Labors carbonic tax plague has fallen off the radar?

[Super Nova]

The economy of Zimbabwe shrunk significantly after 2000, resulting in a desperate situation for the country and widespread poverty and an 80% unemployment[6] rate. The participation from 1998 to 2002 in the war in the Democratic Republic of the Congo set the stage for this deterioration by draining the country of hundreds of millions of dollars.[7] Hyperinflation has been a major problem from about 2003 to April 2009, when the country suspended its own currency. Country faced 231 million per cent peak hyperinflation in 2008.[8] The economy deteriorated from one of Africa's strongest economies to the world's worst.

The major problem is the carbon tax it has introduced, that is the model other countries like Australia has followed. The IMF is monitoring to see if the same effects occur in developed nations.[9]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Zimbabwe

[mantra]

Mantra, please don't cry when I show you this.


http://greens.org.au/policies/human-rig ... governance" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; <----- I only found it tonight myself.

Yes I know about this Mel. We've been under global governance for approx. 60 years. We were one of the founding members of the UN Convention in 1948. We are signed up to numerous international treaties and Gillard isn't responsible for this. God knows how many Howard signed us up to also.

You can search this database - I haven't got time at the moment, but you will get some idea of how committed we are to complying with all these agreements.

https://www.dfat.gov.au/treaties/

The biggest issue at present are the asylum seekers. Howard didn't comply with the UN Convention and slowed down the refugees, but all of our other governments have complied. I can't see Abbott doing any different to Gillard. Prior to the 2007 election - the Coalition knew there were 100,000 refugees waiting to head towards Australia. It was a human crisis. I'm not happy with the boats arriving every day, but it was inevitable. All Rudd did when he got into power was adhere to the UN Convention and this is the result.

[Super Nova]

All Rudd did when he got into power was adhere to the UN Convention and this is the result.

Didn't know that.

Should we ignore such conventions when we feel it is convenient if we signed up to them> I think not.

[mantra]

Should we ignore such conventions when we feel it is convenient if we signed up to them> I think not.

That's the billion dollar question. We're damned if we do and damned if we don't.

[Super Nova]

I agree. However Australia is pretty good at the high moral ground when questioning other countries behaviour without looking at our past behaviour. Based on the eu experience I think Australia should look after it's own interest and ignore convention just like the big boys do...and be damned.

[IQS.RLOW]

UN conventions are not legally binding

[boxy]

How long before you lefty fuckwits start using Zimbabwe as a comparison?

After September?

[mellie]

Mantra, please don't cry when I show you this.


http://greens.org.au/policies/human-rig ... governance" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; <----- I only found it tonight myself.

Yes I know about this Mel. We've been under global governance for approx. 60 years. We were one of the founding members of the UN Convention in 1948. We are signed up to numerous international treaties and Gillard isn't responsible for this. God knows how many Howard signed us up to also.

You can search this database - I haven't got time at the moment, but you will get some idea of how committed we are to complying with all these agreements.

https://www.dfat.gov.au/treaties/

The biggest issue at present are the asylum seekers. Howard didn't comply with the UN Convention and slowed down the refugees, but all of our other governments have complied. I can't see Abbott doing any different to Gillard. Prior to the 2007 election - the Coalition knew there were 100,000 refugees waiting to head towards Australia. It was a human crisis. I'm not happy with the boats arriving every day, but it was inevitable. All Rudd did when he got into power was adhere to the UN Convention and this is the result.

Wrong Mantra.... there's voluntary policy and there's more or less involuntary UN policy and treaties (if you want to remain a member) but some are downright economically destructive which is why the Greens and ALP indiscriminately sign everything UN.

If as you claim, this is old news, nothing party-specific in the way of party policy, then why is it the Greens have made it theirs?

http://greens.org.au/policies/human-rig ... governance

Surely, if it's a given, and has been occurring for as you say 20 years, then it goes without saying?



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[mellie]

Principles are one thing, but I think you had better read Greens "Aims" again.

http://greens.org.au/policies/human-rig ... governance

Face it Mantra, Greens are internationalists and care more about "Global" issues, and the reason for this is because they are being bankrolled by the UN.

Need proof?

[mellie]

UN conventions are not legally binding

But when our government starts passing UN inspired legislation, and introducing UN policy, aka ILO bills etc that's binding.

This is the problem IQ's.



This minority government couldn't run a chook raffle so are getting the ILO to do it for them.