Fibre to the Home very fast broadband proposal

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Re: Fibre to the Home very fast broadband proposal

Post by Hebe » Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:18 pm

That man is creating a rod for his own back. As has been suggested elsewhere, all the ALP has to do for its next election campaign is base their ads around the theme "Malcolm says No".

Of course, he won't last till then anyway.
The better I get to know people, the more I find myself loving dogs.

Jovial Monk

Re: Fibre to the Home very fast broadband proposal

Post by Jovial Monk » Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:32 pm

If he does last that long it is not his 'talent' but the sheer fact they have nobody else, tho Fat Boy has been touted.

Skin deep the Fib talent pool. . .

Jovial Monk

Re: Fibre to the Home very fast broadband proposal

Post by Jovial Monk » Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:32 pm

Just another comment on the economics of the NBN - it is a $43Bn capital spend over 8 years (say $5bn per year). So its a large capital spend but hardly out of proportion to a $1000 billion per year economy - about 0.5% of GDP.
Puts it in a bit of perspective, eh? And half of that $5Bn will come from private industry.

Jubial Priest

Re: Fibre to the Home very fast broadband proposal

Post by Jubial Priest » Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:40 pm

You are a clueless fuck aren't you Monk...
Broadband plan faces a real risk of failure -analysts say

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9/04/2009 - The federal government's national broadband network (NBN) plan could fail, with private investors likely to be put off by the project's low returns, analysts say.

The government plans to create a government-controlled company to build the $43 billion NBN over eight years, with private sector investment capped at 49 per cent.

Goldman Sachs JBWere analyst Christian Guerra believes the NBN could fail due to a lack of investment from the private sector and because consumers are increasingly shifting to wireless technology.

"There is a real possibility of the NBN failing to eventuate," he wrote in a note to clients.

"The key issue remains demand, which, in our view, will be compromised by the shift to wireless and poor demand for the new NBN from fixed line players."

Analysts said the NBN will deliver returns of just five per cent, if access prices are maintained at current levels of about $45 per month.

Merril Lynch analyst Alice Bennett said such a low return would not be attractive for private investors.

"The problem we have is that we don't think it will get off the ground post the (federal government's) initial $4.7 billion investment," she wrote in a client note.

Citigroup analysts were more optimistic, even though they agreed the NBN would struggle to produce a commercial return unless access prices rose above $55 per month.

"This announcement is bigger than broadband," they wrote.

"We believe the FTTH network is nation building in disguise and the government will fund the entire $43 billion build with or without private investment."

However, the government face a tough task getting legislation for such a large investment through the Senate, analysts said.

Meanwhile, the outlook for Telstra was relatively positive, although the revised NBN plan and regulatory proposals are seen as long-term risks.

Goldman Sachs JBWere and Citi analysts upgraded their recommendations on Telstra shares to buy and hold, respectively, while Merril Lynch maintained its hold recommendation.

The ability for Telstra to re-engage in the NBN project was the biggest outcome of the federal government's announcement, Guerra said.

Jovial Monk

Re: Fibre to the Home very fast broadband proposal

Post by Jovial Monk » Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:53 pm

The EFTPOS machines will be put on the NBN, should eliminate tiresome delays waiting for the bank to approve the purchase--may not actually be long but certainly seem long when there is a shop full of customers! A little thing but good!

People (anonymous 'analysts' quoted by LOW_IQ) say the uptake will be low because of increased costs. But if I can cut off my copper lines to the phone and the one to the fax that is a nice saving right there. the real saving will be the huge uptake and all the new services that will burgeon once the NBN is in place. Only blind idiots like Sheepy and Turdbull can't see that.

Jubial Priest

Re: Fibre to the Home very fast broadband proposal

Post by Jubial Priest » Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:14 pm

anonymous 'analysts' quoted by LOW_IQ
Goldman Sachs JBWere analyst Christian Guerra
Merril Lynch analyst Alice Bennett
Citigroup analysts
:roll:
You are a clueless fuck aren't you Monk...

Jovial Monk

Re: Fibre to the Home very fast broadband proposal

Post by Jovial Monk » Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:23 pm

The NBN should be called:

RuddNet


ahahgahahahahahahahahaha

Jovial Monk

Re: Fibre to the Home very fast broadband proposal

Post by Jovial Monk » Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:43 pm

What will this NBN change? A lot of our news and entertainment.

A lot of people have a Mac Mini computer as the hub of their entertainment centre, now this computer can suck movies off the net and begin playing one in seconds--will FTA TV survive? Newspapers? DVD rental places? Apparently the Oz management is considering making the paper free, to get more readers so they can charge more for the ads they carry--circulation has been declining as you can read it on the net.

The keyword of the NBN is: bandwidth. the sort of bandwidth that means people really can work at home with high def video phone communications with clients, coworkers, consultants etc. With a fast new network the worker could be anywhere in the city or 400Km away which means regions could attract high income workers, reversing population declines, etc.

The most exciting aspect is new applications that will be developed to take advantage of the speed and bandwidth. How about sharing a long tedious computer task, rendering of solid objects etc among various computers on the net. Cybercrime will also be taking advantage of the enhanced bandwidth--not all good!

Jovial Monk

Re: Fibre to the Home very fast broadband proposal

Post by Jovial Monk » Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:17 pm

Thinking about the Government’s plan to build a national broadband network, how much benefit will a national broadband network be to:

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Seems people like the NBN! Hope Malcolm Uturnbull tries to block this! I really do! A DD on this would wipe the Fibs out! So Barnaby & friend will "bravely" cross the Senate floor to vote for it.

Malcolm knows the internet, he started Ozemail! Hahahahaha

Jovial Monk

Re: Fibre to the Home very fast broadband proposal

Post by Jovial Monk » Mon May 04, 2009 8:40 pm

7.30Report showed a guy in Hobart that had been hooked to the FTTP net. He was ecstatic! Four people in the house:

checking email
playing an internet game
watching a TV program streamed over the web
On the phone

All at the same time and all getting fast smooth data, bandwidth more than adequate for each! There was just a tiny receiving station where the coax came in and was split by a router or modem whatever into ethernet cables going to the main rooms. I can't wait for this sort of speed! Wooo!!!!

And boy do I hope the Fibs oppose this. Cricket teams won't be in it, they will be reduced to a beach volleyball team!

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