The Rudd -vrs-Abbott Debate

[Black Orchid]

Viewers of the major television networks were divided on who they believed had won - Channel Seven, Sky News and the respected Laurie Oakes gave it to Mr Abbott; the ABC and the Nine and Ten networks gave it to the Prime Minister

So Laurie gave the debate to Abbott. No mention of cheating.

For someone who continually demands evidence (but never produces any) you sure spout a lot of BS, Aussie.

[Aussie]

So far there is no proof he did.
As for the relevance of such a claim at this debate is zero.

The photographic evidence is right there! The Rules of Debate said.....no notes. Abbott had notes. So, why are you so reluctant to call Abbott a cheat, just as many are so ready to call Rudd a cheat for doing no more nor less than Abbott did?

[Black Orchid]

So far there is no proof he did.
As for the relevance of such a claim at this debate is zero.

The photographic evidence is right there! The Rules of Debate said.....no notes. Abbott had notes. So, why are you so reluctant to call Abbott a cheat, just as many are so ready to call Rudd a cheat for doing no more nor less than Abbott did?

Your photographic evidence is from 3 years ago when Abbott debated Gillard. Invalid and misleading. You said yourself that you didn't even watch the debate. If you had watched it you might have noticed that your pic was not a pic of last nights debate.

[mellie]

Apparently Abbott glancing down briefly at a blank piece of paper on his lectern constitutes for reading from notes, the way Rudd so obviously did according to poor sport Aussie, who cant accept that Rudd's notes were already placed at his lecture inside a plastic folder which his daughter Jessica scuttled off with straight after the debate.

And as for Laurie Oakes, he's the Rudd family damage control unit Chief Media advisor... what else would he say?





It was quite obvious to all, even pro-Rudd Speers, who had the notes, and who was reading from them....in hind-site apparently, after having watched the footage.

When asked about his notes during the debate, Mr Rudd said he had acted in good faith - and that no one had told him he could not use notes.

''I prefer to be as accurate as I can,'' he said.

Debate moderator, Sky political editor David Speers said that it was very hard to be absolutely sure from where he was standing during the debate that Mr Rudd was using notes.

It would have been a ''big step'' to call the Prime Minister out on the act, he told Fairfax Media on Monday.

Earlier on Monday Mr Speers told ABC radio in Sydney that he didn't pick up at the time that Mr Rudd was reading from notes - as he himself was busy writing his own notes.

''I've been copping a lot of flak on Twitter and elsewhere for not jumping in and ripping those notes off Kevin Rudd,'' Mr Speers said.

''Has he broken the rules? Well technically, yes, I think he probably has.''

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politi ... z2bk7FcgUz


Now Aussie, if as you claim Abbott too was guilty of having read from notes, feel free to provide a link to your source.


I know you wont be able to because you don’t have one.

[Aussie]

Your photographic evidence is from 3 years ago when Abbott debated Gillard. Invalid and misleading.

Not at all. It is 100% right on point. The Rules '3 years ago' were the same as those for last night.

You said yourself that you didn't even watch the debate. If you had watched it you might have noticed that your pic was not a pic of last nights debate.

I did????? I'd love to see that link.

Fact is, I watched it on 7, 9 and 2.

[Rorschach]

please provide a photo of julia's lectern from 3 years ago...
please provide evidence of the rules agreed upon on the night.

[Jovial_Monk]

roach is a moron. I said I didn’t watch the debate.

Why don’t you just leave, roach?

[Black Orchid]

roach is a moron. I said I didn’t watch the debate.

Why don’t you just leave, roach?

I said that, not Rorschach.

Perhaps you should issue an apology?

[Black Orchid]

[Rorschach]

roach is a moron. I said I didn’t watch the debate.

Why don’t you just leave, roach?

dear shitforbrains...I never said anything about you watching the debate.
I haven't addressed you
I have you on ignore most of the time
I am not very concerned about the notes issue.
I already voted that it wasn't an issue for me in a newspaper today.
Personally i think it makes Abbott look good and Rudd look weak having to work from notes.
kev can use notes all he likes he still spouts lies and errors someone more competent should write notes for him.