Minor party Preferences

[mantra]

True democracy should be represented with the optional preferential system.

If you mean that you have the choice of allocating preferences or just voting for one candidate, I'm with you on that.

It still isn't fair. One candidate might get 1000 single votes - another might get 2. The candidate who only gets 2 votes can end up with 1003 preferences and gain the seat - even if he/she or the party has been listed last on the voting ballot. They can win a seat on preferences - not popularity.

[mantra]

Greens are Labor, regardless of what they try to tell us. The sooner they disappear, the better.

The Greens are not Labor otherwise they would not have broken away from them. If the Greens disappear and Labor loses a whole lot of seats - we'll end up with only one viable party - the Libs.

How will that work in a supposed democracy?

[Rorschach]

True democracy should be represented with the optional preferential system.

If you mean that you have the choice of allocating preferences or just voting for one candidate, I'm with you on that.

that is a valid option in the accepted practice

[Rorschach]

as for mantra's high dudgeon...
using your idea there could be say 20 candidates and one could win with 6% of the vote...
hardly democratic or fair on the other 94% of the voters.

But then that is how The Greens manage to get in isn't it.

[mantra]

as for mantra's high dudgeon...
using your idea there could be say 20 candidates and one could win with 6% of the vote...
hardly democratic or fair on the other 94% of the voters.

But then that is how The Greens manage to get in isn't it.

The Greens came in at about 14% at the last election. Maybe you could also have mentioned Steve Fielding who totalled 200 votes and held the balance of power federally - and in NSW the Shooters party only had 2% and can now hold NSW to ransom.

[Rorschach]

I hardly think Fielding is current do you?
and we were talking federal.

[mellie]

Mel ‏@mellisme 1m

@CliveFPalmer @PalmerUtdParty @KRuddMP Your fake airport Rudd stand-off & media opportunity has failed to distance you from your mate Rudd.

So obvious.

[mantra]

I hardly think Fielding is current do you?

It was one example.

and we were talking federal.

I specifically mentioned NSW and didn't infer it was Federal, but just another example.

[Aldebaran5]

I hardly think Fielding is current do you?
and we were talking federal.

I guess that it's still relevant when talking about voting systems though.

[Rorschach]

Except that state and federal have different systems and hence context needs to be relevant and mantra's was not..