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Re: Religion of pieces of human flesh

Post by Rorschach » Sun May 26, 2013 10:54 pm



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Funny you don't know your Indian History Gunga.
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Post by Aussie » Mon May 27, 2013 6:19 am

One historian does not a history make.

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Re: Religion of pieces of human flesh

Post by IQS.RLOW » Mon May 27, 2013 8:55 am

One denial does an idiot make.
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Post by Rorschach » Mon May 27, 2013 9:36 am

Aussie wrote:One historian does not a history make.
You idiot... :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Re: Religion of pieces of human flesh

Post by Rorschach » Mon May 27, 2013 11:58 am

Riots?

The riot that followed the so-called Cronulla riot was much worse Monkey Boy. Vandalism, violence, shootings, stabbings, bashings, property invasion, intimidation of women and children etc, etc, etc.... the police did nothing to stop it.

More recently we had the muslim riot in the CBD... (how soon you forget)

Here is the insanity of the so-called moderate Muslim point of view. With all its victimhood and excuses for bad behaviour.
He's my brother - why angry Muslim youth are protesting in Sydney
September 19, 2012
Mohamad Tabbaa

Since the weekend's protests in Sydney, a number of high-profile Muslims have felt the need to speak out, to condemn the violence and to remind the broader population that this was a minority group - that not all Muslims are violent terrorists.
This seems the logical thing to do. After all, we can't let this ''violent minority'' tarnish the image of Islam and Muslims, right?
The problem is that such analyses miss the point. They zoom in on one incident and frame their entire discussion around that, as if it occurred in a contextual vacuum. When viewed on its own, of course, the protest makes no sense at all.

Why were some protesters chanting ''Our dead are in paradise, your dead are in hell''? When prominent Muslim leaders cannot even begin to fathom how some Muslim youth have mentioned corpses when apparently protesting about a movie, we need to question whether the real problem is that such leaders are incredibly out of touch with the reality of Muslim youth in this country. Waleed Aly has correctly identified that, ''This isn't about the film''. Correct.
Rather than dismissing these protests as an excuse for these youth to ''feel good about themselves'' or as a public statement of righteousness, we need instead to give genuine consideration to why our youth are acting in this manner. We need to give the situation context.
The reference to corpses made by these protesters is not at all surprising to anybody who has worked closely with the Muslim community. They are referring to those killed in the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq; they are referring to the many children killed by US drone attacks; they are referring to the Rohingya Muslims burnt to death in Burma; they are referring to Uyghur Muslims being persecuted in China; they are referring to the daily oppression of Palestinians; they are referring to the war on terrorism which they see as targeting Muslims; they are referring to Kashmir, Guantanamo Bay, Chechnya, and the many other places around the world where they witness injustice and persecution.
So no, this is not entirely about some poor-quality YouTube clip. These youth are basically protesting against the broader context of Islamophobia, within which this clip is not only being produced and propagated, but also defended as freedom of speech.
Beginning to make sense?

But there is still a problem. How do we know if these are the real concerns of the youth since they haven't articulated them in such a manner? And why on earth are they so angry at events entirely unrelated to them?
To begin with, many Muslims in Australia do not simply give up their identity as belonging to a global community merely because they happen to live in Australia. Many have not bought the liberal idea of individualism, and so see events happening on the other side of the planet as personally related to them. So, when a Muslim woman is killed collecting firewood in Afghanistan, these youth are angered at the fact that their sister was murdered. When a Muslim man is crushed to death in Palestine, they lament the loss of their brother. It may not make sense to a Western audience, but that doesn't matter. This is what is angering our youth, and until we start discussing it honestly and genuinely, the confusion will remain.


As to the question of articulating these grievances correctly: this is the ironic and very sad part. These youth have been relying on their leaders - their representatives - to do exactly that on their behalf. Instead what they see is a leadership almost exclusively concerned with ''portraying the correct image'' of Muslims in the media. Rather than voicing their grievances, they see their leaders capitulating to representatives of the governments they accuse of Muslim oppression. Instead of protecting them from what are seen as some of the harshest anti-terrorism laws in the world, they see their leaders thanking police for raiding Muslim homes; they see their leaders as siding against them, rather than with them; they feel betrayed.

And so the anger rages inside them.
They're frustrated, with no avenue for effective expression. They reach breaking point, and decide to do something.
They take to the streets.

Yes, perhaps there is a feeling of catharsis in the waving of fists and chanting of slogans. Yes, it's obvious that the way they express themselves betrays the message they claim to be carrying. But we should not place the blame entirely on them. We should look towards what's really lacking in the Muslim community, and for that, we cannot look past the real superheroes in this episode: the present leadership. These Muslim leaders who come out in full force when it's time to condemn other Muslims in the public, only to welter away and become invisible again once the tide settles. These superheroes, who, rather than voicing the very real grievances of the youth, and defending the interests of the whole Muslim community, seem more intent on representing the voice of an exclusive, overly image-conscious minority.

So what is the solution, then?

Well, here's one radical idea: rather than having a collective anxiety attack each time Muslims are mentioned in the media, how about we actually genuinely engage the youth for a change, and speak to them rather than about them?

Mohamad Tabbaa is a PhD candidate in law and criminology at the University of Melbourne. He researches issues of discrimination against Muslim minority groups in the West, particularly Australia.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-a ... z26sDJKCQ0

Honestly... compatible to our way of life and thinking... :roll:
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Re: Religion of pieces of human flesh

Post by Aussie » Mon May 27, 2013 3:17 pm

Riots....we don't do riots like they can do riots.........

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Re: Religion of pieces of human flesh

Post by Rorschach » Mon May 27, 2013 3:33 pm

Yeah lots of respect for the law there...
you backtracking now?

I remember the Cronulla aftermath, the gang-rapes, the cbd riot/protest, the crime, the gangs, the disrespect, the intimidation, the violence all of it ongoing all coming from one cultural group in particular.
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Re: Religion of pieces of human flesh

Post by Aussie » Mon May 27, 2013 3:55 pm

I've got lots of photos of riots......and most of them do not involve Muslims.

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Re: Religion of pieces of human flesh

Post by IQS.RLOW » Mon May 27, 2013 3:58 pm

How the Aussies of the world want the authorities to handle rioters

Leftwing pussification
http://www.friatider.se/parking-tickets ... holm-burns
STOCKHOLM (FRIA TIDER). Owners of cars destroyed in the riots fined for parking illegally while police adopt non-intervention policy.
Since last Sunday, May 19, rioters have taken to the streets of Stockholm’s suburbs every night, torching cars, schools, stores, office buildings and residential complexes. Yesterday, a police station in Rågsved, a suburb four kilometers south of Stockholm, was attacked and set on fire.

But while the Stockholm riots keep spreading and intensifying, Swedish police have adopted a tactic of non-interference. ”Our ambition is really to do as little as possible,” Stockholm Chief of Police Mats Löfving explained to the Swedish newspaper Expressen on Tuesday.

”We go to the crime scenes, but when we get there we stand and wait,” elaborated Lars Byström, the media relations officer of the Stockholm Police Department. ”If we see a burning car, we let it burn if there is no risk of the fire spreading to other cars or buildings nearby. By doing so we minimize the risk of having rocks thrown at us.”

Swedish parking laws, however, continue to be rigidly enforced despite the increasingly chaotic situation. Early Wednesday, while documenting the destruction after a night of rioting in the Stockholm suburb of Alby, a reporter from Fria Tider observed a parking enforcement officer writing a ticket for a burnt-out Ford.
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Re: Religion of pieces of human flesh

Post by Black Orchid » Mon May 27, 2013 4:18 pm

Aussie wrote:I've got lots of photos of riots......and most of them do not involve Muslims.

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And that excuses the violent behaviour of many Muslims around the world 'in the name of Islam' how?

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