Mars Venus..

[Auzgurl]

What do we think of this ..?

What does it mean when you men go into your caves..your secret hurt place?

What can the girls do to bring you out of your cave..save poking you with a firestick .?

Are men and women really that different to each other?

[Ethnic]

Enough of the gender wars please!

[Auzgurl]

make love not war

[Auzgurl]

The cave thing:

When men go into their cave, they are actually going through a phase of their relationship with a woman, when they want to be left alone. Any woman who has wondered why a boyfriend is not emailing/calling/messaging/meeting her will know what it feels like to be shut out of the cave. Women and 'the wave' is a concept [which] means that women go through periodic phases when they are unable to keep up their spirits without help and assistance from understanding men. At such times, 'the wave' crashes, and it needs to be given love and reassurance to rise up again with its usual confidence.

What do the boys do in the cave..drink beer, shoot pool?

[Auzgurl]

and you thought I was gone..
John Grey...do you agree with this?

Men get our sense of self from achievement. We tend to be task-oriented, and being self-reliant is very important to us. You put those two together, and you get people who hate to ask for directions or for help. I'll wander in a store for 15 minutes trying to find something on my own because accomplishing the task of getting a certain item isn't going to be satisfying unless I can do it on my own. For us, asking for help is an admission of failure; we see it as a weakness.

So do you ask for help in a store men? I mean Im exploring the big questions here you understand?

Women get our sense of self from relationships. Where men are task-oriented, we are relational-oriented. Our connections to other people are the most important thing to us. Instead of prizing self- reliance, we tend to be inter-dependent, enjoying the connectedness to other people, especially other women. For us, both asking for help and offering it is a compliment; we're saying, "Let me build a bridge between us. I value you, and it'll bind us ."

Us girls like to bond in the pub or hitting the shops etc..other women make me puke sometimes..so connecting with them is not my idea of bonding.

[Ethnic]

What do the boys do in the cave..drink beer, shoot pool?

If they're in there with other men then I don't wanna know!

If men are not calling/emailing/talking to their partners, then they're bums. Real men never ignore their better halves.

[Auzgurl]

John Gray says they do and when they explore theyre feelings fully," they emerge from the cave and engage us.".but we cannot ever interrupt this cave time as it is how men reconnect with us and the world.

How many women have grown old waiting for the blokes to come out of fucking caves huh?

[Ethnic]

John Gray says they do and when they explore theyre feelings fully," they emerge from the cave and engage us.".but we cannot ever interrupt this cave time as it is how men reconnect with us and the world.

How many women have grown old waiting for the blokes to come out of fucking caves huh?

Too many. That's why IVF is so popular.

[Jovial Monk]

Don't wait for blokes to come out of their caves (sheds?) just strip off and run in!