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Re: Death Penalty - Argument for

Post by mantra » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:06 am

Chard wrote:
Executions had been partly slowed because of a legal dispute over the drugs being used.
See, we wouldn't be having this dispute if the state would just use a goddamn hypobaric chamber to induce hypoxia as the method of execution. Completely painless, even pleasant.
Why don't they use a hypobaric chamber? Is it the cost? I saw a documentary where they were putting a killer down with a needle. The first hit didn't work, but he suffered a lot. He didn't die until the third needle. It wasn't getting into an artery. Apparently they don't always use professionals for this job. The same occurred with an electric chair killing. The guy just kept getting burnt and electrocuted in different spots on his body. It took about half an hour before he died.

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Re: Death Penalty - Argument for

Post by Neferti » Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:13 pm

mantra wrote:
Chard wrote:
Executions had been partly slowed because of a legal dispute over the drugs being used.
See, we wouldn't be having this dispute if the state would just use a goddamn hypobaric chamber to induce hypoxia as the method of execution. Completely painless, even pleasant.
Why don't they use a hypobaric chamber? Is it the cost? I saw a documentary where they were putting a killer down with a needle. The first hit didn't work, but he suffered a lot. He didn't die until the third needle. It wasn't getting into an artery. Apparently they don't always use professionals for this job. The same occurred with an electric chair killing. The guy just kept getting burnt and electrocuted in different spots on his body. It took about half an hour before he died.
A Greens voter who thinks killing HUMANS, by any means, for whatever reason, is OK? Yet putting a dog down is criminal?

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Re: Death Penalty - Argument for

Post by Super Nova » Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:33 pm

Why don't they use the same drugs that they use to put dogs down. The are just dead immediately. very sad to watch and chilling.

As anyone when they put their dog down looked at the eyes as the drug takes effect.

I cried....... the image lingers with me.
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Re: Death Penalty - Argument for

Post by Jovial_Monk » Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:59 pm

The death penalty is stupid, so not surprised the common thief SN is for it.

The state being a murderer makes sense exactly how? The more murder, the more murders there will be.

Too much like “tooth for a tooth, eye for an eye” and anything based on the bible or other religious crap is bound to be wrong!

In the past, poor people, especially blacks, got fitted up for a crime a hick cop couldn’t solve (or didn’t want to solve for political reasons) and DNA analysis has proved a lot of those were innocent.

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Re: Death Penalty - Argument for

Post by Neferti » Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:22 pm

Jovial_Monk wrote:The death penalty is stupid, so not surprised the common thief SN is for it.

The state being a murderer makes sense exactly how? The more murder, the more murders there will be.

Too much like “tooth for a tooth, eye for an eye” and anything based on the bible or other religious crap is bound to be wrong!

In the past, poor people, especially blacks, got fitted up for a crime a hick cop couldn’t solve (or didn’t want to solve for political reasons) and DNA analysis has proved a lot of those were innocent.

If I even thought you COVETED your dog/fish/niece... you would be a REPORTED.

Tell me where you were when the Beaumont kids went missing?

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Re: Death Penalty - Argument for

Post by mantra » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:32 pm

Neferti~ wrote: A Greens voter who thinks killing HUMANS, by any means, for whatever reason, is OK? Yet putting a dog down is criminal?
You are no longer capable of thinking rationally Neferti. I have always had my pets euthanised when their suffering becomes too great and pain relief isn't an alternative.

The death penalty isn't going to cease because a few people in another nation object to it. It's a fact of life in some US States and the only objection I have is that the wrong person doesn't have his/her life mistakenly terminated. Now that DNA testing has become so advanced - it's less likely to occur I would assume.

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Re: Death Penalty - Argument for

Post by Jovial_Monk » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:55 pm

“ProLife” Texas, who have closed down 100 clinics offering health services to women, has 500 executions a year. Insane—and obscene!

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Re: Death Penalty - Argument for

Post by mantra » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:04 pm

Jovial_Monk wrote:“ProLife” Texas, who have closed down 100 clinics offering health services to women, has 500 executions a year. Insane—and obscene!
From the stories I hear about Texas it has a fairly primitive legal system. Considering the wealth that's generated there it's surprising they're not more progressive.

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Re: Death Penalty - Argument for

Post by Jovial_Monk » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:06 pm

Rightwing govt, what do you expect? Progress?

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Re: Death Penalty - Argument for

Post by Super Nova » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:42 am

Jovial_Monk wrote:“ProLife” Texas, who have closed down 100 clinics offering health services to women, has 500 executions a year. Insane—and obscene!
Evidence: http://tdcj.state.tx.us/death_row/dr_ex ... _year.html

2013 10
2012 15
2011 13

Monk, you just make shit up. 500 executions/year my arse. They had just 10 last year.

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