Unionist suck-holing pseudo Liberals

[kevin457]

I propose a question.

Can you truly harbour grass-roots core values of a true Australian Liberal such as Menzies, and be an advocate of unionism at the same time? ....
.......... This and be expected to be taken seriously?





I don’t believe so.

[Jovial_Monk]

This and—learn some English lunatic!

[Rorschach]

http://www.menziesvirtualmuseum.org.au/ ... ten24.html

[kevin457]

Social democracy and industrial unionism ?

Is an oxymoron in itself.

SOCIAL DEMOCRACY. 1: a political movement advocating a gradual and peaceful transition from capitalism to socialism by democratic means.

.... Rudd is of the left Labor socialist faction... is no conservative.

"It's critical that when we say to the Australian people that we want to construct an alternative vision for Australia, that they know the values for which we stand. Socialism isn't one of them...I am not a socialist. I have never been a socialist and I never will be a socialist."

- Kevin Rudd, The Age, December 14, 2006.


Something on Fabianism.... (which is socialism, basically)



Apparently, this was Gillards address to a Fabian society, re- John Howard.

"John Howard: 10 Years On"

http://www.fabian.org.au/1047.asp



I wish I could laugh at this.

Given the current state of our nations budget deficit... the recent despair of a whimpering limping socialist blamist PM Rudd courting the prospect of our nation going into yet another Labor induced recession, are any of them in a position to question the Coalitions credentials when it comes to yet again repairing what they tried so hard to destroy?

Rudd and Gillard are one in the same, it's a tag-team effort, they are mates.

[kevin457]

"I am an old-fashioned Christian socialist."

- Kevin Rudd, Australian Financial Review, February 2003.



It's critical that when we say to the Australian people that we want to construct an alternative vision for Australia, that they know the values for which we stand. Socialism isn't one of them...I am not a socialist. I have never been a socialist and I never will be a socialist."

- Kevin Rudd, The Age, December 14, 2006.

Rudds not a Fabian...honest!




Members of the University Fabian Society with Kevin Rudd and the Vice-Chancellor and Principal, Dr Michael Spence


http://sydney.edu.au/news/84.html?newsstoryid=2592

[kevin457]

Rudd denied being a socialist, the same way he denied being a Fabian.

http://www.fabian.org.au/925.asp


I don’t have a problem with anyone belonging to any given society, church or even political group.

It's when they become our PM and deny who they are, and where they came from that I start to question their authenticity and agenda.

[kevin457]

The conservatives were once quietly disdainful of our historical predispositions in this direction. In recent years, they have become openly disdainful. They are increasingly exhibit a culture that says "that unless our immediate interests are at stake, the world beyond our shores is of no intrinsic interest to us". The conservatives treat the High Commissioner for Human Rights with open contempt.

They treat the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees with open contempt.

They treat our other obligations under international humanitarian law with an indifferent bordering on contempt.

They regard the multi-lateral system in general and the United Nations in particular with suspicion bordering on hostility.

They dispatch junior ministers to UN Conferences whereas the Europeans (who they say they seek to emulate) send Presidents and Prime Ministers. They did so recently at Monterey. And they will do so again next week.

I don't know about you folks but the thought of Larry Anthony representing Australia at the United Nations is just plain scary.

And finally there is the collapse of our official aid flows - reaching 0.5% of GDP under Labor and collapsing to 0.29% of GDP under the conservatives.

Whether the conservatives recognise this or not, what this demonstrates collectively to the rest of the world is a hardening of the Australian heart.

Our challenge in the period ahead is to turn this around.

-Shadow Minister for Foreign Affairs , Mr Kevin Rudd, MP
2002 AFS Australian Fabian Society Conference.

http://www.fabian.org.au/925.asp