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ACT introduces Marriage Equality Bill

Post by Neferti » Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:21 pm

ACT introduces Marriage Equality Bill into Legislative Assembly.

Again! They tried it when Howard as PM, if I remember correctly. The ACT Assembly obviously doesn't understand Section 51 of the Australian Constitution.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-19/a ... mb/4967000

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Re: ACT introduces Marriage Equality Bill

Post by Rorschach » Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:02 pm

they are not representative of the wider Austraian population.
maybe we could turn it into a muslim enclave that'll put an end to it permanently.
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Re: ACT introduces Marriage Equality Bill

Post by Neferti » Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:09 pm

I happen to live here. It's a Labor town, due to the Public Service and Academic population of beards and sandal wearers.

However, the ACT Legislative Assembly can do whatever they like about pot holes, and round abouts but Section 51 of the Australian Constitution states that Marriage is a Federal matter.

For those who do NOT know about Section 51 .... here it is:
Part V.--Powers of the Parliament.

51. The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws for the peace, order, and good government of the Commonwealth with respect to:

(i. ) Trade and commerce with other countries, and among the States:

(ii. ) Taxation; but so as not to discriminate between States or parts of States:

(iii. ) Bounties on the production or export of goods, but so that such bounties shall be uniform throughout the Commonwealth:

(iv. ) Borrowing money on the public credit of the Commonwealth:

(v. ) Postal, telegraphic, telephonic, and other like services:

(vi. ) The naval and military defence of the Commonwealth and of the several States, and the control of the forces to execute and maintain the laws of the Commonwealth:

(vii. ) Lighthouses, lightships, beacons and buoys:

(viii. ) Astronomical and meteorological observations:

(ix. ) Quarantine:

(x. ) Fisheries in Australian waters beyond territorial limits:

(xi. ) Census and statistics:

(xii. ) Currency, coinage, and legal tender:

(xiii. ) Banking, other than State banking; also State banking extending beyond the limits of the State concerned, the incorporation of banks, and the issue of paper money:

(xiv. ) Insurance, other than State insurance; also State insurance extending beyond the limits of the State concerned:

(xv. ) Weights and measures:

(xvi. ) Bills of exchanging and promissory notes:

(xvii. ) Bankruptcy and insolvency:

(xviii. ) Copyrights, patents of inventions and designs, and trade marks:

(xix. ) Naturalisation and aliens:

(xx. ) Foreign corporations, and trading or financial corporations formed within the limits of the Commonwealth:

(xxi. ) Marriage:

(xxii. ) Divorce and matrimonial causes; and in relation thereto, parental rights, and the custody and guardianship of infants:

(xxiii. ) Invalid and old-age pensions:

(xxiiiA. ) The provision of maternity allowances, widows' pensions, child endowment, unemployment, pharmaceutical, sickness and hospital benefits, medical and dental services (but not so as to authorise any form of civil conscription), benefits to students and family allowances:

(xxiv. ) The service and execution throughout the Commonwealth of the civil and criminal process and the judgments of the courts of the States:

(xxv. ) The recognition throughout the Commonwealth of the laws, the public Acts and records, and the judicial proceedings of the States:

(xxvi. ) The people of any race, for whom it is deemed necessary to make special laws:

(xxvii. ) Immigration and emigration:

(xxviii. ) The influx of criminals:

(xxix. ) External Affairs:

(xxx. ) The relations of the Commonwealth with the islands of the Pacific:

(xxxi. ) The acquisition of property on just terms from any State or person for any purpose in respect of which the Parliament has power to make laws:

(xxxii. ) The control of railways with respect to transport for the naval and military purposes of the Commonwealth:

(xxxiii. ) The acquisition, with the consent of a State, of any railways of the State on terms arranged between the Commonwealth and the State:

(xxxiv. ) Railway construction and extension in any State with the consent of that State:

(xxxv. ) Conciliation and arbitration for the prevention and settlement of industrial disputes extending beyond the limits of any one State:

(xxxvi. ) Matters in respect of which this Constitution makes provision until the Parliament otherwise provides:

(xxxvii. ) Matters referred to the Parliament of the Commonwealth by the Parliament or Parliaments of any State or States, but so that the law shall extend only to States by whose Parliaments the matter is referred, or which afterwards adopt the law:

(xxxviii. ) The exercise within the Commonwealth, at the request or with the concurrence of the Parliaments of all the States directly concerned, of any power which can at the establishment of this Constitution be exercised only by the Parliament of the United Kingdom or by the Federal Council of Australasia:

(xxxix. ) Matters incidental to the execution of any power vested by this Constitution in the Parliament or in either House thereof, or in the Government of the Commonwealth, or in the Federal Judicature, or in any department or officer of the Commonwealth.
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Re: ACT introduces Marriage Equality Bill

Post by assmen clincher » Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:11 pm

ACT now known as fag city


bet Sydney world number 2 fag city in world is upset....bet Sydney love the number 2!
now number 2 in Australia

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Re: ACT introduces Marriage Equality Bill

Post by mellie » Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:31 pm

Neferti~ wrote:ACT introduces Marriage Equality Bill into Legislative Assembly.

Again! They tried it when Howard as PM, if I remember correctly. The ACT Assembly obviously doesn't understand Section 51 of the Australian Constitution.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-19/a ... mb/4967000

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Re: ACT introduces Marriage Equality Bill

Post by assmen clincher » Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:40 pm

mellie wrote: The ACT is a foreign country, they do things differently there.

its all an act in the ACT
to appeal to the carpet munchers and pillow biters

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Re: ACT introduces Marriage Equality Bill

Post by Chard » Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:59 pm

Neferti~ wrote:ACT introduces Marriage Equality Bill into Legislative Assembly.

Again! They tried it when Howard as PM, if I remember correctly. The ACT Assembly obviously doesn't understand Section 51 of the Australian Constitution.
Depending on ACT's reasoning for wanting to grant all of their citizens the same rights and protects under law, I could make one hell of an argument that Chapter V, Section 116 could be used as a justification as most arguments against allowing gays to marry same as straights are based on religious belief.
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Re: ACT introduces Marriage Equality Bill

Post by Aussie » Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:04 pm

Chard wrote:
Neferti~ wrote:ACT introduces Marriage Equality Bill into Legislative Assembly.

Again! They tried it when Howard as PM, if I remember correctly. The ACT Assembly obviously doesn't understand Section 51 of the Australian Constitution.
Depending on ACT's reasoning for wanting to grant all of their citizens the same rights and protects under law, I could make one hell of an argument that Chapter V, Section 116 could be used as a justification as most arguments against allowing gays to marry same as straights are based on religious belief.
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Re: ACT introduces Marriage Equality Bill

Post by IQS.RLOW » Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:21 pm

The marriage act is a federal responsibility.
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Re: ACT introduces Marriage Equality Bill

Post by Chard » Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:45 pm

Aussie wrote:Go ahead, make my day.
If your basis for restricting gays from having the same rights as straights is an arbitrary religious standard then you're making a de facto establishment of religion, which is forbidden under Chapter V, Section 116. The exact same argument was made successfully here, as the religious underpinning for the Defense of Marriage Act and state level marriage laws are all based on religious belief, violating the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights of the US Constitution. I'm pretty sure if anyone in ACT has even half a brain they're hoping that your Federal government attempts to strike down their state level legislation in order to force the issue to your equivalent of the our US Supreme Court. After all, that's what multiple civil rights groups did here and you guys are so damn keen on doing what we do.
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