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Re: Should Australia become a republic?

Post by Rorschach » Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:23 pm

sigh... too many words for you teddy...?

Howard Florey and his dedicated team's systematic, detailed work transformed penicillin from an interesting observation into a life saver.

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Re: Should Australia become a republic?

Post by mellie » Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:33 pm

No, again you are wrong.
Howard Walter Florey, OM, FRS (24 September 1898 - 21 February 1968) was an Australian pharmacologist and pathologist who shared the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1945 with Sir Ernst Boris Chain and Sir Alexander Fleming for his role in the making of penicillin.

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Re: Should Australia become a republic?

Post by ted » Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:36 pm

Remember Fleming discovered penicillin in 1928

Later Fleming worked with Florey and Chain

So there you have it
Fleming Known for discovery of penicillin (everyone knows this)
And in 1938, thats 10 years after Fleming discovered penicillin, Florey was guided by Fleming working with Ernst Boris Chain and Norman Heatley, and read Fleming's paper discussing the antibacterial effects of Penicillium notatum mould.
Florey Known for discovery of penicillin's properties
Chain Known for penicillin

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Re: Should Australia become a republic?

Post by mellie » Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:41 pm

http://www.abc.net.au/science/slab/florey/story.htm

Fleming noticed the moulds antimicrobial properties, but it was a decade later when an Australian ..... anyway, read the above.

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Re: Should Australia become a republic?

Post by ted » Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:44 pm

Yes Fleming discovered penicillin


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Re: Should Australia become a republic?

Post by mellie » Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:46 pm

He took Flemings research to the level required to bring us perhaps the most important medical discovery of our time....did Fleming do this alone?

Just after having observed a mouldy orange?

No, he did not.

It was a group achievement. Hence the group received formal recognition by receiving a 'group' Nobel Prize.

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Re: Should Australia become a republic?

Post by ted » Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:51 pm

And Alexander Graham bell didnt invent the telephonecause he didnt know howto use it, instead the inventor of the telpehone went to gasbagger gertie :c

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Re: Should Australia become a republic?

Post by mellie » Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:55 pm

ted wrote:Fleming discovered penicillin (fact)
make sure you rinse out those diapers bedwetter

Fleming discovered a fuzz that appeared to have antimicrobial properties, then left it at that.
I'll bet he wasn’t the only one to have realised the benefits of a mouldy poultice, housewives and nurses had been using antimicrobial poultices for years. Some made out of bread.
Were they perhaps who discovered penicillin?
Plenty of substances have antimicrobial properties, but did Fleming realise what he had discovered was the most important medical discovery of all time, penicillin?

No. Or else someone else wouldn’t have had to do so a decade later.

Fleming, whilst he made an observation, and quite by accident, had no idea that what he had discovered was penicillin.

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Re: Should Australia become a republic?

Post by ted » Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:00 pm

Fact: Alexander Fleming discovered penicillin
Even Florey acknowleded that Fleming discovered penicillin
to suggest otherwise shows disrespect

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Re: Should Australia become a republic?

Post by mellie » Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:10 pm

ted wrote:Fact: Alexander Fleming discovered penicillin
Even Florey acknowleded that Fleming discovered penicillin
to suggest otherwise shows disrespect
Like I said, it was a joint effort... naturally he credited the scientist who happened upon the mould, ....but the same could be said for the nurses and housewives who had been using mouldy poultices on septic wounds well before Fleming found a fuzzy orange.

8-) .... And had our clever and resourceful Australian scientist not undertaken research of his own, based on what was a mere observation a decade before, we would not have penicillin today...rather would have just a mouldy orange.

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