the ignorance or naivety of voters.

PUP made inroads into LNP Land because of two broad factors:

(a) The low regard in which voters held Slipper/Brough and Somlyay. You all know enough of why the first two are on the nose, and to tell you that Somlyay was known here as Submarine Somlyay (only ever appeared during elections.......the rest of the time he was playing golf) ought paint the picture.

(b) In all the years of LNP representation, the Sunshine Coast was ignored by the LNP. They took it for granted, as theirs by right.

PUP's own research was telling Clive he was having a real impact, and the Libs did not wake up to just how well he was doing until towards the end of the last week of the campaign. By then, the damage had been done.

Sure, Brough won Fisher but his grip is now far more tenuous, and if he gets hit hard as I expect him to be when the Ashby Appeal decision is given, and if he is prosecuted as being a party to the theft of Slipper's Diary, and when he loses the defamation action Clive has taken against him, he is gone. A by-election will see PUP well back in the hunt there.

Clive may lose in Fairfax. But, it is all win win for us, as the Government might now get off its arse and put some genuine effort in here. Money needs to be spent on transport infrastructure, and the Airport up-graded. It is absurd that you can only fly out of here in a southerly direction, and even then only to Sydney and Melbourne.

I also accept some of the lunatic's critical remarks concerning Clive......I think Beattie is right ~ if you want to know how Clive will use his considerable political muscle, you need only establish what is good for Clive. From the Sunshine Coast's point of view, I reckon that is fine, because here, what is good for Clive will also be good for us.

[mellie]

Fact, the reason why PUP was so successful was because Labor performed so badly.

Fairfax was just one marginal Lib seat .... now how many seats did Libs lose compared to Labor across Australia again Aussie?




Read it Aussie.

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablo ... mer-united

[Black Orchid]

however he was quite selective with respects to the areas he distributed his DVD's... most areas were poorer low soc-ec/disadvantaged areas with higher than the national average unemployment and crime.

Not quite true I am afraid. Upper and lower north shore got the DVDs as did people in the eastern suburbs.

Evidence?

If you lived there you would have had the evidence delivered to your letterbox