Fraudband

[Jovial_Monk]

If everybody on your fibre is busily accessing the internet at once, downloading a big Windows patch, a 100mbps will drop to 85mbps. Wireless will show much bigger drops as a tower gets more subscribers, even if every one of these only uses the net for light use.

Today MAYBE families don’t need 100/40 tho that is the most popular speed band by far, but if you have kids and they are all accessing the net and you want to watch the a football match etc 100/40 is needed NOW!

One common use—video phone calls, grandparent to grandkid etc etc, need that high upload you see.

The internet of things is the next big thing.

Having this superabundant broadband will soon see new uses and applications! I can’t wait! What are you lot afraid of?

[Jovial_Monk]

Also,

"The average person who does regular internet activities is probably not going to notice much difference today,'' Professor Tucker said. ''Where I think it will make a difference is in small businesses.''

Independent telecommunications analyst Paul Budde said right now only about 5 per cent of people, mainly small businesses, would be able to make use of the increased speed.


Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/it-pro/ ... z2Tojo4iTQ

Confirm what I have been saying that this NBN is an overkill for the audience it intended to serve and that equals ===== waste of money.

I have read some of Budde’s last writings and he has seriously lost the plot.

We need the FTTH because the copper is crap. That is why I write stuff like “inadequate even for voice after rain.” Australia is also slipping down the speed table. FTTH is very doable, will keep us internationally compatible, will boost education, will end the brutal isolation of the bush and as the Boomers grow old and frail they can stay in their own homes so we don’t have to spend $$$ building and staffing hospitals and nursing homes.

All for the cost of under 10% of total govt spend but spread over 10 years.

The real fucking crime is that Howard didn’t build the NBN instead of pissing all that $300+BN in boom revenue!

[IQS.RLOW]

All for the cost of under 10% of total govt spend but spread over 10 years.

But this is your ALP so going by your last disastrous budget debacle of wastrel management...
10% of govt spend= $36Bn x 1700% = $612Bn
10 years x 1700% = 170 years

That's about par for the ALP fucking the economy for a high speed pirate movie network for dole bludgers like Monk

[Aussie]

But this is your ALP so going by your last disastrous budget debacle of wastrel management...
10% of govt spend= $36Bn x 1700% = $612Bn
10 years x 1700% = 170 years

^^^ Typical meaningless LNP voodoo.

[Jovial_Monk]

That is why I have the little creep on ignore.

[IQS.RLOW]

But this is your ALP so going by your last disastrous budget debacle of wastrel management...
10% of govt spend= $36Bn x 1700% = $612Bn
10 years x 1700% = 170 years

^^^ Typical meaningless LNP voodoo.

It's only meaningless to you because it has some multiple syllable words that you struggle with.

Did you catch the polls today?
About time you lot of criminal sycophant knob jockeys did this, isn't it?

[Super Nova]

Having this superabundant broadband will soon see new uses and applications! I can’t wait! What are you lot afraid of?

Waste and more waste.

I was just addressing the point you raised that wireless has contention as an argument against wireless where Fibre and terrestrial networks have contention as well.

1. Symmetry argument - dead
2. Contention argument - dead

If you infest in huge bandwidths you will have good performance. If the NBN is fully adopted and everyone used the so called capability, you will have network contention and everyone will slow down. It is not a limitless resource.


I am afraid that once NBN is adopted and everyone used it to download their porn movies on demand that extra costs will be required to keep the network working as promised.

Tell me Monk, what is the forecast for spend when all of Australia is on NBN. Will those costs covered by the government or will real speed guarantees require extra payments by the subscriber?

Since there is no choice, what value for money guarantees does the average punter have when the network starts to groan under the load.

Forecast..... ends in tears.

[Jovial_Monk]

I do not know what your problem is, SN, probably a stupid political partisan anti–ALP point of view.

Contention, congestion with wireless is very real, like I said 4G has already slowed way down due to that very fact. On fibre, it is a minor issue likely to affect speeds a tiny fraction of the time.

Symmetry—the NBN rules here.

All this crap about using wireless with fibre, like buying a ferrari and hitching it to a horse!

The copper is rat shit here, hell even the pits and ducts are rat shit. Even Turncoat has admitted that the very high power requirements of FTTN and the cost of remediating (and, tragically, even re-running copper) and maintaining it means the cost of the real NBN and #Fraudband are the same.

You rave on about CAPEX being so dear (it isn’t, not in the context of all govt spending, under 1% in total for the whole NBN) but your and the Libs’ idiotic non-solutions would see sky high OPEX and a much higher cost in the medium and longer term.

John Cvunting Howard could have built TEN NBNs but decided to use the boom time revenues for buying elections, raiding health, education and infrastructure budgets to get more money to piss up against the wall.

[Super Nova]

Monk,

You raise points, I try to only address the claims you make.

You say it 1% , that's a shit load of money. I never raise CAPEX or OPEX..... you do not want to hear it is money that could have been spent better, It's too far down the track anyway. Enjoy your NBN and I look forward to reading in this thread when the costs go up as they realise in 5-10 years time there needs to be huge re-investment to move with the times and since it is a monopoly really, you will have to pay.

I'm done.

Enjoy the big white elephant and the big bet you long for. I don't have to pay for it.

[Super Nova]