Fraudband

[mantra]

The reserve bank called.
Glen Stevens said to shut the fuck up because you have in idea what you are talking about

Isn't it possible for you and Roach to actually say why you disagree instead of telling someone to STFU? Seriously - what's the point of having a political forum if two of the main players can't verbalise a response. Tell Monk why you disagree with him - that's called debate.

[Jovial_Monk]

No wonder this place has declined and now looks more like a cross between a tip and a dunny.

I post detailed posts, support my thesis with links—and get crap back.

Food for thought with an election due in 5 weeks.

[IQS.RLOW]

The reserve bank called.
Glen Stevens said to shut the fuck up because you have in idea what you are talking about

Isn't it possible for you and Roach to actually say why you disagree instead of telling someone to STFU? Seriously - what's the point of having a political forum if two of the main players can't verbalise a response. Tell Monk why you disagree with him - that's called debate.

It's a valid response to his bullshit. The reserve bank has consistently sited the need to return to surplus. The ALPs own policy is to return to surplus (not that will ever achieve it)

The truth is already out there and it is the consensus. Monk blathering lies and bullshit does not change that and it does not deserve an in depth response with the financial indicators that are freely available.

Calling blustering bullshit a "thesis" sets the tone for his posts.
It's a fucking joke.

[Rorschach]

Not only that, the Libs want to impose austerity: using codewords like balance the budget, return to surplus, give tax cuts.

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When are you going to learn to not continually repeat ALP lies?

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Just to show I read your piece of shit post, roach.

You have not heard Abbott, Hockey and Robb say what I posted? Abbott never said he wants to return the Budhttp://www.ozpolitic.com/polanimal/posting.php ... 4211#getto" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; surplus? You never heard Whiny Piny say he wants to sack several thousand teachers as class sizes “don’t matter?” You never heard Hockey talk of sacking first 12,000 more lately 20,000 public servants?

You are a liar, roach!

So you were lying about ignoring me too eh?
Is there no end to your mendacity? (look it up)

Let's look at who is lying eh Monk.

You never heard the ALP say they were going to be in surplus?

August 2010, election campaign:


JULIA GILLARD: Well the better economic plan for the future is about bringing the budget to surplus in 2013. We’ll do that.... I’m going to get the budget to surplus.... I’ll get the budget back to surplus in 2013.

August 2010:

JOURNALIST: If you don’t make a, get the Budget back in to surplus in 2012-2013, this is a question to both of you, the cameras are on – will you resign?

PM: (laughs) The Budget is coming back to surplus, no ifs no buts it will happen.

August 2010, election debate:

Moderator David Speers: I think, Prime Minister, that Peter is seeking some sort of guarantee if you don’t get the budget back into surplus in three years, what happens? Do you sack the Treasurer, do you take personal responsibility?

Julia Gillard: It’s happening, David. Failure is not an option.

Speers: If it doesn’t? If it doesn’t?

Gillard: Well, failure is not an option here and we won’t fail.

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Wayne Swan has vowed to return the federal budget to surplus within four years, with his government poised to announce further deep cuts to spending.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/federal- ... z2aZgPYNtq" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

We will stick to our budget strategy, which includes returning to surplus in 2016/17," Mr Bowen told ABC television.
"There have been revenue impacts ... but I do think it's important economically that there's a clear pathway to surplus."

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Bowen hasn't stated that the ALP will return to surplus?

"But I do think it's important, economically, that there's a clear pathway to surplus," he told ABC television.

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You aren't aware of the ALP sacking public servants?

The department had lost more than 4000 staff in three years due to budget cuts and abusive behaviour from the public against its remaining workers was worsening, she said.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/claims-p ... z2aZht5A9D" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The federal government's biggest department is spending $30 million hiring casual and short-term labour while shedding more than 2400 of its permanent staff.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/public-s ... z2aZiCPgcp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In what is likely to be his final budget, Mr Swan spruiked $43 billion in savings and tax increases, including axing 1200 public sector jobs, as he outlined Labor's ''smarter and fairer'' plan to turn an $18 billion deficit into a balanced budget in three years.

Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/busines ... z2aZiOkPg2" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Federal Government has confirmed there will be a $580 million cut to the public service in Tuesday's budget, with the reduction to take place over four years.

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We know Bowen is looking at more cuts and new ways to tax.
But your screams of "austerity" and the constant dribbling of ALP propaganda is only aimed at the Coalition usually Abbott... in baseless ad hom attacks. gee... I wonder why you have NO CREDIBILITY.

[Rorschach]

The reserve bank called.
Glen Stevens said to shut the fuck up because you have in idea what you are talking about

Isn't it possible for you and Roach to actually say why you disagree instead of telling someone to STFU? Seriously - what's the point of having a political forum if two of the main players can't verbalise a response. Tell Monk why you disagree with him - that's called debate.

mantra you had better stop lying about what I say
I have almost always told monk why I disagree with him.
monk on the other hand falls flat in that area.
You on the other hand are incapable of reading apparently.

I don't recall recently saying it (stfu) to monk... quote please.
you however are getting really close to me saying to you bigtime.

[Jovial_Monk]

Did I not say Swan/Gillard and Bowen/Rudd are wrong to talk of a surplus?

No real economic commentator has called for a quick return to a surplus.

As to Stevens, he has no authority to call for anything, given how wrong the RBA has been over the last 4 years:

1. Stuck to a rigid policy of NAIRU is 5%—that is not how NAIRU works.

2. Took no regard of the high indebtedness of the private sector

3. Took no regard of the Chinese economy slowing down, due to stupid austerity policies in Europe and then the UK. Now the Vietnamese economy is also slowing down.

4. Took no regard of the hit to confidence of the Libs trash talking the economy

5. Because of all these mistakes, raised rates one Melbourne Cup Day that it took until the next Cup Day to reverse.

But the private sector IS highly indebted, thanks to the idiots Howard and Costello fuelling a credit–fed spending boom. Borrow to spend, house prices rise, borrow to spend. Well, time to pay the bankers is now. Deficits will allow the private sector to do that. The low amount of net debt is of no concern.

[Jovial_Monk]

The reserve bank called.
Glen Stevens said to shut the fuck up because you have in idea what you are talking about

Isn't it possible for you and Roach to actually say why you disagree instead of telling someone to STFU? Seriously - what's the point of having a political forum if two of the main players can't verbalise a response. Tell Monk why you disagree with him - that's called debate.

mantra you had better stop lying about what I say
I have almost always told monk why I disagree with him.
monk on the other hand falls flat in that area.
You on the other hand are incapable of reading apparently.

I don't recall recently saying it (stfu) to monk... quote please.
you however are getting really close to me saying to you bigtime.

No, you only ever come up with Lib talking points. I don’t recall you ever making a decent post, roach. You are back on ignore.

[Rorschach]

Did I not say Swan/Gillard and Bowen/Rudd are wrong to talk of a surplus?

I don't hear you screaming austerity about it... do you?
Liar...
Hypocrite...
keep squirming keep moving them goalposts.
Why are you supporting them again?

[Rorschach]

The reserve bank called.
Glen Stevens said to shut the fuck up because you have in idea what you are talking about

mantra you had better stop lying about what I say
I have almost always told monk why I disagree with him.
monk on the other hand falls flat in that area.
You on the other hand are incapable of reading apparently.

I don't recall recently saying it (stfu) to monk... quote please.
you however are getting really close to me saying to you bigtime.

No, you only ever come up with Lib talking points. I don’t recall you ever making a decent post, roach. You are back on ignore.

I don't even read lib talking points monkey Boy... unlike your word perfect ALP propaganda regurgitation.

[IQS.RLOW]

by HBS Guy » 26 Feb 2012, 16:46

No, she will win the 2013 election. 2 years surplus budgets, the compensation for the “carbon tax’ etc will see to that. That is why Rudd had to challenge now.