Fraudband

[IQS.RLOW]

That's a great site that demonstrates how a fanboi manages to waste bandwidth by failing to understand how to correctly code HTML.

No wonder that dick wants the NBN... He needs it to be able to sell his shitty website design skills

[Rorschach]

Reiterating one of the main reasons labor got it wrong...

I vote for 'Fraudband'

* by: Sam Clench
* From: news.com.au
* May 09, 2013 2:39PM

WE don't need a pretty website to tell us Labor's National Broadband Network is dramatically faster than the Coalition's alternative.

Even Malcolm Turnbull, who had some uncharacteristically sharp words for howfastisthenbn.com.au creator James Brotchie yesterday, admits Labor's broadband plan would deliver higher speeds. Mr Brotchie has simply missed the point.

Technical jargon aside, the broadband debate isn't complicated. It's all about speed versus cost - how much pace should we sacrifice in the name of a lower price tag?

Call me stingy, but $37 billion seems a bit steep for a service most people will just use to pirate movies faster.

Obviously there are consumers who would harness the NBN more productively. Mr Brotchie himself is probably in that camp - I presume he has another brilliantly insightful website in the works.

But it's not worth spending the entire budget of Pakistan to bring super-fast broadband to every doorstep if only a fraction of the recipients will make full use of it.

It's like giving every Australian a spanking new Mercedes when half of us don't drive.

Supporters of Labor's NBN need to consider the difference between wanting something and needing it. We'd all love the ability to grab a movie from iTunes in less than a minute, but those 37 billion dollars could be better spent elsewhere.

The government could build ten hospitals with that kind of cash, or fully fund the Gonski reforms for five years. Heck, it could construct two more halls in every school and have enough change left over for Peter Garrett to stuff them full of pink batts.

Stephen Conroy can crow about teleconferences between doctors and patients all he likes - quicker broadband isn't going to magically fix our health system. You can't conduct surgery or care for recovering patients remotely.

Even if you could, that's no reason to hook up every household.

Mr Brotchie is kidding himself if he thinks the government has merely failed to sell the NBN. We get it. It's really, really fast internet.

But the opportunity cost here is huge, and even the Coalition's cheaper plan couldn't be called cheap.

When our hospitals and schools aren't up to scratch, there are more important things to worry about than shaving a few more minutes off our download times.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/opinion/i-vote-f ... z2UAEGNY4f" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Rorschach]

and again for the Uber dummies...

NBN a waste of money, says Japan IT mogul Masayoshi Son
* by: Rick Wallace, Tokyo correspondent
* From: The Australian
* October 30, 2010 12:00AM

ONE of Japan's richest men has labelled Australia's $43 billion National Broadband Network a stupid waste of taxpayers' money.

Masayoshi Son, who heads Japanese internet and mobile giant Softbank and counts Apple's Steve Jobs and Microsoft's Bill Gates among his friends, attacked the Gillard government's signature project yesterday.

Quizzed about the NBN by The Weekend Australian after delivering a speech in Tokyo, Mr Son said it was completely unnecessary to spend so much taxpayers' money.

"It's a waste; it's a stupid solution," he said. "Without using taxpayers' money you can get 21st-century infrastructure."

Mr Son had just finished delivering his own vision of how to deliver fibre-to-the-home connections throughout Japan without any taxpayer contribution.

He claimed that his solution, recently put to Prime Minister Naoto Kan and several members of his cabinet, would deliver basic fibre connections for just 1150 yen ($15) a month, far cheaper than what is envisaged under the NBN.

That is also far cheaper than the current typical monthly price of Y5000 ($63) for cable in Japan.

Mr Son's proposal involves splitting the part-government-owned NTT into telco services and fibre network businesses and rolling out cable to all homes within five years.

Softbank and fellow carrier KDDI would fold their fibre cable infrastructure into the merged network business, which would then be 40 per cent owned by the government and 60 per cent by NTT, Softbank and KDDI.

Mr Son said that a one-time rollout of fibre -- similar to the NBN proposal -- would cost just one-third as much as cabling individual homes on an on-demand basis.

"My advice is forget about the demand basis installation, just do it with a plan. Replace whole cities: this month Hiroshima City, next month another city, and so on," he said. Oh dear... that is very much the plan I put forward years ago... but what would I know... right?

"Replace entire cities with a plan and remove metal and replace with fibre. That way the installation cost is one-third and the installation speed is much quicker."

He believes that no new capital investment would be required from taxpayers and that the network business would soon become profitable because of lower maintenance costs stemming from the replacement of the decaying copper network.

"After five years it (the network business) would generate very profitable free cash flow. If that company generates profitable free cash flow over the next 20 years, then it can get all the money from banks, not depending on taxpayers' money.

In a speech at the Foreign Correspondents' Club of Japan, he acknowledged Softbank would benefit from the plan, but said so would the country and potentially the world.

Mr Son said that while Australia faced obvious technical challenges in terms of distances and sparse population, Japan's mountainous terrain and thousands of islands posed challenges, too.

[Rorschach]

yet another point of view...

Expert says tablets and smart phones will make NBN out of date
* by: By Clare Peddie
* From: The Advertiser
* April 12, 2012 7:21AM
* 30 comments


THE rise of mobile internet through smart phones and tablets threatens to make the national broadband network a waste of money, a prominent social analyst says.

Speaking in Adelaide about the latest Australia SCAN social trend survey, Quantum Market Research's David Chalke said NBN Co was "missing the boat".

"Everything is going to be wireless by the time they've dug up the roads and stuffed the pipes," he said.

"It will be too late, it's all going to be mobile and wireless in the future."

A survey of 2000 Australians, performed every year for the past two decades, revealed desktop computers were dying out. Most people (71 per cent) had a laptop, tablet or smartphone.

"The lion is uncaged," he said. "It was chained to the desktop, no more. The future is all about mobility. `I'll do it wherever I want, whenever I want, however I want, on a 4 1/2 inch screen'."

But an NBN Co spokeswoman said it was the demand for data-rich video that was driving the fibreoptic network. Not something I've ever used in 20 years of personal use that amounts to more than 30 minutes.

"People want the convenience of wireless technologies so they can use their iPads and laptops in more places, but fixed networks continue to do the `heavy lifting' of broadband data use," she said. Go buy a dvd.

"As we move to a time where really data-heavy applications like video become more prevalent, there will be an increasing need for fixed connections like the NBN."

She said it was also important to recognise that when people use iPads or smartphones in WiFi mode, they are using a wireless connection to a fixed network.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/technology/nbn-c ... z2UAJKWB4m" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Super Nova]

That's a great site that demonstrates how a fanboi manages to waste bandwidth by failing to understand how to correctly code HTML.

No wonder that dick wants the NBN... He needs it to be able to sell his shitty website design skills

Yes it is tone of the most bizarre demonstrations on how not to design a webpage. It breaks just about every user interface design principle.

I found it, it support Monks view so for balance I thought I would share it.

Well Australia has NBN. Enjoy paying for bandwidth that you don't need. And paying more if you go for the low end products when you overstep your limit.

[Neferti]

Some people should be deported!

[Jovial_Monk]

People are tripping over themselves to get that bandwidth they obviously need or want. SN lives in the 1980s or something and everything since then has passed him by. Sad, but not my problem.

He is wrong as is amply demonstrated by the rush to connect and choose the higher bandwidths. I assume these people know what they are doing, sad that SN wants to throttle them to what he thinks is all they need.

[IQS.RLOW]

There's no rush at all. Demonstrated by the piss poor take up of the NBullshitN

[Super Nova]

People are tripping over themselves to get that bandwidth they obviously need or want. SN lives in the 1980s or something and everything since then has passed him by. Sad, but not my problem.

He is wrong as is amply demonstrated by the rush to connect and choose the higher bandwidths. I assume these people know what they are doing, sad that SN wants to throttle them to what he thinks is all they need.

So they are prepared to pay. Great. A choice of one supplier in a monopoly.

I need food to. If there was only one shop in town, I too would have to buy at what ever rate they choose to charge.

This was never a technology discussion Monk and you know it. It was a value for money discussion and the lack of choice for alternative suppliers and technology.

[Jovial_Monk]

Garbage. Most countries are or already have rolled out a FTTP network. Turncoat has invested in the French and Spanish versions of NBN Co, but thinks we aren’t worthy, only those living overseas.

You have no business nous that is for sure, the opportunity cost of not building the NBN is huge. Fraudband with its huge copper remediation and maintenance and high power requirements is no cheaper than the real NBN. Using wireless, oh please!

High upload speeds. That is the beauty of the NBN.