Fraudband

[Aussie]

1. Sooner than the NBN
2. You are a fucking IT illiterate dickhead.

I think the NBN is due before 2020.

But, please do carry on all you clevah dicks who know so much.

And while you do please explain (with links) what volume of traffic over what distance this 5G thought bubble will deliver......for all us IT illiterate dickheads. We need all the help we can get from all you IT smart-arses. You are an IT smart arse, NOIQ, aren't you?

[IQS.RLOW]

I'm sure you would be quite aware of the failures and inability of the NBN to meet even their early targets...which indicates that the whole project will blow out by years if not decades

It would pay you not to second guess technology considering how little you understand of it, but if you are happy suckling at the ballsack of a twat like Conroy, feel free to keep on sack nuzzling while the tech and business world moves along and laughs at you swallowing a mouth full of Conroy dickcheese

[Aussie]

I'm sure you would be quite aware of the failures and inability of the NBN to meet even their early targets...which indicates that the whole project will blow out by years if not decades

It would pay you not to second guess technology considering how little you understand of it, but if you are happy suckling at the ballsack of a twat like Conroy, feel free to keep on sack nuzzling while the tech and business world moves along and laughs at you swallowing a mouth full of Conroy dickcheese

Terrific....and I really reckon you ought hire a new script writer. How about you get your new one to answer my questions.

[IQS.RLOW]

I did. You claimed the NBN would be ready in 2020.
It won't be.

[Super Nova]

Okay Clever Dick. Answer me this.

1. Exactly when will this heralded 5G be fully developed, and available?
2. Is it not like a piece of cord between just one can and just one another.

This was not my source, but it will do until I find the fucker which must have been a MSM thaing.

Fair questions Aussie.

1. Exactly when will this heralded 5G be fully developed, and available?
Although many critics are already throwing water on the claim that Samsung has developed core technology that will allow it to deliver high-speed 5G wireless data connections. the company announced this week that it plans to bring the service to consumers by 2020.

I expect this to be introduced in Japan or other Asian countries that are very early adopters of new communications technology. They have the advantage of a dense population of hi-tech users.

I would expect to come to Australia up-to 5 years later but that would depend on government legislation and the terms of the current 4G licences the telcos have invested in. I expect there would be a spectrum auction with it.

I would expect 5G would not be compatible with 4G so they could not share the same spectrum.

With regard to NBN, the final mile to the homes is very expensive. It would be viable to a local hubs that are 5G or a new wireless communication protocol that does not need to be cellular (like home or corporate WiFi) to handle the last miles to the home and that would be enough for most punters. In the city where congestion could be an issue, fibre to the home would make sense since the infrastructure and return on invest is present.

2. Is it not like a piece of cord between just one can and just one another.

May an analogy would be a network of pieces of string that dynamically can be connected to one can or another from the Many Cans housed into the cell tower that is connected by many strings that dynamically change connections across the world. When there are too many calling/connecting user cans there may not be enough string to connect them one to one so it get smart moving the strings around very fast to try to keep the connections working. When this does not work we have network congestion and some string will drop existing calls and new calls cannot be made. For data when the string are moving fast this limits the data speed because the string time per call is reduced.

[IQS.RLOW]

Why are you bothering to explain the functions of crayons to someone that eats them?

[Super Nova]

Why are you bothering to explain the functions of crayons to someone that eats them?

Because he admits he doesn't understand and asked for an explanation.

Aussie, here is more detail.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_network

And because.....

[Jovial_Monk]

Wireless will never be more than a supplement to fixed line networks. It suffers from contention, i.e. gets slower as more people use them, from the weather, and to get a better service more towers need to be built, then towers interfere with each other unless they all use different frequencies but spectrum is limited so how do you avoid inter-tower interference?

Wireless networks also have data caps, just 15G for Telstra 4G and are expensive. Each tower is also connected back to the rest of the internet via fibre, uses a lot of power, etc. Related to spectrum—as the frequencies get shorter the signal moves more and more like light and so is best used for fixed, not mobile, broadband.

Fibre, in a GPON or Gigabit Passive Optical Network like the NBN, uses much less power—once a laser sends a signal into the fibre it can be carried 22Km without needing amplification so power is only used at the exchanges.

The NBN co suffered delays due to:

1. The ACCC ordered, in one of its more stupid decisions, NBN Co to build 121 Points of Interconnect rather than the 14 NBN Co had planned on.

2. The Telstra negotiations and final approval by shareholders took longer than expected. Turncoat, in the hypothetical case he builds #Fraudband which he wouldn’t even if the Libs were elected, would face even longer delays.

3. The initial tenders received by NBN Co were typical “lets rip off the govt” overpriced tenders that were rejected and a search started for contractors to start at much more realistic rates.

4. Greenfields (new housing estates) and MDUs (blocks of units) were initial problems but contractors have been signed up and are making rapid progress.

5. Telstra’s pits and ducts are in a deplorable condition and NBN Co stuffed up in not writing penalty clauses in the contract for Telstra to remediate the pits and ducts.

Nevertheless, the rollout is really ramping up and NBN Co is only 3 months behind and suffered a “blow out” in costs of 4%

The NBN is a vital piece of infrastructure that will:
1. End the dreadful isolation of the bush

2. Increase our GST substantially

3. Boost business and education and health

4. Allows increasingly frail Baby Boomers to stay in their own homes for much longer, avoiding crippling expenditure building and staffing huge numbers of hospitals and nursing homes

5. Boosts productivity, so the smallest proportion of workers can support the largest number of retirees ever known

There is really no alternative to the NBN.

[Rorschach]

So 5G is like a piece of string that can only carry a single tone in the mental model you have developed from your readings.

Interesting. Provides great insight.

Okay Clever Dick. Answer me this.

1. Exactly when will this heralded 5G be fully developed, and available?
2. Is it not like a piece of cord between just one can and just one another.

This was not my source, but it will do until I find the fucker which must have been a MSM thaing.

Samsung apparently have a working version right now.
Sorry SN wasn't up to your answer when I responded... gotta catch up every couple of days these days.

So ALP rusted-ons how much will the costs be for non-government subsidised users of the NBN...?

[Rorschach]

Wireless will never be more than a supplement to fixed line networks. It suffers from contention, i.e. gets slower as more people use them, from the weather, and to get a better service more towers need to be built, then towers interfere with each other unless they all use different frequencies but spectrum is limited so how do you avoid inter-tower interference?

Honestly....

You need an education.