What will replace the Lieberal Party?
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Re: What will replace the Lieberal Party?
Howard with his lying and wedging gave the Fibs a decade of govt, but did not solve their long term dilemma. This is an excellent post from PB:
The remolding of the party has left it with people thinking they are extreme, dishonest, out of touch etc etc, an immediate problem they have to face as well as dealing with the longer term demographic trap. What do we find? An absorption with the Eunuch and whether he wants to become Leader. Fiddling while Rome burns indeed!The Crisis of identity and purpose in the Liberal party evident in the late 80s/early 90s which was masked by the Howard ascendency is now out there for all to see.
Howard’s comment that the Liberal party’s problems could all be fixed by an election win can now be seen for the hollow claim that it was. His absolute selfishness in remoulding the party in his image has made a dire situation worse. There appears to be no way back.
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Re: What will replace the Lieberal Party?
You are pulling your dick.
It's all part of the cycle. Labor are just having their turn because enough people got sick of the other lot. If they're lucky/wiley/dishonest enough their turn will last about 10 years then it'll swing back to Liberal again.
It's all part of the cycle. Labor are just having their turn because enough people got sick of the other lot. If they're lucky/wiley/dishonest enough their turn will last about 10 years then it'll swing back to Liberal again.
You vote, you lose!
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Re: What will replace the Lieberal Party?
And the Greens will wait, and wait and ...................................................................wait.
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Re: What will replace the Lieberal Party?
Even Peter Garret could not wait for the Greens.
Oh I sold out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh I sold out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: What will replace the Lieberal Party?
Yes thank God for that! What a liability that man would have been for them.JW Frogen wrote:Even Peter Garret could not wait for the Greens.
Oh I sold out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: What will replace the Lieberal Party?
Yep, I'll bet the Greens are pleased peter took the bus to bondi, oh oh the power and the passion, and now he's part of government and still the beds are burning, short memory must have a short memory.mantra wrote:Yes thank God for that! What a liability that man would have been for them.JW Frogen wrote:Even Peter Garret could not wait for the Greens.
Oh I sold out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: What will replace the Lieberal Party?
He achieved more as a musical activist.
The better I get to know people, the more I find myself loving dogs.
Re: What will replace the Lieberal Party?
Peter Garrett is growing in his Ministerial/Parliamentary responsibilities.
The near conclusion of the long running saga called the Coalition’s Demographic Train Wreck.
As Gen Blue dies off the Fib support base will slip. Possum shows that the very young drop a tad in their support for Labor (57% down to 55%) but after that there is little movement to the Coalition, pretty consistent 54% support to ALP (slightest of declines, 55 to 53% ALP over three 10 year age cohorts.)
There is no real data to break the 60+ into smaller groups, but Possum shows various scenarios to check the hypothesis over the next 2-3 elections. The longer Rudd holds off calling the next election the more blue hairs will pop off and take their Coalition vote with them. Increasing the pension hasn't hurt his support from that age bracket either!
The near conclusion of the long running saga called the Coalition’s Demographic Train Wreck.
As Gen Blue dies off the Fib support base will slip. Possum shows that the very young drop a tad in their support for Labor (57% down to 55%) but after that there is little movement to the Coalition, pretty consistent 54% support to ALP (slightest of declines, 55 to 53% ALP over three 10 year age cohorts.)
There is no real data to break the 60+ into smaller groups, but Possum shows various scenarios to check the hypothesis over the next 2-3 elections. The longer Rudd holds off calling the next election the more blue hairs will pop off and take their Coalition vote with them. Increasing the pension hasn't hurt his support from that age bracket either!
Re: What will replace the Lieberal Party?
The increase in the pension is the biggest increase in history, good on him for that, I think it will give him a few extra votes from the blue rinse set they can all see now that Labor do care more for pensioners than the Libs ever will.
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