Now with Climategate lll having been released, along with it's password ....
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/03/13/c ... -released/
Global Warming
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mellie
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mellie
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Re: Global Warming
And for our die-hard warmers, here you can observe the pseudo-science and it's former supporters crashing and burning before your very eyes.
http://www.climatedepot.com/
So yes, the warmist retreat has begun.
This comes after their union of climate scientists come "media henchmen" released their "study' findings into Murdoch Press, and how they argue his publications are biased.
So, a clan of climate changers attack a media empire for their own scientists exposing their own false science?
http://www.ucsusa.org/assets/documents/ ... cience.pdf
Let me remind you that their own formerly pro-climate change scientists are who's coming forward and talking to Murdoch press.
And will they now start conducting research (bullying) into their own disillusioned colleagues who no longer espouse Global Warming so went to the press themselves to begin with?
Why shoot the messenger?
The media is just that, a medium!!
http://www.climatedepot.com/
So yes, the warmist retreat has begun.
This comes after their union of climate scientists come "media henchmen" released their "study' findings into Murdoch Press, and how they argue his publications are biased.
So, a clan of climate changers attack a media empire for their own scientists exposing their own false science?
http://www.ucsusa.org/assets/documents/ ... cience.pdf
Let me remind you that their own formerly pro-climate change scientists are who's coming forward and talking to Murdoch press.
And will they now start conducting research (bullying) into their own disillusioned colleagues who no longer espouse Global Warming so went to the press themselves to begin with?
Why shoot the messenger?
The media is just that, a medium!!
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boxy
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Re: Global Warming
We shall see, shan't we
"But you will run your fluffy bunny mouth at me. And I will take it, to play poker."
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Outlaw Yogi
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Re: Global Warming
I note from Mellie's links the denial crowd are now recycling their already debunked theories.
A few years ago the denial crowd, now calling themselves skeptics, would say virtually anything no matter how ridiculous so long as it disputed the GHG instigated GW scenario.
Now it's no longer a matter of denying the existence of GW, but an anything goes charade to dispute anything related to GHG induced GW, from the speed of ocean level rises to unexpected temperature anomolies, but the fact is as much as they wish GW didn't exist or would go away, it won't, forcing them to address GW as an active phenomena. Like so ..
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nationa ... 6099350056
Recently (couple of months ago) the Australian published an article 'Tide of ?' [can't remember last word in title]. It was a Climate Change article on the differing opinions of the various so called experts excuses or reasons for failing to predict ocean level rises had hastened/sped up. The article like most current attempts to down play GW/CC was pretty ordinary but was accompanied by an interesting map.
The map (of Oz) showed [in colour] the differing sea level rises around the country. The rises are not uniform, but might rise 4mm in a year on one part of the coast and 10mm a year on another part of coastline on the same continent.
One thing I noticed was sea level rise along NSW south coast was greater than that of Sydney. Knowing that the NSW south coast has land subsidence from coal mines, and tunnels that literally extend out under the ocean floor. When you blow the pillars in a coal mine, all the ground above eventually will sink, so land subsidence would explain why some areas suffer greater impact than others. I also noticed the same thing was happening around Bowen Qld, and the Bowen basin just like NSW south coast is littered with coal mines, and as the map illustrated the same affect in both areas, I presume Bowen coal mines also extend out under the ocean floor.
Regarding GW/CC per se, fact is during the last ice age temperatures got colder and colder for roughly 100,000 years. Then 21,000 years ago it stopped getting colder, and temps remained static for 3000 years til 18,000 years ago. That 3,000 year period is known as the 'Last Glacial Maximum' (LGM). 18,000 the ice age ended, temps rose and have continued to do so since. 17,000 years ago there was a global flood from melt water. And again 14,000 years ago, and then 11,600 years ago it happened again.
People can deny GW/CC all they like, but they can't stop it, no matter what.
A few years ago the denial crowd, now calling themselves skeptics, would say virtually anything no matter how ridiculous so long as it disputed the GHG instigated GW scenario.
Now it's no longer a matter of denying the existence of GW, but an anything goes charade to dispute anything related to GHG induced GW, from the speed of ocean level rises to unexpected temperature anomolies, but the fact is as much as they wish GW didn't exist or would go away, it won't, forcing them to address GW as an active phenomena. Like so ..
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nationa ... 6099350056
Recently (couple of months ago) the Australian published an article 'Tide of ?' [can't remember last word in title]. It was a Climate Change article on the differing opinions of the various so called experts excuses or reasons for failing to predict ocean level rises had hastened/sped up. The article like most current attempts to down play GW/CC was pretty ordinary but was accompanied by an interesting map.
The map (of Oz) showed [in colour] the differing sea level rises around the country. The rises are not uniform, but might rise 4mm in a year on one part of the coast and 10mm a year on another part of coastline on the same continent.
One thing I noticed was sea level rise along NSW south coast was greater than that of Sydney. Knowing that the NSW south coast has land subsidence from coal mines, and tunnels that literally extend out under the ocean floor. When you blow the pillars in a coal mine, all the ground above eventually will sink, so land subsidence would explain why some areas suffer greater impact than others. I also noticed the same thing was happening around Bowen Qld, and the Bowen basin just like NSW south coast is littered with coal mines, and as the map illustrated the same affect in both areas, I presume Bowen coal mines also extend out under the ocean floor.
Regarding GW/CC per se, fact is during the last ice age temperatures got colder and colder for roughly 100,000 years. Then 21,000 years ago it stopped getting colder, and temps remained static for 3000 years til 18,000 years ago. That 3,000 year period is known as the 'Last Glacial Maximum' (LGM). 18,000 the ice age ended, temps rose and have continued to do so since. 17,000 years ago there was a global flood from melt water. And again 14,000 years ago, and then 11,600 years ago it happened again.
People can deny GW/CC all they like, but they can't stop it, no matter what.
If Donald Trump is so close to the Ruskis, why couldn't he get Vladimir Putin to put novichok in Xi Jjinping's lipstick?
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Rorschach
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Re: Global Warming
really? I wouldn't put any faith in anything mel posts.I note from Mellie's links the denial crowd are now recycling their already debunked theories.
I gather that warming wasn't due to man-made anything....Regarding GW/CC per se, fact is during the last ice age temperatures got colder and colder for roughly 100,000 years. Then 21,000 years ago it stopped getting colder, and temps remained static for 3000 years til 18,000 years ago. That 3,000 year period is known as the 'Last Glacial Maximum' (LGM). 18,000 the ice age ended, temps rose and have continued to do so since. 17,000 years ago there was a global flood from melt water. And again 14,000 years ago, and then 11,600 years ago it happened again.
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mellie
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Re: Global Warming
Note: Only 52 scientists agreed to IPCC 2007 summary report linking human CO2 to global warming. In contrast, 650 scientists have publicly announced their disagreement with the theory of man-made global warming. In addition, 31,000 American scientists/researchers have signed the Oregon Petition stating their direct opposition to the Kyoto global warming agreement. Approximately 17,000 signers have a PhD or a M.S. (additional details of signers listed here).
(If you are interested in an analysis of IPCC scientists who support man-made global warming visit the link below)
Quote by John Dewey: “Scepticism: the mark and even the pose of the educated mind.”
Quote by Gerrit van der Lingen, scientist: “Being a scientist means being a skeptic.”
Quote by David Packham, former principle research scientist with Australia’s CSIRO, an officer in the Australian Bureau of Meteorology: “I find that I am uncomfortable with the quality of the science being applied to the global warming question. This lack of comfort comes from many directions: A lack of actual measurements for terrestrial radiation and the use of deemed values for particulate radiation absorption; the failure to consider the role of particulates from biomatter burning; the lack of critical thought and total acceptance of the global warming models as the conclusive evidence."
Quote by Thomas B. Gray former head Space Services branch at the NOAA and a researcher in NOAA’s Environmental Research Laboratories: “Nothing that is occurring in weather or in climate research at this time can be shown to be abnormal in the light of our knowledge of climate variations over geologic time...The claims of those convinced that AGW (anthropogenic global warming) is real and dangerous are not supported by reliable data.”
Quote by Colin Robinson, founder of the Department of Economics- University of Surrey UK, Fellow of the Royal Statistical Society: “One does not have to be a ‘climate change denier’ to see that a degree of skepticism about the present consensus might be in order....Most likely, now – as in the past – many analysts have become carried away by the results of their models, which purport to look into a far distant future, and have convinced themselves that they must embark on a crusade to enlighten others.”
Quote by Claude Culross, organic chemistry: “Fossils from our Holocene Era reveal a northern tree line approaching the Arctic Ocean. Surely it was warm enough then to preclude pack ice, and perhaps summer ice, from natural causes, and at only three-quarters of today’s carbon-dioxide level....Climate that seems unusual, but falls within the natural envelope of past climate, is no proof of man-made global warming.”
Quote by F. James Cripwell, physicist, former scientist with UK’s Cavendish Laboratory: “I am reminded of a quite well-known commercial in North America from Wendy’s, ‘Where’s the beef?’ When it comes to the [UN] IPCC claim that the increased level of CO2 in the atmosphere is the cause of global warming, where’s the science?....on the differences between astronomy and astrology, both use the same data of the relative positions and motions of the earth, sun, moon, planets and stars; both have long complex calculations; both result in numerical answers. In the case of astronomy, the numbers have a scientific meaning; in the case of astrology, they do not. It seems to me that this claim of doubling the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere resulting in a linear addition to the radiative forcing is more akin to astrology than it is to astronomy.”x
Quote by Mike MiConnell, hydrologist/geologist, professional Earth scientist U.S. Forest Service: “Our understanding on the complexities of our climate system, the Earth itself and even the sun are still quite limited. Scaring people into submission is not the answer to get people to change their environmental ways...if Earth was suffering under an accelerated greenhouse effect caused by human produced addition of CO2, the troposphere should heat up faster than the surface of the planet, but data collected from satellites and weather balloons do not support this fundamental presumption even though we are seeing higher CO2. We ought to see near lockstep temperature increments along with higher CO2 concentration over time, especially over the last several years. But we're not.”
Quote by David Bellamy, biologist: “Global warming — at least the modern nightmare vision — is a myth. I am sure of it and so are a growing number of scientists. But what is really worrying is that the world's politicians and policy makers are not.”
Quote by Lynwood Yarbrough, biochemist and molecular biologist, served as a consultant for the National Institutes of Health: “I consider myself a scientific skeptic and want to be convinced by the data before I accept something as ‘true.’ As a biologist, I am aware of a number of cases in which science has been led in directions not based on hard evidence. Examples include Malthus and the Malthusian Theory, Lysenkoism in the old Soviet Union, and eugenics in the U.S. and elsewhere.”
Quote by Christopher de Freitas, climate scientist, University of Auckland: "Climate is not responding to greenhouse gases in the way we thought it might. If increasing carbon dioxide is in fact increasing climate change, its impact is smaller than natural variation. People are being misled by people making money out of this."
Quote by Patrick Frank, chemist, author of more than 50 peer-reviewed articles: “But there is no scientific basis whatever to assert this warming is caused by human-produced greenhouse gasses because current physical theory is too grossly inadequate to establish any cause at all. Nevertheless, those who advocate extreme policies to reduce carbon dioxide emissions inevitably base their case on GCM projections, which somehow become real predictions in publicity releases....“General Circulation Models [GCM] are so terribly unreliable....even if extreme events do develop because of a warming climate, there is no scientifically valid reason to attribute the cause to human produced CO2."
Quote by Henrik Svensmark, scientist, Danish National Space Centre: “… those who are absolutely certain that the rise in temperatures is due solely to carbon dioxide have no scientific justification. It's pure guesswork.”
Quote by Greg Benson, earth scientist, geologic study/geologic modeling: “Geologists and paleo-climatologists know that in the past the Earth's temperature has been substantially warmer than it is today, and that this warming has occurred under purely natural circumstances. Until we can say precisely how much of the current global warming and greenhouse gas increase is the result of this normal temperature cycle, we will not be able to measure how much human activity has added to this natural trend, nor will we be able to predict whether there will be any lasting negative effects.”
Quote by Arun D. Ahluwalia, geologist, Punjab University: “The IPCC has actually become a closed circuit; it doesn’t listen to others. It doesn’t have open minds… I am really amazed that the Nobel Peace Prize has been given on scientifically incorrect conclusions by people who are not geologists.”
Quote by William M. Briggs, climate statistician: “After reading [UN IPCC chairman] Pachauri's asinine comment [comparing skeptics to] Flat Earthers, it's hard to remain quiet....The skill of climate forecasts---global climate models---upon which the vast majority of global warming science is based are not well investigated, but what is known is that these models do not do a good job at reproducing past, known climates, nor at predicting future climates.”
Quote by B.P. Radhakrishna, President of the Geological Society of India: "We appear to be overplaying this global warming issue as global warming is nothing new. It has happened in the past, not once but several times, giving rise to glacial-interglacial cycles."
Quote by Marcel Leroux, climatologist, director of the Laboratory of Climatology, Risks, and Environment in Lyon: "Non-believers in the greenhouse scenario are in the position of those long ago who doubted the existence of God ... fortunately for them, the Inquisition is no longer with us!"
Quote by Nir Shariv, physicist, Racah Institute of Physics: “Like many others, I was personally sure that CO2 is the bad culprit in the story of global warming. But after carefully digging into the evidence, I realized that things are far more complicated than the story sold to us by many climate scientists or the stories regurgitated by the media. In fact, there is much more than meets the eye.”
Quote by David Evans, scientist, former global warming researcher, now a skeptic: "Land-based temperature readings are corrupted by the "urban heat island" effect: urban areas encroaching on thermometer stations warm the micro-climate around the thermometer, due to vegetation changes, concrete, cars, houses. Satellite data is the only temperature data we can trust, but it only goes back to 1979. NASA reports only land-based data, and reports a modest warming trend and recent cooling. The other three global temperature records use a mix of satellite and land measurements, or satellite only, and they all show no warming since 2001 and a recent cooling."
Quote by William F. McClenney, professional geologist and former Certified Environmental Auditor, former global warming proponent: “I believed [global warming theory]. It made sense....he then conducted extensive climate research and wrote a detailed analysis announcing that he had reversed his views....“did the math and realized that you just can’t get to global warming with CO2.”
Quote by Michael F. Farona, chemist/biochemist, emeritus professor of Chemistry, University of Akron and University of North Carolina: “What is the relationship between an increased level of carbon dioxide and temperature? Can it be predicted that an increase of so many parts per billion of carbon dioxide will cause an increase of so many degrees? I have not seen any answers to the questions posed above, leading me to adopt a somewhat skeptical view of blaming global warming on human activities. What puzzles me is the reluctance of climatologists to provide scientific data supporting their dire predictions of the near future if we don't change our ways.”
Quote by Oliver K. Manuel, professor of nuclear chemistry, the University of Missouri: “...[there is an] irrational basis of the current scare over global warming...Compared to solar magnetic fields, however, the carbon dioxide production has as much influence on climate as a flea has on the weight of an elephant.”
Quote by Peter R. Leavitt, President-Weather Information, served on the National Research Council’s Board on Atmospheric Science and Climate: “Progress in science is driven by skepticism. Dogmatism more often inhibits progress than fosters it.... There are numerous reasons to support a skeptical viewpoint. Most of the proponents of AGW rely on computer models to make their case. Very little substantive work has been done in showing that the magnitude of the influence of CO2 on climate change suggested by the various models can be derived directly through the application of first principles. There is considerable evidence that there are grievous shortcomings in the quality of the data especially with regards to the accuracy and representativeness of the surface temperature record acquired from both inland and ocean areas and upon which the various models depend."
Quote by José Ramón Arévalo, professor of Ecology-University of La Laguna, Spain: “Climate warming is more an ideology,....so, as an ideology is perfect to me, the problem is when administrators become members of this sect, and then they have to spend millions in demonstrating their ideology.”
Quote by Walter Cunningham, NASA astronaut/physicist, Apollo 7: “NASA should be at the forefront in the collection of scientific evidence and debunking the current hysteria over human-caused, or Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW). Unfortunately, it is becoming just another agency caught up in the politics of global warming, or worse, politicized science.”
Quote by James A. Peden, former atmospheric physicist with U.S. Space Research and Coordination Center: "As a dissenting physicist, I simply can no longer buy the notion that CO2 produces any significant warming of the atmosphere at any rate. I’ve studied the atomic absorption physics to death, it simply doesn’t add up. Even if every single IR photon absorbed by a CO2 molecule were magically transformed into purely thermal translational modes , the pitifully small quantity of CO2 in the atmosphere doesn’t add up to much additional heat."
Quote by William Kininmonth, former head of Australia's National Climate Centre, consultant to the World Meteorological Organisation: "These specific computer models have a much exaggerated response to carbon dioxide and their response has been misinterpreted as a potential for "runaway global warming....This has led to unfounded claims of "tipping points" and "irreversibility" of the climate trends, and that the danger from anthropogenic global warming is even greater than IPCC has projected....In reality, runaway global warming is an illogical concept."
Quote by Augusto Mangini, paleoclimate expert, University of Heidelberg: "I consider the part of the IPCC report, which I can really judge as an expert, i.e. the reconstruction of the paleoclimate, wrong...The earth will not die."
Quote by Takeda Kunihiko, vice-chancellor of the Institute of Science and Technology Research at Chubu University: “CO2 emissions make absolutely no difference one way or another….Every scientist knows this, but it doesn’t pay to say so…Global warming, as a political vehicle, keeps Europeans in the driver’s seat and developing nations walking barefoot.”
Quote by Chief Meteorologist Eugenio Hackbart of the MetSul Meteorologia: "The media is promoting an unprecedented hyping related to global warming. The media and many scientists are ignoring very important facts that point to a natural variation in the climate system as the cause of the recent global warming."
Quote by Oleg Sorochtin of the Institute of Oceanology, Russian Academy of Sciences : "Even if the concentration of ‘greenhouse gases' double man would not perceive the temperature impact."
Quote by Nathan Paldor, Professor of Dynamical Meteorology and Physical Oceanography: "First, temperature changes, as well as rates of temperature changes (both increase and decrease) of magnitudes similar to that reported by IPCC to have occurred since the Industrial revolution have occurred in Earth's climatic history. There's nothing special about the recent rise!"
Quote by Hendrik Tennekes, internationally recognized expert in atmospheric boundary layer processes: "I find the Doomsday picture Al Gore is painting - a six-meter sea level rise, fifteen times the IPCC number - entirely without merit...I protest vigorously the idea that the climate reacts like a home heating system to a changed setting of the thermostat: just turn the dial, and the desired temperature will soon be reached."
Quote by Robert Durrenberger, climatologist, past president American Association of State Climatologists: "Al Gore brought me back to the battle and prompted me to do renewed research in the field of climatology. And because of all the misinformation that Gore and his army have been spreading about climate change I have decided that ‘real' climatologists should try to help the public understand the nature of the problem."
Quote by R. W. Bradnock, scientist, former head of geography at the School of Oriental and African Studies, Senior Visiting Research Fellow at King’s College London, field-based research on sea level and environmental change: “There remain many academics from a wide range of fields who question the evidence, and who believe that the catalogue of woes directly attributed to ‘global warming’ cannot be reduced simply to an increase in the proportion of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere from 280 parts per million by volume to 384 ppm.”
Quote by Geoffrey Kearsley, geographer, environmental communication-University of Otago, director of Wilderness Research Foundation: “The longer trends tell us that by 2020, we will be experiencing an unusually low-energy sun. Apparently, these are exactly the conditions that preceded the Maunder Minimum and ushered in the Little Ice Age. The science goes on. “There is an increasing body of science that says that the sun may have a greater role. If it does have, then global warming is likely to stop, as it appears to have done since 1998, and if the current sunspot cycle fails to ignite, then cooling, possibly rapid and severe cooling, may eventuate.”
Quote by Tom V. Segalstad, geologist/geochemist, head of the Geological Museum - University of Oslo, past expert reviewer with the UN IPCC: "It is a search for a mythical CO2 sink to explain an immeasurable CO2 lifetime to fit a hypothetical CO2 computer model that purports to show that an impossible amount of fossil fuel burning is heating the atmosphere. It is all a fiction."
Quote by Antonio Zichichi, president of the World Federation of Scientists and a retired Professor of Advanced Physics: "Significant new peer-reviewed research has cast even more doubt on the hypothesis of dangerous human-caused global warming."
Quote by Frederick Seitz, Past President, U.S. National Academy of Sciences: "This treaty [Kyoto] is, in our opinion, based upon flawed ideas. Research data on climate change do not show that human use of hydrocarbons is harmful. To the contrary, there is good evidence that increased atmospheric carbon dioxide is environmentally helpful...agreement would have very negative effects upon the technology of nations throughout the world, especially those that are currently attempting to lift from poverty and provide opportunities to the over 4 billion people in technologically underdeveloped countries."
Quote by Richard Courtney, a UN IPCC expert reviewer, climate/atmospheric science consultant: "To date, no convincing evidence for AGW (anthropogenic global warming) has been discovered. And recent global climate behavior is not consistent with AGW model predictions."
Quote by Don Aitkin, University of Canberra, founder and past chairman of the Australian Mathematics Trust: “Is the warming unprecedented? Probably not. There is abundant historical and proxy evidence for both hotter and cooler periods in human history. Is it our fault? Again, maybe. The correlation of increasing warmth with increasing carbon dioxide concentrations is particularly weak; that with solar energy and with ocean movements is much stronger.”
Quote by Boris Winterhalter, retired scientist of marine geology at University of Helsinki: "The effect of solar winds on cosmic radiation has just recently been established and, furthermore, there seems to be a good correlation between cloudiness and variations in the intensity of cosmic radiation. Here we have a mechanism which is a far better explanation to variations in global climate than the attempts by IPCC to blame it all on anthropogenic input of greenhouse gases."
Quote by Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, researcher, Institute of Geophysics of the National Autonomous University of Mexico: “The models and forecasts of the UN IPCC "are incorrect because they only are based on mathematical models and presented results at scenarios that do not include, for example, solar activity.”
Quote by Zbigniew Jaworowski, former chairman of the United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation (UNSCEAR): "We thus find ourselves in the situation that the entire theory of man-made global warming-with its repercussions in science, and its important consequences for politics and the global economy-is based on ice core studies that provided a false picture of the atmospheric CO2 levels."
Quote by Geoffrey G. Duffy, Scientist, Department of Chemical and Materials Engineering of the University of Auckland: “Even doubling or tripling the amount of carbon dioxide will virtually have little impact, as water vapour and water condensed on particles as clouds dominate the worldwide scene and always will.”
Quote by Peter R. Leavitt, President-Weather Information, served on the National Research Council’s Board on Atmospheric Science and Climate: "The peer review process as applied to AGW studies is deeply flawed. It lacks transparency and accountability.”
Quote by Michael J. Myers, analytical chemist, specializes in spectroscopy and atmospheric sensing: “‘Scientific’ computer simulations predict global warming based on increased greenhouse gas emissions over time. However, without water's contribution taken into account they omit the largest greenhouse gas from their equations. How can such egregious calculation errors be so blatantly ignored? This is why man-made global warming is ‘junk’ science.”
Quote by Habibullo Abdusamatov, Head of the Space Research Laboratory, Russia: “Global warming results not from the emission of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, but from an unusually high level of solar radiation and a lengthy — almost throughout the last century — growth in its intensity.
Quote by Roger W. Cohen, physics, American Physical Society fellow: “At this point there is little doubt that the IPCC position is seriously flawed in its central position that humanity is responsible for most of the observed warming of the last third of the 20th century, and in its projections for effects in the 21st century.”
Quote by David Wojick, UN IPCC expert reviewer, co-founded the Department of Engineering and Public Policy at Carnegie-Mellon University: "In point of fact, the hypothesis that solar variability and not human activity is warming the oceans goes a long way to explain the puzzling idea that the Earth's surface may be warming while the atmosphere is not. The GHG (greenhouse gas) hypothesis does not do this....The public is not well served by this constant drumbeat of false alarms fed by computer models manipulated by advocates."
Quote by Miklós Zágoni, Hungarian environmental researcher, physicist, reversed his view of man-made warming and is now a skeptic: “Nature's regulatory instrument is water vapor: more carbon dioxide leads to less moisture in the air, keeping the overall GHG [greenhouse gas] content in accord with the necessary balance conditions.”
Quote by Andrei Kapitsa, a Russian geographer and Antarctic ice core researcher: “The Kyoto theorists have put the cart before the horse. It is global warming that triggers higher levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, not the other way round.”
Quote by Wolfgang P. Thuene, former analyst and forecaster for the German Weather Service, German Environmental Protection Agency: “All temperature and weather observations indicate that the earth isn’t like a greenhouse and that there is in reality no ‘natural greenhouse effect’ which could warm up the earth by its own emitted energy and cause by re-emission a ‘global warming effect’. With or without atmosphere every body looses heat, gets inevitably colder....the most perfect thermos flask can’t avoid that the hot coffee really gets cold. The hypothesis of a natural and a man-made ‘greenhouse effect’, like eugenics, belongs to the category ‘scientific errors.”
Quote by Robert DeFayette, chemist and nuclear engineer, NASA’s Plum Brook Reactor, served as consultant to the Department of Energy: “I freely admit I am a skeptic....Until a few months ago, scientists believed we had 9 planets, but now we have 8 because Pluto was demoted....At the time of Columbus, the scientific consensus was that the earth was flat but obviously that was wrong. In the late 18th century, ‘Neptunists’ were convinced that all of the rocks of the Earth’s crust had been precipitated from water, a British geologist characterized the supporting evidence as ‘incontrovertible....In each of these cases there was ‘scientific consensus’ that eventually was rejected.”
Quote by Dennis Hollars, astrophysicist: “Man-made global warming is basically flawed science at this point. We do not have sufficient temperature data to even decide if there is a planetary scale warming, let alone what the cause might be. In the ’70s it was global cooling that was the scare - by many of the same people who are pushing warming now, using models that are not even close to reality.”
Quote by George Reisman, economist, emeritus professor-Pepperdine University: “Global warming is not a threat. But environmentalism’s response to it is....Even if global warming is a fact, the free citizens of an industrial civilization will have no great difficulty in coping with it—that is, of course, if their ability to use energy and to produce is not crippled by the environmental movement and by government controls otherwise inspired.”
Quote by Victor Pochat, president of the Argentine Institute of Water Resources and professor of water resources planning at Universidad del Litoral: “....it is not clear that increases of a few degrees in average temperature of the planet is directly related to human activity but could be due to cyclical effects....Scientists that deserve credit for their background say global warming is a climatic variability associated to cycles of warming and cooling of the Earth.”
Quote by Don Aitkin, University of Canberra, founder and past chairman of the Australian Mathematics Trust: “Are we likely to see rising sea-levels? Not in our lifetimes or hose of our grandchildren. It is not even clear that sea-levels have risen at all. As so often in this domain, there is conflicting evidence. The melting of polar or sea ice has no direct effect.”
Quote by Robert Woock, senior geophysicist at Stone Energy, past president-Southwest Louisiana Geophysical Society: “I do not see any evidence in nature or data to suggest that we are in any anthropologic climate cycle....We have certainly created local climes, hot cities and deforestation that affect certain areas, but these are reversible to a large degree.”
Quote by Jarl R. Ahlbeck, scientist, a chemical engineer at Abo Akademi University in Finland, former Greenpeace member: “So far, real measurements give no ground for concern about a catastrophic future warming.”
Quote by Art V. Douglas, former Chair of the Atmospheric Sciences Department at Creighton University: “Whatever the weather, it's not being caused by global warming. If anything, the climate may be starting into a cooling period.”
Quote by Patrick Frank, chemist, authored more than 50 peer-reviewed articles: “But there is no falsifiable scientific basis whatever to assert this warming is caused by human-produced greenhouse gasses because current physical theory is too grossly inadequate to establish any cause at all.”
Quote by Richard Keen, climatologist, Department of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences University of Colorado: “Earth has cooled since 1998 in defiance of the predictions by the UN-IPCC….The global temperature for 2007 was the coldest in a decade and the coldest of the millennium…which is why ‘global warming’ is now called ‘climate change.’”
Quote by G LeBlanc Smith, a retired Principal Research Scientist with Australia’s Commonwealth Scientific and Research Organization (CSIRO): “I have yet to see credible proof of carbon dioxide driving climate change, yet alone man-made CO2 driving it. The atmospheric hot-spot is missing and the ice core data refute this. When will we collectively awake from this deceptive delusion?”
Quote by Philip Lloyd, a UN IPCC co-coordinating lead author, nuclear physcist: “The quantity of CO2 we produce is insignificant in terms of the natural circulation between air, water and soil....I am doing a detailed assessment of the UN IPCC reports and the Summaries for Policy Makers, identifying the way in which the Summaries have distorted the science.”
Quote by John Takeuchi, meteorologist: “Politicians have come to see global warming as a way to raise revenue by rationing CO2 production with schemes such as the ‘cap and trade’ legislation now in Congress. The taxes assessed for producing CO2 could be huge. But global warming as proclaimed by Al Gore and Co., is a hoax.”
Quote by Kenneth P. Green, environmental scientist, the American Enterprise Institute: “While I believe that Earth has experienced a
mild, non-enhanced greenhouse warming which will continue in the foreseeable future, I think the chaotic nature of the climate system makes projections of the future climate no better than science fiction....I am intensely skeptical of the entire process of predictive climate modeling, from its ability to meaningfully predict the climate in the future, to its ability to tell us how much of activity A would result in climate change B. These models have so many parameters that can be arbitrarily ‘tuned’ as to make them little more than a tool for mathematizing the fantasy scenarios of the programmers who set up and run the programs.”
Quote by Don Aitkin, University of Canberra, founder and past chairman of the Australian Mathematics Trust: “How reliable are the computer [climate] models on which possible future climates are based? Not very. All will agree that the task of modeling climate is vast, because of the estimates that have to be made and the rubbery quality of much of the data.”
Quote by Perry Ong, director of the Institute of Biology at the UP College of Science, Phillipines: “Climate change has become a convenient excuse when there are other [environmental] issues that need to be addressed....If we disproportionately blame ourselves for [climate change], our response will be different....we should look at the [bigger picture] and address other issues....there are 12 serious environment problems that need to be addressed in order to effectively deal with climate change....issues are: The destruction and conversion of forest, ocean, fresh water systems and other natural habitats; overharvesting of wild foods; the loss of biodiversity; excess fossil fuel extraction; soil erosion and swelling human population.”
Quote by Pal Brekke, solar physicist, senior advisor Norwegian Space Centre: “Anyone who claims that the debate is over and the conclusions are firm has a fundamentally unscientific approach to one of the most momentous issues of our time.”
Quote by Frederick Seitz, Past President, U.S. National Academy of Sciences: The IPCC “is pre-programmed to produce reports to support the hypotheses of anthropogenic warming and the control of greenhouse gases, as envisioned in the Global Climate Treaty....the 1990 IPCC Summary “completely ignored satellite data, since they showed no warming. The 1995 IPCC report was notorious for the significant alterations made to the text after it was approved by the scientists — in order to convey the impression of a human influence. The 2001 IPCC report claimed the twentieth century showed ‘unusual warming’ based on the now-discredited hockey stick graph. The latest IPCC report, published in 2007, completely devaluates the climate contributions from changes in solar activities, which are likely to dominate any human influence.”
Quote by Sherwood Thoele, analytical chemist and mathematician: “Because CO2 is slightly soluble in water and will come back to the Earth with precipitation, nature corrects for any excess, just as it does with other excess materials from volcanoes and forest fires. Nature recycles all of what it considers excess very efficiently.”
Gerhard Lobert, physicist, Recipient of The Needle of Honor of German Aeronautics: “The hypothesis that the global warming of the past decades is man-made is based on the results of calculations with climate models in which the main influence on climate is not included. The most important climate driver (besides solar luminosity) comes from the interplay of solar activity, interplanetary magnetic field strength, cosmic radiation intensity, and cloud cover of the Earth atmosphere.”
Quote by Jon Hartzler, retired science professor from St. Cloud State University: "There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.”
Quote by Colin Robinson, founder of the Department of Economics- University of Surrey UK, Fellow of the Royal Statistical Society: “Human myopia cannot be overcome simply by well-meaning attempts to build [climate] models that purport to peer decades and centuries ahead. Action taken now, in anticipation of supposed long run trends, may concentrate on the wrong issues and make matters worse rather than better.”
Quote by Topper Shutt, chief meterologist, Washington D.C. Channel 9: “Global warming is such a politically charged issue that we are losing our perspective on the issue and more importantly losing an open forum from which to discuss the issue. If we lose the right or comfort level to openly discuss and debate this issue we will not be able to tackle it efficiently and economically.”
Quote by Don Aitkin, University of Canberra, founder and past chairman of the Australian Mathematics Trust: “Why is there such insistence that AGW has occurred and needs drastic solutions? This is a puzzle, but my short answer is that the IPCC has been built on the AGW proposition and of course keeps plugging it, whatever the data say. The IPCC has considerable clout. Most people shy off inspecting the evidence because it looks like science and must therefore be hard. The media have been captured by AGW (it makes for great stories), the environmental movement and the Greens love it, and business is reluctant to get involved.”
Quote by John McLean, climate data analyst, Australian Climate Science Coalition: "The IPCC leads us to believe that this statement ['it is very highly likely that greenhouse gas forcing has been the dominant cause of the observed global warming over the last 50 years'] is very much supported by the majority of reviewers. The reality is that there is surprisingly little explicit support for this key notion. Among the 23 independent reviewers [of IPCC report] just 4 explicitly endorsed the chapter with its hypothesis."xx
Quote by Nigel Lawson, former Chancellor of the Exchequer of UK : “Not only is the Kyoto approach to global warming wrong-headed, the climate change establishment's suppression of dissent and criticism is little short of a scandal. The IPCC should be shut down.”
Quote by Jay Lehr, science director Heartland Institute: “The European Union and environmental advocacy groups use global warming hysteria to advance their own special agendas. The European Union recognizes any significant reduction in CO2 emissions by the United States will significantly reduce its economic output, thereby bringing it closer to the inferior output of European nations.”
Quote by Vincent Gray, climate scientist, expert reviewer on every single draft of the IPCC reports: "The [IPCC] ‘Summary for Policymakers' might get a few readers, but the main purpose of the report is to provide a spurious scientific backup for the absurd claims of the worldwide environmentalist lobby that it has been established scientifically that increases in carbon dioxide are harmful to the climate. It just does not matter that this ain't so."
Quote by Vaclav Klaus, President of the Czech Republic: (The IPCC is) “not a scientific body capable of accurately assessing the facts about global warming”.
Quote by Harlan Watson, U.S. negotiator at UN Climate Change convention: “The Kyoto protocol was a political agreement. It was not based on science.”
Quote by Kirill Kondratyev, scientist, Russian Academy of Sciences: “The only people who would be hurt by abandoning the Kyoto Protocol would be several thousand people who make a living attending conferences on global warming.”
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Quote by John Dewey: “Scepticism: the mark and even the pose of the educated mind.”
Quote by Gerrit van der Lingen, scientist: “Being a scientist means being a skeptic.”
Quote by David Packham, former principle research scientist with Australia’s CSIRO, an officer in the Australian Bureau of Meteorology: “I find that I am uncomfortable with the quality of the science being applied to the global warming question. This lack of comfort comes from many directions: A lack of actual measurements for terrestrial radiation and the use of deemed values for particulate radiation absorption; the failure to consider the role of particulates from biomatter burning; the lack of critical thought and total acceptance of the global warming models as the conclusive evidence."
Quote by Thomas B. Gray former head Space Services branch at the NOAA and a researcher in NOAA’s Environmental Research Laboratories: “Nothing that is occurring in weather or in climate research at this time can be shown to be abnormal in the light of our knowledge of climate variations over geologic time...The claims of those convinced that AGW (anthropogenic global warming) is real and dangerous are not supported by reliable data.”
Quote by Colin Robinson, founder of the Department of Economics- University of Surrey UK, Fellow of the Royal Statistical Society: “One does not have to be a ‘climate change denier’ to see that a degree of skepticism about the present consensus might be in order....Most likely, now – as in the past – many analysts have become carried away by the results of their models, which purport to look into a far distant future, and have convinced themselves that they must embark on a crusade to enlighten others.”
Quote by Claude Culross, organic chemistry: “Fossils from our Holocene Era reveal a northern tree line approaching the Arctic Ocean. Surely it was warm enough then to preclude pack ice, and perhaps summer ice, from natural causes, and at only three-quarters of today’s carbon-dioxide level....Climate that seems unusual, but falls within the natural envelope of past climate, is no proof of man-made global warming.”
Quote by F. James Cripwell, physicist, former scientist with UK’s Cavendish Laboratory: “I am reminded of a quite well-known commercial in North America from Wendy’s, ‘Where’s the beef?’ When it comes to the [UN] IPCC claim that the increased level of CO2 in the atmosphere is the cause of global warming, where’s the science?....on the differences between astronomy and astrology, both use the same data of the relative positions and motions of the earth, sun, moon, planets and stars; both have long complex calculations; both result in numerical answers. In the case of astronomy, the numbers have a scientific meaning; in the case of astrology, they do not. It seems to me that this claim of doubling the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere resulting in a linear addition to the radiative forcing is more akin to astrology than it is to astronomy.”x
Quote by Mike MiConnell, hydrologist/geologist, professional Earth scientist U.S. Forest Service: “Our understanding on the complexities of our climate system, the Earth itself and even the sun are still quite limited. Scaring people into submission is not the answer to get people to change their environmental ways...if Earth was suffering under an accelerated greenhouse effect caused by human produced addition of CO2, the troposphere should heat up faster than the surface of the planet, but data collected from satellites and weather balloons do not support this fundamental presumption even though we are seeing higher CO2. We ought to see near lockstep temperature increments along with higher CO2 concentration over time, especially over the last several years. But we're not.”
Quote by David Bellamy, biologist: “Global warming — at least the modern nightmare vision — is a myth. I am sure of it and so are a growing number of scientists. But what is really worrying is that the world's politicians and policy makers are not.”
Quote by Lynwood Yarbrough, biochemist and molecular biologist, served as a consultant for the National Institutes of Health: “I consider myself a scientific skeptic and want to be convinced by the data before I accept something as ‘true.’ As a biologist, I am aware of a number of cases in which science has been led in directions not based on hard evidence. Examples include Malthus and the Malthusian Theory, Lysenkoism in the old Soviet Union, and eugenics in the U.S. and elsewhere.”
Quote by Christopher de Freitas, climate scientist, University of Auckland: "Climate is not responding to greenhouse gases in the way we thought it might. If increasing carbon dioxide is in fact increasing climate change, its impact is smaller than natural variation. People are being misled by people making money out of this."
Quote by Patrick Frank, chemist, author of more than 50 peer-reviewed articles: “But there is no scientific basis whatever to assert this warming is caused by human-produced greenhouse gasses because current physical theory is too grossly inadequate to establish any cause at all. Nevertheless, those who advocate extreme policies to reduce carbon dioxide emissions inevitably base their case on GCM projections, which somehow become real predictions in publicity releases....“General Circulation Models [GCM] are so terribly unreliable....even if extreme events do develop because of a warming climate, there is no scientifically valid reason to attribute the cause to human produced CO2."
Quote by Henrik Svensmark, scientist, Danish National Space Centre: “… those who are absolutely certain that the rise in temperatures is due solely to carbon dioxide have no scientific justification. It's pure guesswork.”
Quote by Greg Benson, earth scientist, geologic study/geologic modeling: “Geologists and paleo-climatologists know that in the past the Earth's temperature has been substantially warmer than it is today, and that this warming has occurred under purely natural circumstances. Until we can say precisely how much of the current global warming and greenhouse gas increase is the result of this normal temperature cycle, we will not be able to measure how much human activity has added to this natural trend, nor will we be able to predict whether there will be any lasting negative effects.”
Quote by Arun D. Ahluwalia, geologist, Punjab University: “The IPCC has actually become a closed circuit; it doesn’t listen to others. It doesn’t have open minds… I am really amazed that the Nobel Peace Prize has been given on scientifically incorrect conclusions by people who are not geologists.”
Quote by William M. Briggs, climate statistician: “After reading [UN IPCC chairman] Pachauri's asinine comment [comparing skeptics to] Flat Earthers, it's hard to remain quiet....The skill of climate forecasts---global climate models---upon which the vast majority of global warming science is based are not well investigated, but what is known is that these models do not do a good job at reproducing past, known climates, nor at predicting future climates.”
Quote by B.P. Radhakrishna, President of the Geological Society of India: "We appear to be overplaying this global warming issue as global warming is nothing new. It has happened in the past, not once but several times, giving rise to glacial-interglacial cycles."
Quote by Marcel Leroux, climatologist, director of the Laboratory of Climatology, Risks, and Environment in Lyon: "Non-believers in the greenhouse scenario are in the position of those long ago who doubted the existence of God ... fortunately for them, the Inquisition is no longer with us!"
Quote by Nir Shariv, physicist, Racah Institute of Physics: “Like many others, I was personally sure that CO2 is the bad culprit in the story of global warming. But after carefully digging into the evidence, I realized that things are far more complicated than the story sold to us by many climate scientists or the stories regurgitated by the media. In fact, there is much more than meets the eye.”
Quote by David Evans, scientist, former global warming researcher, now a skeptic: "Land-based temperature readings are corrupted by the "urban heat island" effect: urban areas encroaching on thermometer stations warm the micro-climate around the thermometer, due to vegetation changes, concrete, cars, houses. Satellite data is the only temperature data we can trust, but it only goes back to 1979. NASA reports only land-based data, and reports a modest warming trend and recent cooling. The other three global temperature records use a mix of satellite and land measurements, or satellite only, and they all show no warming since 2001 and a recent cooling."
Quote by William F. McClenney, professional geologist and former Certified Environmental Auditor, former global warming proponent: “I believed [global warming theory]. It made sense....he then conducted extensive climate research and wrote a detailed analysis announcing that he had reversed his views....“did the math and realized that you just can’t get to global warming with CO2.”
Quote by Michael F. Farona, chemist/biochemist, emeritus professor of Chemistry, University of Akron and University of North Carolina: “What is the relationship between an increased level of carbon dioxide and temperature? Can it be predicted that an increase of so many parts per billion of carbon dioxide will cause an increase of so many degrees? I have not seen any answers to the questions posed above, leading me to adopt a somewhat skeptical view of blaming global warming on human activities. What puzzles me is the reluctance of climatologists to provide scientific data supporting their dire predictions of the near future if we don't change our ways.”
Quote by Oliver K. Manuel, professor of nuclear chemistry, the University of Missouri: “...[there is an] irrational basis of the current scare over global warming...Compared to solar magnetic fields, however, the carbon dioxide production has as much influence on climate as a flea has on the weight of an elephant.”
Quote by Peter R. Leavitt, President-Weather Information, served on the National Research Council’s Board on Atmospheric Science and Climate: “Progress in science is driven by skepticism. Dogmatism more often inhibits progress than fosters it.... There are numerous reasons to support a skeptical viewpoint. Most of the proponents of AGW rely on computer models to make their case. Very little substantive work has been done in showing that the magnitude of the influence of CO2 on climate change suggested by the various models can be derived directly through the application of first principles. There is considerable evidence that there are grievous shortcomings in the quality of the data especially with regards to the accuracy and representativeness of the surface temperature record acquired from both inland and ocean areas and upon which the various models depend."
Quote by José Ramón Arévalo, professor of Ecology-University of La Laguna, Spain: “Climate warming is more an ideology,....so, as an ideology is perfect to me, the problem is when administrators become members of this sect, and then they have to spend millions in demonstrating their ideology.”
Quote by Walter Cunningham, NASA astronaut/physicist, Apollo 7: “NASA should be at the forefront in the collection of scientific evidence and debunking the current hysteria over human-caused, or Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW). Unfortunately, it is becoming just another agency caught up in the politics of global warming, or worse, politicized science.”
Quote by James A. Peden, former atmospheric physicist with U.S. Space Research and Coordination Center: "As a dissenting physicist, I simply can no longer buy the notion that CO2 produces any significant warming of the atmosphere at any rate. I’ve studied the atomic absorption physics to death, it simply doesn’t add up. Even if every single IR photon absorbed by a CO2 molecule were magically transformed into purely thermal translational modes , the pitifully small quantity of CO2 in the atmosphere doesn’t add up to much additional heat."
Quote by William Kininmonth, former head of Australia's National Climate Centre, consultant to the World Meteorological Organisation: "These specific computer models have a much exaggerated response to carbon dioxide and their response has been misinterpreted as a potential for "runaway global warming....This has led to unfounded claims of "tipping points" and "irreversibility" of the climate trends, and that the danger from anthropogenic global warming is even greater than IPCC has projected....In reality, runaway global warming is an illogical concept."
Quote by Augusto Mangini, paleoclimate expert, University of Heidelberg: "I consider the part of the IPCC report, which I can really judge as an expert, i.e. the reconstruction of the paleoclimate, wrong...The earth will not die."
Quote by Takeda Kunihiko, vice-chancellor of the Institute of Science and Technology Research at Chubu University: “CO2 emissions make absolutely no difference one way or another….Every scientist knows this, but it doesn’t pay to say so…Global warming, as a political vehicle, keeps Europeans in the driver’s seat and developing nations walking barefoot.”
Quote by Chief Meteorologist Eugenio Hackbart of the MetSul Meteorologia: "The media is promoting an unprecedented hyping related to global warming. The media and many scientists are ignoring very important facts that point to a natural variation in the climate system as the cause of the recent global warming."
Quote by Oleg Sorochtin of the Institute of Oceanology, Russian Academy of Sciences : "Even if the concentration of ‘greenhouse gases' double man would not perceive the temperature impact."
Quote by Nathan Paldor, Professor of Dynamical Meteorology and Physical Oceanography: "First, temperature changes, as well as rates of temperature changes (both increase and decrease) of magnitudes similar to that reported by IPCC to have occurred since the Industrial revolution have occurred in Earth's climatic history. There's nothing special about the recent rise!"
Quote by Hendrik Tennekes, internationally recognized expert in atmospheric boundary layer processes: "I find the Doomsday picture Al Gore is painting - a six-meter sea level rise, fifteen times the IPCC number - entirely without merit...I protest vigorously the idea that the climate reacts like a home heating system to a changed setting of the thermostat: just turn the dial, and the desired temperature will soon be reached."
Quote by Robert Durrenberger, climatologist, past president American Association of State Climatologists: "Al Gore brought me back to the battle and prompted me to do renewed research in the field of climatology. And because of all the misinformation that Gore and his army have been spreading about climate change I have decided that ‘real' climatologists should try to help the public understand the nature of the problem."
Quote by R. W. Bradnock, scientist, former head of geography at the School of Oriental and African Studies, Senior Visiting Research Fellow at King’s College London, field-based research on sea level and environmental change: “There remain many academics from a wide range of fields who question the evidence, and who believe that the catalogue of woes directly attributed to ‘global warming’ cannot be reduced simply to an increase in the proportion of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere from 280 parts per million by volume to 384 ppm.”
Quote by Geoffrey Kearsley, geographer, environmental communication-University of Otago, director of Wilderness Research Foundation: “The longer trends tell us that by 2020, we will be experiencing an unusually low-energy sun. Apparently, these are exactly the conditions that preceded the Maunder Minimum and ushered in the Little Ice Age. The science goes on. “There is an increasing body of science that says that the sun may have a greater role. If it does have, then global warming is likely to stop, as it appears to have done since 1998, and if the current sunspot cycle fails to ignite, then cooling, possibly rapid and severe cooling, may eventuate.”
Quote by Tom V. Segalstad, geologist/geochemist, head of the Geological Museum - University of Oslo, past expert reviewer with the UN IPCC: "It is a search for a mythical CO2 sink to explain an immeasurable CO2 lifetime to fit a hypothetical CO2 computer model that purports to show that an impossible amount of fossil fuel burning is heating the atmosphere. It is all a fiction."
Quote by Antonio Zichichi, president of the World Federation of Scientists and a retired Professor of Advanced Physics: "Significant new peer-reviewed research has cast even more doubt on the hypothesis of dangerous human-caused global warming."
Quote by Frederick Seitz, Past President, U.S. National Academy of Sciences: "This treaty [Kyoto] is, in our opinion, based upon flawed ideas. Research data on climate change do not show that human use of hydrocarbons is harmful. To the contrary, there is good evidence that increased atmospheric carbon dioxide is environmentally helpful...agreement would have very negative effects upon the technology of nations throughout the world, especially those that are currently attempting to lift from poverty and provide opportunities to the over 4 billion people in technologically underdeveloped countries."
Quote by Richard Courtney, a UN IPCC expert reviewer, climate/atmospheric science consultant: "To date, no convincing evidence for AGW (anthropogenic global warming) has been discovered. And recent global climate behavior is not consistent with AGW model predictions."
Quote by Don Aitkin, University of Canberra, founder and past chairman of the Australian Mathematics Trust: “Is the warming unprecedented? Probably not. There is abundant historical and proxy evidence for both hotter and cooler periods in human history. Is it our fault? Again, maybe. The correlation of increasing warmth with increasing carbon dioxide concentrations is particularly weak; that with solar energy and with ocean movements is much stronger.”
Quote by Boris Winterhalter, retired scientist of marine geology at University of Helsinki: "The effect of solar winds on cosmic radiation has just recently been established and, furthermore, there seems to be a good correlation between cloudiness and variations in the intensity of cosmic radiation. Here we have a mechanism which is a far better explanation to variations in global climate than the attempts by IPCC to blame it all on anthropogenic input of greenhouse gases."
Quote by Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, researcher, Institute of Geophysics of the National Autonomous University of Mexico: “The models and forecasts of the UN IPCC "are incorrect because they only are based on mathematical models and presented results at scenarios that do not include, for example, solar activity.”
Quote by Zbigniew Jaworowski, former chairman of the United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation (UNSCEAR): "We thus find ourselves in the situation that the entire theory of man-made global warming-with its repercussions in science, and its important consequences for politics and the global economy-is based on ice core studies that provided a false picture of the atmospheric CO2 levels."
Quote by Geoffrey G. Duffy, Scientist, Department of Chemical and Materials Engineering of the University of Auckland: “Even doubling or tripling the amount of carbon dioxide will virtually have little impact, as water vapour and water condensed on particles as clouds dominate the worldwide scene and always will.”
Quote by Peter R. Leavitt, President-Weather Information, served on the National Research Council’s Board on Atmospheric Science and Climate: "The peer review process as applied to AGW studies is deeply flawed. It lacks transparency and accountability.”
Quote by Michael J. Myers, analytical chemist, specializes in spectroscopy and atmospheric sensing: “‘Scientific’ computer simulations predict global warming based on increased greenhouse gas emissions over time. However, without water's contribution taken into account they omit the largest greenhouse gas from their equations. How can such egregious calculation errors be so blatantly ignored? This is why man-made global warming is ‘junk’ science.”
Quote by Habibullo Abdusamatov, Head of the Space Research Laboratory, Russia: “Global warming results not from the emission of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, but from an unusually high level of solar radiation and a lengthy — almost throughout the last century — growth in its intensity.
Quote by Roger W. Cohen, physics, American Physical Society fellow: “At this point there is little doubt that the IPCC position is seriously flawed in its central position that humanity is responsible for most of the observed warming of the last third of the 20th century, and in its projections for effects in the 21st century.”
Quote by David Wojick, UN IPCC expert reviewer, co-founded the Department of Engineering and Public Policy at Carnegie-Mellon University: "In point of fact, the hypothesis that solar variability and not human activity is warming the oceans goes a long way to explain the puzzling idea that the Earth's surface may be warming while the atmosphere is not. The GHG (greenhouse gas) hypothesis does not do this....The public is not well served by this constant drumbeat of false alarms fed by computer models manipulated by advocates."
Quote by Miklós Zágoni, Hungarian environmental researcher, physicist, reversed his view of man-made warming and is now a skeptic: “Nature's regulatory instrument is water vapor: more carbon dioxide leads to less moisture in the air, keeping the overall GHG [greenhouse gas] content in accord with the necessary balance conditions.”
Quote by Andrei Kapitsa, a Russian geographer and Antarctic ice core researcher: “The Kyoto theorists have put the cart before the horse. It is global warming that triggers higher levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, not the other way round.”
Quote by Wolfgang P. Thuene, former analyst and forecaster for the German Weather Service, German Environmental Protection Agency: “All temperature and weather observations indicate that the earth isn’t like a greenhouse and that there is in reality no ‘natural greenhouse effect’ which could warm up the earth by its own emitted energy and cause by re-emission a ‘global warming effect’. With or without atmosphere every body looses heat, gets inevitably colder....the most perfect thermos flask can’t avoid that the hot coffee really gets cold. The hypothesis of a natural and a man-made ‘greenhouse effect’, like eugenics, belongs to the category ‘scientific errors.”
Quote by Robert DeFayette, chemist and nuclear engineer, NASA’s Plum Brook Reactor, served as consultant to the Department of Energy: “I freely admit I am a skeptic....Until a few months ago, scientists believed we had 9 planets, but now we have 8 because Pluto was demoted....At the time of Columbus, the scientific consensus was that the earth was flat but obviously that was wrong. In the late 18th century, ‘Neptunists’ were convinced that all of the rocks of the Earth’s crust had been precipitated from water, a British geologist characterized the supporting evidence as ‘incontrovertible....In each of these cases there was ‘scientific consensus’ that eventually was rejected.”
Quote by Dennis Hollars, astrophysicist: “Man-made global warming is basically flawed science at this point. We do not have sufficient temperature data to even decide if there is a planetary scale warming, let alone what the cause might be. In the ’70s it was global cooling that was the scare - by many of the same people who are pushing warming now, using models that are not even close to reality.”
Quote by George Reisman, economist, emeritus professor-Pepperdine University: “Global warming is not a threat. But environmentalism’s response to it is....Even if global warming is a fact, the free citizens of an industrial civilization will have no great difficulty in coping with it—that is, of course, if their ability to use energy and to produce is not crippled by the environmental movement and by government controls otherwise inspired.”
Quote by Victor Pochat, president of the Argentine Institute of Water Resources and professor of water resources planning at Universidad del Litoral: “....it is not clear that increases of a few degrees in average temperature of the planet is directly related to human activity but could be due to cyclical effects....Scientists that deserve credit for their background say global warming is a climatic variability associated to cycles of warming and cooling of the Earth.”
Quote by Don Aitkin, University of Canberra, founder and past chairman of the Australian Mathematics Trust: “Are we likely to see rising sea-levels? Not in our lifetimes or hose of our grandchildren. It is not even clear that sea-levels have risen at all. As so often in this domain, there is conflicting evidence. The melting of polar or sea ice has no direct effect.”
Quote by Robert Woock, senior geophysicist at Stone Energy, past president-Southwest Louisiana Geophysical Society: “I do not see any evidence in nature or data to suggest that we are in any anthropologic climate cycle....We have certainly created local climes, hot cities and deforestation that affect certain areas, but these are reversible to a large degree.”
Quote by Jarl R. Ahlbeck, scientist, a chemical engineer at Abo Akademi University in Finland, former Greenpeace member: “So far, real measurements give no ground for concern about a catastrophic future warming.”
Quote by Art V. Douglas, former Chair of the Atmospheric Sciences Department at Creighton University: “Whatever the weather, it's not being caused by global warming. If anything, the climate may be starting into a cooling period.”
Quote by Patrick Frank, chemist, authored more than 50 peer-reviewed articles: “But there is no falsifiable scientific basis whatever to assert this warming is caused by human-produced greenhouse gasses because current physical theory is too grossly inadequate to establish any cause at all.”
Quote by Richard Keen, climatologist, Department of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences University of Colorado: “Earth has cooled since 1998 in defiance of the predictions by the UN-IPCC….The global temperature for 2007 was the coldest in a decade and the coldest of the millennium…which is why ‘global warming’ is now called ‘climate change.’”
Quote by G LeBlanc Smith, a retired Principal Research Scientist with Australia’s Commonwealth Scientific and Research Organization (CSIRO): “I have yet to see credible proof of carbon dioxide driving climate change, yet alone man-made CO2 driving it. The atmospheric hot-spot is missing and the ice core data refute this. When will we collectively awake from this deceptive delusion?”
Quote by Philip Lloyd, a UN IPCC co-coordinating lead author, nuclear physcist: “The quantity of CO2 we produce is insignificant in terms of the natural circulation between air, water and soil....I am doing a detailed assessment of the UN IPCC reports and the Summaries for Policy Makers, identifying the way in which the Summaries have distorted the science.”
Quote by John Takeuchi, meteorologist: “Politicians have come to see global warming as a way to raise revenue by rationing CO2 production with schemes such as the ‘cap and trade’ legislation now in Congress. The taxes assessed for producing CO2 could be huge. But global warming as proclaimed by Al Gore and Co., is a hoax.”
Quote by Kenneth P. Green, environmental scientist, the American Enterprise Institute: “While I believe that Earth has experienced a
mild, non-enhanced greenhouse warming which will continue in the foreseeable future, I think the chaotic nature of the climate system makes projections of the future climate no better than science fiction....I am intensely skeptical of the entire process of predictive climate modeling, from its ability to meaningfully predict the climate in the future, to its ability to tell us how much of activity A would result in climate change B. These models have so many parameters that can be arbitrarily ‘tuned’ as to make them little more than a tool for mathematizing the fantasy scenarios of the programmers who set up and run the programs.”
Quote by Don Aitkin, University of Canberra, founder and past chairman of the Australian Mathematics Trust: “How reliable are the computer [climate] models on which possible future climates are based? Not very. All will agree that the task of modeling climate is vast, because of the estimates that have to be made and the rubbery quality of much of the data.”
Quote by Perry Ong, director of the Institute of Biology at the UP College of Science, Phillipines: “Climate change has become a convenient excuse when there are other [environmental] issues that need to be addressed....If we disproportionately blame ourselves for [climate change], our response will be different....we should look at the [bigger picture] and address other issues....there are 12 serious environment problems that need to be addressed in order to effectively deal with climate change....issues are: The destruction and conversion of forest, ocean, fresh water systems and other natural habitats; overharvesting of wild foods; the loss of biodiversity; excess fossil fuel extraction; soil erosion and swelling human population.”
Quote by Pal Brekke, solar physicist, senior advisor Norwegian Space Centre: “Anyone who claims that the debate is over and the conclusions are firm has a fundamentally unscientific approach to one of the most momentous issues of our time.”
Quote by Frederick Seitz, Past President, U.S. National Academy of Sciences: The IPCC “is pre-programmed to produce reports to support the hypotheses of anthropogenic warming and the control of greenhouse gases, as envisioned in the Global Climate Treaty....the 1990 IPCC Summary “completely ignored satellite data, since they showed no warming. The 1995 IPCC report was notorious for the significant alterations made to the text after it was approved by the scientists — in order to convey the impression of a human influence. The 2001 IPCC report claimed the twentieth century showed ‘unusual warming’ based on the now-discredited hockey stick graph. The latest IPCC report, published in 2007, completely devaluates the climate contributions from changes in solar activities, which are likely to dominate any human influence.”
Quote by Sherwood Thoele, analytical chemist and mathematician: “Because CO2 is slightly soluble in water and will come back to the Earth with precipitation, nature corrects for any excess, just as it does with other excess materials from volcanoes and forest fires. Nature recycles all of what it considers excess very efficiently.”
Gerhard Lobert, physicist, Recipient of The Needle of Honor of German Aeronautics: “The hypothesis that the global warming of the past decades is man-made is based on the results of calculations with climate models in which the main influence on climate is not included. The most important climate driver (besides solar luminosity) comes from the interplay of solar activity, interplanetary magnetic field strength, cosmic radiation intensity, and cloud cover of the Earth atmosphere.”
Quote by Jon Hartzler, retired science professor from St. Cloud State University: "There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.”
Quote by Colin Robinson, founder of the Department of Economics- University of Surrey UK, Fellow of the Royal Statistical Society: “Human myopia cannot be overcome simply by well-meaning attempts to build [climate] models that purport to peer decades and centuries ahead. Action taken now, in anticipation of supposed long run trends, may concentrate on the wrong issues and make matters worse rather than better.”
Quote by Topper Shutt, chief meterologist, Washington D.C. Channel 9: “Global warming is such a politically charged issue that we are losing our perspective on the issue and more importantly losing an open forum from which to discuss the issue. If we lose the right or comfort level to openly discuss and debate this issue we will not be able to tackle it efficiently and economically.”
Quote by Don Aitkin, University of Canberra, founder and past chairman of the Australian Mathematics Trust: “Why is there such insistence that AGW has occurred and needs drastic solutions? This is a puzzle, but my short answer is that the IPCC has been built on the AGW proposition and of course keeps plugging it, whatever the data say. The IPCC has considerable clout. Most people shy off inspecting the evidence because it looks like science and must therefore be hard. The media have been captured by AGW (it makes for great stories), the environmental movement and the Greens love it, and business is reluctant to get involved.”
Quote by John McLean, climate data analyst, Australian Climate Science Coalition: "The IPCC leads us to believe that this statement ['it is very highly likely that greenhouse gas forcing has been the dominant cause of the observed global warming over the last 50 years'] is very much supported by the majority of reviewers. The reality is that there is surprisingly little explicit support for this key notion. Among the 23 independent reviewers [of IPCC report] just 4 explicitly endorsed the chapter with its hypothesis."xx
Quote by Nigel Lawson, former Chancellor of the Exchequer of UK : “Not only is the Kyoto approach to global warming wrong-headed, the climate change establishment's suppression of dissent and criticism is little short of a scandal. The IPCC should be shut down.”
Quote by Jay Lehr, science director Heartland Institute: “The European Union and environmental advocacy groups use global warming hysteria to advance their own special agendas. The European Union recognizes any significant reduction in CO2 emissions by the United States will significantly reduce its economic output, thereby bringing it closer to the inferior output of European nations.”
Quote by Vincent Gray, climate scientist, expert reviewer on every single draft of the IPCC reports: "The [IPCC] ‘Summary for Policymakers' might get a few readers, but the main purpose of the report is to provide a spurious scientific backup for the absurd claims of the worldwide environmentalist lobby that it has been established scientifically that increases in carbon dioxide are harmful to the climate. It just does not matter that this ain't so."
Quote by Vaclav Klaus, President of the Czech Republic: (The IPCC is) “not a scientific body capable of accurately assessing the facts about global warming”.
Quote by Harlan Watson, U.S. negotiator at UN Climate Change convention: “The Kyoto protocol was a political agreement. It was not based on science.”
Quote by Kirill Kondratyev, scientist, Russian Academy of Sciences: “The only people who would be hurt by abandoning the Kyoto Protocol would be several thousand people who make a living attending conferences on global warming.”
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Yogi is right.... you do post old stuff...
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ENVIRONMENT:
Media silence over northern hemisphere's deep freeze
by Peter Westmore
News Weekly, April 13, 2013
As freezing weather grips northern Europe and much of North America, global warming alarmists are continuing to peddle their discredited agenda.
The Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI) has announced that the Australian Defence Force (ADF) is not doing enough planning to cope with the problem of climate change.
ASPI’s special report issue 49, Heavy Weather: Climate and the Australian Defence Force (released on March 25), declares that climate change has not been considered by the Defence Department in its national and regional strategic scoping, despite the potential regional instability caused by rising sea levels, migration pressures, and the spread of infectious diseases.
ASPI deputy director, Dr Anthony Bergin, describes climate change as a “threat multiplier”.
The report, which he co-wrote with Anthony Press and Eliza Garnsey, claims that the Asia-Pacific region is the most disaster-prone part of the world — a questionable claim — with many of those disasters likely to be aggravated by climate change.
It says climate change has the potential to generate and exacerbate destabilising conditions that could reshape the regional security environment. Disease transmission, population displacement and subsequent resource wars could lead to the further weakening of fragile states and place greater demand on the ADF’s involvement in regional stabilisation missions.
The report’s authors call for a permanent climate-change adviser to be appointed in the Defence Department.
Separately, the Investor Group on Climate Change (IGCC), a group of Australian and New Zealand businesses, has issued a report which claims that the increased frequency and intensity of extreme weather events, allegedly resulting from global warming, are likely to threaten some of Australia’s key industries.
The report is based on research by Dr Michael Smith of the Climate Change Institute at the Australian National University.
The problem with these reports is that they assume what is yet to be proved.
After Australia’s recent experience of a hot dry summer in parts of the continent and floods in Queensland, the federal government’s Climate Commission has released a report, The Angry Summer, written by Professor Will Steffen, blaming these events on global warming.
However, the freezing weather which has caused massive disruption in northern Europe and North America has excited no similar concern.
Britain has just experienced the coldest March for 50 years, with snow storms blocking major roads, closing airports and disrupting transport across the country.
The same picture emerges across the English Channel. In Germany, Berlin’s online daily Tagesspiegel recently headlined: “Berlin freezes in 100-year winter”. It predicted “lots of snow and bitter cold until the end of March — Berlin hasn’t seen this in more than 100 years”.
It quoted Friedemann Schenk of the Meteorological Institute for the Freien Universität, who said, “There has never been anything like this in Berlin in the last third of March since snow measurements began in 1895.”
The German Weather Service (DWD) warned that “the record-breaking wintry weather will continue until Easter”.
The freeze has extended from Russia down to the Balkans, and across northern Europe into England.
Meanwhile, figures released by the UK Met Office show the mean temperature for the 2012/13 winter finishing at 3.31°C, which is significantly below the long term 1981-2010 average of 3.83°C.
In the United States late in March, the Midwest states have been blanketed in snow, prompting the Reuters news agency to say, “There was little sign of spring across a large swath of the US Midwest... as a powerful storm dumped heavy snow across a widespread area and threatened to bring more.”
On a lighter note, a prosecutor in Butler County, Ohio, is attempting to sue the famous groundhog, Punxsutawney Phil, on a charge of misrepresenting early spring.
Back in February, Phil did not see his shadow, which was supposed to mean just six more weeks of winter.
The prosecutor, Mike Gmoser, said Phil “doesn’t seem to know his backside from a hole in the ground” and he wanted to hold the groundhog personally responsible for his false predictions.
“It’s definitely not spring,” he said. “It’s a snowstorm. And when I came to work in the wind and the cold, I said to myself something is wrong with Phil. You know Punxsutawney has some answers that he needs to give, and I think I’m just going to have to indict him.”
The fact is that with the normal wide variations in the weather, neither snow storms in Europe and the US nor hot dry weather in Australia, nor floods, can be linked to global warming, still less to the use of fossil fuels.
The best sources of information about global temperatures now come from satellite data collected by NASA and analysed at the University of Alabama, Huntsville (UAH), then posted online by US meteorologist, Dr Roy Spencer.
His data show that average global temperatures for the latest month for which data is available, February 2013, was 0.18°C above the 30-year average, while average seawater temperatures were just below those for the reference years 2003-2006, chosen because those years were relatively free of El Niño and La Niña activity.
Media silence over northern hemisphere's deep freeze
by Peter Westmore
News Weekly, April 13, 2013
As freezing weather grips northern Europe and much of North America, global warming alarmists are continuing to peddle their discredited agenda.
The Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI) has announced that the Australian Defence Force (ADF) is not doing enough planning to cope with the problem of climate change.
ASPI’s special report issue 49, Heavy Weather: Climate and the Australian Defence Force (released on March 25), declares that climate change has not been considered by the Defence Department in its national and regional strategic scoping, despite the potential regional instability caused by rising sea levels, migration pressures, and the spread of infectious diseases.
ASPI deputy director, Dr Anthony Bergin, describes climate change as a “threat multiplier”.
The report, which he co-wrote with Anthony Press and Eliza Garnsey, claims that the Asia-Pacific region is the most disaster-prone part of the world — a questionable claim — with many of those disasters likely to be aggravated by climate change.
It says climate change has the potential to generate and exacerbate destabilising conditions that could reshape the regional security environment. Disease transmission, population displacement and subsequent resource wars could lead to the further weakening of fragile states and place greater demand on the ADF’s involvement in regional stabilisation missions.
The report’s authors call for a permanent climate-change adviser to be appointed in the Defence Department.
Separately, the Investor Group on Climate Change (IGCC), a group of Australian and New Zealand businesses, has issued a report which claims that the increased frequency and intensity of extreme weather events, allegedly resulting from global warming, are likely to threaten some of Australia’s key industries.
The report is based on research by Dr Michael Smith of the Climate Change Institute at the Australian National University.
The problem with these reports is that they assume what is yet to be proved.
After Australia’s recent experience of a hot dry summer in parts of the continent and floods in Queensland, the federal government’s Climate Commission has released a report, The Angry Summer, written by Professor Will Steffen, blaming these events on global warming.
However, the freezing weather which has caused massive disruption in northern Europe and North America has excited no similar concern.
Britain has just experienced the coldest March for 50 years, with snow storms blocking major roads, closing airports and disrupting transport across the country.
The same picture emerges across the English Channel. In Germany, Berlin’s online daily Tagesspiegel recently headlined: “Berlin freezes in 100-year winter”. It predicted “lots of snow and bitter cold until the end of March — Berlin hasn’t seen this in more than 100 years”.
It quoted Friedemann Schenk of the Meteorological Institute for the Freien Universität, who said, “There has never been anything like this in Berlin in the last third of March since snow measurements began in 1895.”
The German Weather Service (DWD) warned that “the record-breaking wintry weather will continue until Easter”.
The freeze has extended from Russia down to the Balkans, and across northern Europe into England.
Meanwhile, figures released by the UK Met Office show the mean temperature for the 2012/13 winter finishing at 3.31°C, which is significantly below the long term 1981-2010 average of 3.83°C.
In the United States late in March, the Midwest states have been blanketed in snow, prompting the Reuters news agency to say, “There was little sign of spring across a large swath of the US Midwest... as a powerful storm dumped heavy snow across a widespread area and threatened to bring more.”
On a lighter note, a prosecutor in Butler County, Ohio, is attempting to sue the famous groundhog, Punxsutawney Phil, on a charge of misrepresenting early spring.
Back in February, Phil did not see his shadow, which was supposed to mean just six more weeks of winter.
The prosecutor, Mike Gmoser, said Phil “doesn’t seem to know his backside from a hole in the ground” and he wanted to hold the groundhog personally responsible for his false predictions.
“It’s definitely not spring,” he said. “It’s a snowstorm. And when I came to work in the wind and the cold, I said to myself something is wrong with Phil. You know Punxsutawney has some answers that he needs to give, and I think I’m just going to have to indict him.”
The fact is that with the normal wide variations in the weather, neither snow storms in Europe and the US nor hot dry weather in Australia, nor floods, can be linked to global warming, still less to the use of fossil fuels.
The best sources of information about global temperatures now come from satellite data collected by NASA and analysed at the University of Alabama, Huntsville (UAH), then posted online by US meteorologist, Dr Roy Spencer.
His data show that average global temperatures for the latest month for which data is available, February 2013, was 0.18°C above the 30-year average, while average seawater temperatures were just below those for the reference years 2003-2006, chosen because those years were relatively free of El Niño and La Niña activity.
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The Roach seems to be suffering from possession. Time to call the priest.
It got so hot in Australia in January that the weather service had to add two new colors to its charts. A few weeks later, at the other end of the planet, new data from the CryoSat-2 satellite showed 80 percent of Arctic sea ice has disappeared. We're not breaking records anymore; we're breaking the planet. In 50 years, no one will care about the fiscal cliff or the Euro crisis. They'll just ask, "So the Arctic melted, and then what did you do?"
Here's the good news: We'll at least be able to say we fought.
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