The UN is crazy......... Syria

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The UN is crazy......... Syria

Post by Super Nova » Wed May 29, 2013 2:06 am

WTF is going on. The EU will arm the rebels and Russia is going to arm the government.

The UN clearly doesn't work. The appear to never be unified on anything that is really important.

Is this just going to be the west against Russia mini war destroying a country and it's peoples leaving further hatred of the west when it all ends, if it every does. This is political stupidity.... at least Russia knows how to protect it's interests and does pretend to be doing anything but that.

Fears grow of Syrian arms race as EU and Russia move on weapons
Fears are growing of a foreign-fed arms race in Syria as the European Union, driven by Britain and France, decided to allow weapons to be sold to the rebels, and Russia disclosed that it will provide Syria with sophisticated anti-aircraft missiles.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... apons.html
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Re: The UN is crazy......... Syria

Post by AiA in Atlanta » Wed May 29, 2013 2:36 am

Senator John McCain slipped into Syria to meet with rebels. This man wants American intervention. I wish he had been kidnapped and held hostage. That really would make the Syria situation interesting.

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Re: The UN is crazy......... Syria

Post by Super Nova » Wed May 29, 2013 4:09 am

So we arm the rebels, the Russians arm the government. They have a big shit fight. Radical extremists get the weapons at the end of it. We bitch and complain when they turn the weapons on us or Israel so we can have a proper war in the Middle East.

I get it now.

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Post by Rorschach » Wed May 29, 2013 11:17 am

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What’s Wrong With the United Nations and How to Fix It
Thomas G. Weiss
Reviewed by G. John Ikenberry
March/April 2009
Article Summary and Author Biography

In this engaging and sweeping critique of the United Nations, Weiss argues that the global body has never been more troubled -- nor more needed. The problems are many, and Weiss chronicles them all in a journey through the far-flung, multilayered UN system: the deep divide between developed and developing countries over human rights, economic development, and security; the decentralized, overlapping, and incoherent array of councils and agencies; and the dysfunctions of its bureaucracy and weak leadership. Beyond this, there is the problem of the United States' deep ambivalence toward UN-style multilateralism. The failure of efforts in 2005 to reform the Security Council and forge a new consensus on norms for the use of force are further signs of an ailing UN. But Weiss thinks the crisis is deeper still, rooted in a mismatch between an organization founded to serve and protect sovereign states and the accumulation of global problems that require the functional equivalent of a world government. Yet Weiss recognizes the grand dilemma: the UN would not have emerged at all or taken on its many duties if it were not configured as an instrument of state interests. The book offers a variety of proposals for strengthening the UN's capacity and ends provocatively by noting that whereas earlier generations of internationalists, most prominently those of the 1940s, spoke seriously of the need for world government, today's internationalists hide behind vague notions of "global governance."

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Bluntly put, today's dysfunction has to do mainly with the criminals and despots from 3rd world countries who have a vote in the council. Who intimidate and cajole other minor players, forming alliances with what would be considered criminal states where human rights are ignored and corruption rules.
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Re: The UN is crazy......... Syria

Post by Super Nova » Wed May 29, 2013 5:00 pm

On the money. We need a world government that has executive powers to overrule sovereign states. None of the Security Council members will let that happen. Particularly the US, Russia and China.

What are the Russians thinking. Giving Syria anti-aircraft missiles to counter a rebel group that doesn't have aircraft can only mean they are arming Syria for war when the western countries begin to intervene. It's going to get messy. The new Iraq but much worse.
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Re: The UN is crazy......... Syria

Post by AiA in Atlanta » Fri May 31, 2013 12:29 am

Seems those new Russian missiles have arrived ...

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Re: The UN is crazy......... Syria

Post by Super Nova » Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:23 pm

Now after the gas attack... it looks to me like the West lead by the US is ready to go to war..... again.

It would not surprise me that the Syrian government were not responsible for this attack but is to be used as a means to such the west into this civil war. We should not be surprised because again we promised to support one side over another and when that help didn't manifest itself as they hoped they will use all means to suck us in.

We must do this legally this time and without Russia I cannot see how that will happen.

What a cluster fuck.

British fears grow over legal justification for Syria strike
David Cameron is facing demands to set out the legal justification for military action against Syria amid mounting unease over the scale and speed of Britain’s commitment to another conflict in the Middle East.

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Re: The UN is crazy......... Syria

Post by AiA in Atlanta » Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:10 pm

The UK likes these sort of conflicts so they can pretend, briefly, that they are not just great in name only these days.

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Re: The UN is crazy......... Syria

Post by mellie » Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:54 am

Super Nova wrote:WTF is going on. The EU will arm the rebels and Russia is going to arm the government.

The UN clearly doesn't work. The appear to never be unified on anything that is really important.

Is this just going to be the west against Russia mini war destroying a country and it's peoples leaving further hatred of the west when it all ends, if it every does. This is political stupidity.... at least Russia knows how to protect it's interests and does pretend to be doing anything but that.

Fears grow of Syrian arms race as EU and Russia move on weapons
Fears are growing of a foreign-fed arms race in Syria as the European Union, driven by Britain and France, decided to allow weapons to be sold to the rebels, and Russia disclosed that it will provide Syria with sophisticated anti-aircraft missiles.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... apons.html

The UN's Founders were known communists .... even the founder of a League of Nations, US president Wilson was a communist. Roosevelt was instrumental in the UN's installation of Stalin ideology.

The EU is the "New Way" communism.

If I were to write a book/article on the UN/EU's communist manifesto I’d title it Shades of Red.

https://www.un.org/en/aboutun/history/index.shtml

http://jerickweb.50webs.com/hankmcintyr ... s_list.htm

It seems, western civilisation is at war with it's own ideology.

8-)

Oh'bummer.

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Re: The UN is crazy......... Syria

Post by iron monkey » Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:15 am

It must be a coincidence but there appears to be a high correlation of when the US needs a boost in their economywith their ability to somehow find a war or conflict to get involved with.

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