Global Warming

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SN go watch ORBIT it might open your other eye at least a bit.

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Alright climate warming doubters I have been waiting for this sort of announcement from a real and recognised authority. Please read below and the link press release and note "The continued upward trend in atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases and the consequent increased radiative forcing of the Earth’s atmosphere confirm that the warming will continue"

Your argument against will be interesting to read.

Press Release No. 972

WMO Annual Climate Statement Confirms 2012 as Among Top Ten Warmest Years
GENEVA, 2 May 2013 (WMO) The World Meteorological Organization’s Statement on the Status of the Global Climate says that 2012 joined the ten previous years as one of the warmest — at ninth place — on record despite the cooling influence of a La Niña episode early in the year.

The 2012 global land and ocean surface temperature during January–December 2012 is estimated to be 0.45°C (±0.11°C) above the 1961–1990 average of 14.0°C. This is the ninth warmest year since records began in 1850 and the 27th consecutive year that the global land and ocean temperatures were above the 1961–1990 average, according to the statement. The years 2001–2012 were all among the top 13 warmest years on record.

“Although the rate of warming varies from year to year due to natural variability caused by the El Niño cycle, volcanic eruptions and other phenomena, the sustained warming of the lower atmosphere is a worrisome sign,” said WMO Secretary-General Michel Jarraud. “The continued upward trend in atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases and the consequent increased radiative forcing of the Earth’s atmosphere confirm that the warming will continue,” he said.

“The record loss of Arctic sea ice in August-September — 18% less than the previous record low of 2007 of 4.17 million km2 — was also a disturbing sign of climate change,” said Mr Jarraud. “The year 2012 saw many other extremes as well, such as droughts and tropical cyclones. Natural climate variability has always resulted in such extremes, but the physical characteristics of extreme weather and climate events are being increasingly shaped by climate change,” he said.

“For example, because global sea levels are now about 20 cm higher than they were in 1880, storms such as Hurricane Sandy are bringing more coastal flooding than they would have otherwise,” said Mr Jarraud.

WMO’s annual statements gather the key climate events of each year. The series stands today as an internationally rec­ognized authoritative source of information about temperatures, precipitation, extreme events, tropical cyclones, and sea ice extent. The newly released statement provided in-depth analysis of regional trends as part of a WMO drive to provide more information at regional and national levels to support adaptation to climate variability and change.

http://www.wmo.int/pages/mediacentre/pr ... 72_en.html

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Peer-Reviewed Survey Finds Majority Of Scientists Skeptical Of Global Warming

It is becoming clear that not only do many scientists dispute the asserted global warming crisis, but these skeptical scientists may indeed form a scientific consensus.

Don’t look now, but maybe a scientific consensus exists concerning global warming after all. Only 36 percent of geoscientists and engineers believe that humans are creating a global warming crisis, according to a survey reported in the peer-reviewed Organization Studies. By contrast, a strong majority of the 1,077 respondents believe that nature is the primary cause of recent global warming and/or that future global warming will not be a very serious problem.

The survey results show geoscientists (also known as earth scientists) and engineers hold similar views as meteorologists. Two recent surveys of meteorologists (summarized here and here) revealed similar skepticism of alarmist global warming claims.

According to the newly published survey of geoscientists and engineers, merely 36 percent of respondents fit the “Comply with Kyoto” model. The scientists in this group “express the strong belief that climate change is happening, that it is not a normal cycle of nature, and humans are the main or central cause.”

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"Peer-Reviewed Survey Finds Majority Of Scientists Skeptical Of Global Warming Crisis"

I am not arguing there is a "Global Warming Crisis" I am arguing that there is Global Warming and it is manmade and we need to plan to take action.

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Ounce like the scare mongers have got to you SN

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http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/50-to ... te-change

What if we could show you that trying to ‘stop’ climate change is 50 times more expensive than adapting to it? And what if we could prove it using numbers and formulas accepted by the IPCC, CRU and other ‘consensus’ bodies? Well that’s exactly what 50-to-1 does.

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What if we could show you that trying to ‘stop’ climate change is 50 times more expensive than adapting to it? And what if we could prove it using numbers and formulas accepted by the IPCC, CRU and other ‘consensus’ bodies? Well that’s exactly what 50-to-1 does.

So you accept climate change. Great... step one.

Don't buy it. We create problem we are a responsibility to address it because:

- While humans have a unique survival advantage to adapt by changing our environment almost all other life forms have to adapt to their environment.
- It is irresponsible to only consider ourselves and not all other life on the planet
- Failing to address root cause because of cost is short term thinking that will cause a greater problem if we get to a runaway green house effect. So we need to do something.

I do accept that a lower cost, longer term action plan should be considered so we reverse the effects before it is too late. Failing to address it at all is not an option.

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Rubbish.

I accept that warming happens ...and always has.
I accept that we contribute.

No one can tell 'how much' we contribute and paying trillions to try and fix what might be unfixable is stupidity to the power of 10.

Cost/benefit SN is the key...not fucking Green repentance
The argument is economic.

Do you have insurance for your house or car?

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How many people across the world do you want to condemn to poverty, death, violence and hardship in an effort to make yourself not feel guilty about the life you live?

Projected anthropogenic warming over the ten-year term will be 0.17 Co (IPCC 2007, p. 803, Table 10.2).

The cost of abating 0.17 Co warming by global measures as cost-effective as the tax is 0.17 x $3.2 quadrillion, or $540 trillion in cash, which, divided by global population of 7 bn, is $77,000 per capita. Divided by ten years’ global GDP of $670 trillion (derived from World Bank, 2011), it is equivalent to 80% of global GDP.

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How many people across the world do you want to condemn to poverty, death, violence and hardship in an effort to make yourself not feel guilty about the life you live?

Projected anthropogenic warming over the ten-year term will be 0.17 Co (IPCC 2007, p. 803, Table 10.2).

The cost of abating 0.17 Co warming by global measures as cost-effective as the tax is 0.17 x $3.2 quadrillion, or $540 trillion in cash, which, divided by global population of 7 bn, is $77,000 per capita. Divided by ten years’ global GDP of $670 trillion (derived from World Bank, 2011), it is equivalent to 80% of global GDP.

I do not support the scare mongers approach. We need a sensible way forward but we must not just ignore the problem and risks.

The economics of doing nothing or just looking after human interests only is flawed. Short term thinking.

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The risk of 'doing something' is greater than the risk of doing nothing.