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Re: Largest Japanese Warship

Post by AiA in Atlanta » Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:16 am

Both North Korea and China are becoming more belligerent towards Japan. Why not push back?

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Re: Largest Japanese Warship

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Re: Largest Japanese Warship

Post by AiA in Atlanta » Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:11 pm

Bit dramatic don't you think?

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Re: Largest Japanese Warship

Post by Super Nova » Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:33 am

Don't forget the post WWII generation felt real hate towards the Japs.
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Re: Largest Japanese Warship

Post by AiA in Atlanta » Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:45 am

Young people in Korea (North and South) and China still hate Japan. These people have no first-hand knowledge of the war. This hate is being perpetuated by leaders for their own ends.

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Re: Largest Japanese Warship

Post by Chard » Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:52 am

AiA in Atlanta wrote:Both North Korea and China are becoming more belligerent towards Japan. Why not push back?
Seriously, who exactly is Japan supposed to push back again? No one is pushing at them in the first place. For fuck's sake, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe wants to change their constitution to allow for an offensive military, and even better he is pointing to the goddamn change over in the Weimar German constitution to the Nazi German constitution as an example of why they should do it. Yes, they really are the exact same barbaric warmongering motherfuckers they were 80 years ago.
Deterrence is the art of producing in the mind of the enemy the FEAR to attack. - Dr. Strangelove

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Re: Largest Japanese Warship

Post by AiA in Atlanta » Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:08 am

^^^^ North Korea lobbing test missiles over Japan ... Chinese warships entering Japanese waters ... South Korean politicians inciting citizens against Japan ... Abe is reactive, not proactive.

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Re: Largest Japanese Warship

Post by mellie » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:13 am

AiA in Atlanta wrote:Both North Korea and China are becoming more belligerent towards Japan. Why not push back?
Most Japanese failed to appreciate the significance of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s statement opposing “any unilateral actions that would seek to undermine Japanese administration of the islands.” Beijing has not missed its significance, accusing Washington of “taking sides.”
Read more: http://nation.time.com/2013/04/13/u-s-j ... z2bQC8yy4A

But understandably, Japan want their alliance set in concrete, in light of increasing tensions in the region.


China and North Korea are becoming increasingly belligerent towards the US, because they know Japan and the US are allies, (but think if they place enough pressure on the US, this could change) and with respects to Chinese hackers having hacked into a fake US water plant recently, I think they are trying to assert their authority as a rising superpower in the region and are more or less saying, "who's your daddy." to the US.

Be aware, when the US placed pressure on North-Korea, they too were inadvertently testing the strength of their friendship with China.

I think it's clear... this really has nothing to do with North Korea, Japan, ... rather has to do with China as a rising superpower -vrs- the US.

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Re: Largest Japanese Warship

Post by AiA in Atlanta » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:45 am

^^^ yes, any Japan v China conflict would require the USA to act.

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Re: Largest Japanese Warship

Post by mellie » Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:05 am

AiA in Atlanta wrote:^^^ yes, any Japan v China conflict would require the USA to act.

And this is what it's all about.

A superpower -vrs- a rising superpower wanting to know where each other stand.

China are intentionally instigating troubles with US allies, and similarly, the US have instigated tensions with theirs.

It should be interesting to see if anything progresses from it, but for now, it's both the US and China antagonising each other.

Ask yourself, if Iraqi intelligence had have attempted to hack into the US water control centre ...what would have happened to them, before 9/11 I mean?

It's clear, the US are exercising a degree of caution when it comes to China.

Are tolerating more than they would from say...Iran for instance.

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