Should Australia become a republic?

[Chard]

I asked this months ago of the cretins over on OzPol and never got anything close to a satisfactory answer. Maybe you people might get it right...

In your own words define the following:

1. What is a "republic".

2. Briefly describe how a "republican system" works for deciding elections.

True False:

1. If you live in a republic you cannot have royalty.

3. In a republic I have no say in deciding what politicians can become candidates on an election ballot.

Extra Credit:

Give a two paragraph explanation of why you think the Parliamentary system is the gayer than a football bat.

[Jovial_Monk]

1. A republic is where people rule themselves—no hereditary ruler or clique or rule by Army generals

2. There are various republic models. For Australia I favor

2.1. Executive government and the legislature elected as now
2.2. Every 6 years the election includes an election for President & Deputy

A republic by definition excludes a hereditary Head of State. You have as much right as anybody to stand.

[Chard]

So you're telling me:

A. You don't really know what a republic is or how one might work beyond the broadest of general definitions.

B. You don't know the answers to any of the other questions I asked.

Super... Y'all might want to actually sit down and ponder what the fuck kind of Republican system ya want to have BEFORE you go trying to convince others that you should give up your current parliamentary system. Just sayin'.

[Rorschach]

Monk
gave it his best shot by the looks...

Moi... personally don't want to become a republic, but thanks for asking.

[Black Orchid]

I am not interested in becoming a republic at this point in time either.

OMG imagine if Gillard was our first President.

[mellie]

Constitutional monarchies are among the happiest, more stable, less corrupt in the world.
Does it surprise you that among the 10 richest countries in the world, 7 are monarchies, not republics Chard?

Australians are happier than Americans, and we'd like to keep it that way.

http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/05/28/aus ... try-again/ <---- By your own admission

Thanks, and we're happy to do business with our American allies, but Australia can do without a republic.

God bless America- 'Just Sayin'...!

[Chard]

Did you really just resurrect a thread that's been dead for a month and a half to make a post that has absolutely nothing to do with my post, Mellie? What does any of that have to do with me pointing out that no one on this board has any fucking clue what a republic actually is and is not?

Even better, your claim that the ten richest countries are Constitutional Monarchies is patently false. According to the International Monetary Fund if you go by GDP per capita the top ten nations are:

1. Qatar (Unitary Absolute Monarchy)
2. Luxembourg (Unitary parliamentary constitutional monarchy)
3. Singapore (Unitary parliamentary constitutional republic)
4. Norway (Unitary parliamentary constitutional republic)
5. Brunei (Unitary Islamic absolute monarchy)
6. United States of America(Federal presidential constitutional republic)
7. United Arab Emirates (Federal, presidential, absolute monarchy)
8. Switzerland (Directorial federal parliamentary republic)
9. Canada (Federal parliamentary democracy under constitutional monarchy)
10. Australia (Federal parliamentary constitutional monarchy).

As you can see, only three of the top ten involve Constitutional Monarchy. It gets even worse if we use absolute GDP rankings as the only Constitutional Republics in the top ten are Japan and the UK.

You do know that the numbers 2, 3, and 7 are not the same, right? I mean, I know you're probably the dumbest person here next to Monk, but surely even you can count to ten, right?

[mellie]

Did you really just resurrect a thread that's been dead for a month and a half to make a post that has absolutely nothing to do with my post, Mellie? What does any of that have to do with me pointing out that no one on this board has any fucking clue what a republic actually is and is not?

Even better, your claim that the ten richest countries are Constitutional Monarchies is patently false. According to the International Monetary Fund if you go by GDP per capita the top ten nations are:

1. Qatar (Unitary Absolute Monarchy)
2. Luxembourg (Unitary parliamentary constitutional monarchy)
3. Singapore (Unitary parliamentary constitutional republic)
4. Norway (Unitary parliamentary constitutional republic)
5. Brunei (Unitary Islamic absolute monarchy)
6. United States of America(Federal presidential constitutional republic)
7. United Arab Emirates (Federal, presidential, absolute monarchy)
8. Switzerland (Directorial federal parliamentary republic)
9. Canada (Federal parliamentary democracy under constitutional monarchy)
10. Australia (Federal parliamentary constitutional monarchy).

As you can see, only three of the top ten involve Constitutional Monarchy. It gets even worse if we use absolute GDP rankings as the only Constitutional Republics in the top ten are Japan and the UK.

You do know that the numbers 2, 3, and 7 are not the same, right? I mean, I know you're probably the dumbest person here next to Monk, but surely even you can count to ten, right?

Did you say something Chard?

No, I don’t think you did.

Anyone can become president of a republic ...for the right pri$e.
Obama, and a number of former US presidents are evidence of this fact.
No thankyou very much.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -raid.html<---- Couldn’t watch apparently, played cards instead.

Even better, your claim that the ten richest countries are Constitutional Monarchies is patently false.

- Chard

According to your one mere source, the IMF?

How about other sources, ie, IMF, World Bank, CIA....

http://gulfbusiness.com/2013/06/top-10- ... hKjULx5MxA <----Latest according to your source, IMF.

And others..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... per_capita

Note: I think your IMF figures have expired, try using more up-to-date figures in future.

[Chard]

Did you say something Chard?

So you're saying you can't count to ten then. Give you a hint, barring you ahving been in a horrible industrial accident there are five digits on each of your hands adding to a sum of ten digits. If you need to count higher then that you might have to remove your shoes first.

Anyone can become president of a republic ...for the right pri$e.
Obama, and a number of former US presidents are evidence of this fact.
No thankyou very much.

And that has what to do with your retarded assertion that seven out of the ten wealthiest nations on earth are Constitutional Monarchies? Oh, right, not a damn thing.

According to your one mere source, the IMF?

First you say "what, one source? Just the IMF?" and then you say...

How about other sources, ie, IMF, World Bank, CIA....

Seriously, you daft bitch, make up your mind. Is the IMF a valid source or not? Even better, had you even bothered to do a little research you'd know that the World Bank and the CIA both say the same thing that the IMF does with the exception of counting the EU as a single nation-state (which is highly debatable), and both the World Bank and CIA lists have only two constitutional monarchies listed, even less than the IMF source.

In any case, your claim is bullshit, so just concede the point and move on, little girl.

http://gulfbusiness.com/2013/06/top-10- ... hKjULx5MxA <----Latest according to your source, IMF.

And if you knew your ass from a hole in the ground you'd know that the list effectively is unchanged in regards to your absurd claim that seven out of ten of the nations on that list are constitutional monarchies. Even better, you followed that up with a Wiki link that again only shows you don't know anything about the governments of other nations, and that despite having the information one mere left click of the mouse away from you being able to see what kind of government each country has.

Again, do your fucking research, you stupid cow.


TL;DR: Mellie can't count her tits and get the same number two out of three times.

[mellie]

Come now Chardles, if you put as much effort into ensuring your figures were up-to-date as you do abusing those who bring your errors to your attention, who knows, you might even get a clue.

Might!



Start with listing the 10 richest countries, 2013 figures please this time thanks.

Then determine whether or not they're constitutional monarchies, republics, or otherwise.

I think where you might be getting a little confused is when a given nations system of government doesn’t strictly claim to fall within either category, ie Qatar .....or Singapore, which describes itself as a Sovereign Republic, which is just a Constitutional Monarchy re-badged.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... government


1. Luxembourg (Constitutional Monarchy)
2. Norway (Constitutional Monarchy)
3. Qatar (Absolute Monarchy)
4. Switzerland (Republic)
5. Australia(Constitutional Monarchy)
6. United Arab Emirates(Constitutional Monarchy)
7. Sweden (Constitutional Monarchy)
8.Denmark (Constitutional Monarchy)
9.Canada (Constitutional Monarchy)
10.Singapore (Republic)


The list is compiled using gross domestic product (GDP) per capita at current prices in US dollars. All the data is taken from IMF’s April 2013 World Economic Outlook Database.

http://www.imf.org/external/index.htm



Now Chardles, suck back your drool and do your homework more thoroughly next time, this isn’t a sheltered workshop.

Another link worthy of bookmarking, for comparison sakes with respects to nations systems of government and how terminology varies, depending on the source.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publication ... /2128.html