Media Legislation

[mellie]

Your still a moron
You should read what people write before making a goose of yourself.
never been a strength of yours though has it mel?

You have serious comprehension issues...cant seem to read posts correctly.


What exactly are you disputing Roach?


Or have you forgotten?


...you must be old and confused....

[Rorschach]

For the arse-wipe known as Aussie...

Let’s deal with your strawman Arsie. The one you came to because you couldn't follow the debate and just decided to jump in and have a snipe.

The issue wasn’t directly about Malcolm being recognised as a Shadow Minister by Mel. It involved her dislike of Turnbull and belief he shouldn’t have a say because he’s not Party leader. She doesn’t want him as party leader and she doesn’t want him in the party. (Neither do I, but unlike Mel I understand why he could and did say what he said in parliament.)

I said… Doesn't matter if they get it through.... in 6 months Malcolm says the Libs will repeal it.

Her retort…

Is Malcolm the leader of the Liberal Party?

But I'm sure he means well.

It is clear she denies Malcolm the right to comment as he is not leader of the party.
I merely corrected her error.
Malcolm as Shadow Minister had the right to comment on his portfolio.
He had the right as Shadow Minister to present the party position.
In fact just today, Abbott complemented him on his comments and handling of the issue.

I stated… No he's the guy in charge of the relevant portfolio moron!
If they get in he'll be the Minister.
Hence and let me type this slowly for you.... it is his right to speak on it and announce what they will do about it.

Her retort…

Really?

Obviously she didn’t have a clue.
Then went off issue and tried to avoid admitting she’d got it wrong.
Abbott has already stated, that he will keep the same cabinet in government as he currently has in opposition.
I then introduced the terms Shadow and Minister, to the argument.

Mel like yourself tried ignoring the issue.

She then showed her further ignorance by stating…

Thats rather presumptuous of you don't you think Roach.

Who's to say Malcolm will be handed his current portfolio back after Abbott wins the election?

When as I said anyone who knows anything knows Abbott has stated his intention to keep everyone in their current positions after the election.

Shortly after she stated…

I am tired of talking about Malcolm in the middle... there are more pressing things worthy of discussion than this grubs dismal future to ponder.

Well she’d been trying to avoid it. She always get’s tired when she’s been shown to be wrong. Let’s move on… nothing to see here. I note she shows her disdain for Turnbull which is the motivation for her first statement here about him to me. Not going too fast for you am I Arsie?

When questioned about her avoidance, she tries to deflect with…

I thought I was on topic, take a look at the threads title and see for yourself.


You dunce.

Followed by more deflection and lots more avoidance.

Next there’s a comment from mantra that proves both she and mel are not up to date about the issue.

If Turnbull is talking about reversing it - then that indicates he believes it will get through.

I did not correct mantra.

Mel said…

If Abbott said it, re- reversing the reforms, then I might be tempted to consider it, but we are talking about Mr Turncoat here, not even Abbott trusts him.

Again the ignorance re the original issue re Turnbull and his right to speak is being evidenced. Turnbull is Shadow Minister. Abbott is party leader and Turnbull espoused the party policy. Which I mentioned originally that is to repeal the legislation. Do you supposed the everyone should be aware that a shadow minister is the person who has a right to speak on his/her portfolio? Why would someone not recognise that? Ignorance?

I point out yet again why Turnbull has the right to speak and the issue being debated.

I state… What was the actual point being debated? Oh yes... what right had Turnbull to comment on the topic?

MALCOLM TURNBULL... OPPOSITION SHADOW MINISTER FOR COMMUNICATIONS ect.

Mel lies…

My point was and still is, Malcolm isn't the Minister for Communications just yet.

Irrelevant to the issue being debated. Just another attempt to wriggle out of it, without having to admit she was wrong.

Mel lies…

I know Malcolm is Shadow minister, but like I said, he's not quite our Minister for Communications just yet, so he should probably hold off promising his Point Piper mates privy.

More wriggling... and for someone who knows suddenly what he is, she still doesn’t know his responsibilities as a Shadow Minister… hard to believe eh. Impossible actually.

Then ad hom crap from mantra, crap from you arsie… crap, crap, crap. Sorry but you were wrong.

Mel tries to use Aussie's moronic excuse as a way out…

Thanks Aussie, and it appears our resident Roach has jumped the gun, yet again, ho-hum..sigh, I was merely stating a fact, the fact being that just because Turncoat is shadow communications minister pre-election, isn't to say he's guaranteed the communications portfolio should the coalition win the election.

Unfortunately anyone with a brain will know the truth.

Liar liar pants on fire mel....
Using Arsie as an ally is fraught with stupidity, kinda like a Gillard decision.

[Aussie]

Have a look under your bed..........QUICK!!!!!!

[Rorschach]

You know I go outa my way for morons like you...
I gotta stop being so nice.

you're just another moron that can't be courteous and apologise.
you are anonymous you know

[mellie]

For the arse-wipe known as Aussie...

Let’s deal with your strawman Arsie. The one you came to because you couldn't follow the debate and just decided to jump in and have a snipe.

The issue wasn’t directly about Malcolm being recognised as a Shadow Minister by Mel. It involved her dislike of Turnbull and belief he shouldn’t have a say because he’s not Party leader. She doesn’t want him as party leader and she doesn’t want him in the party. (Neither do I, but unlike Mel I understand why he could and did say what he said in parliament.)

I said… Doesn't matter if they get it through.... in 6 months Malcolm says the Libs will repeal it.

Her retort…

Is Malcolm the leader of the Liberal Party?

But I'm sure he means well.

It is clear she denies Malcolm the right to comment as he is not leader of the party.
I merely corrected her error.
Malcolm as Shadow Minister had the right to comment on his portfolio.
He had the right as Shadow Minister to present the party position.
In fact just today, Abbott complemented him on his comments and handling of the issue.

I stated… No he's the guy in charge of the relevant portfolio moron!
If they get in he'll be the Minister.
Hence and let me type this slowly for you.... it is his right to speak on it and announce what they will do about it.

Her retort…

Really?

Obviously she didn’t have a clue.
Then went off issue and tried to avoid admitting she’d got it wrong.
Abbott has already stated, that he will keep the same cabinet in government as he currently has in opposition.
I then introduced the terms Shadow and Minister, to the argument.

Mel like yourself tried ignoring the issue.

She then showed her further ignorance by stating…

Thats rather presumptuous of you don't you think Roach.

Who's to say Malcolm will be handed his current portfolio back after Abbott wins the election?

When as I said anyone who knows anything knows Abbott has stated his intention to keep everyone in their current positions after the election.

Shortly after she stated…

I am tired of talking about Malcolm in the middle... there are more pressing things worthy of discussion than this grubs dismal future to ponder.

Well she’d been trying to avoid it. She always get’s tired when she’s been shown to be wrong. Let’s move on… nothing to see here. I note she shows her disdain for Turnbull which is the motivation for her first statement here about him to me. Not going too fast for you am I Arsie?

When questioned about her avoidance, she tries to deflect with…

I thought I was on topic, take a look at the threads title and see for yourself.


You dunce.

Followed by more deflection and lots more avoidance.

Next there’s a comment from mantra that proves both she and mel are not up to date about the issue.

If Turnbull is talking about reversing it - then that indicates he believes it will get through.

I did not correct mantra.

Mel said…

If Abbott said it, re- reversing the reforms, then I might be tempted to consider it, but we are talking about Mr Turncoat here, not even Abbott trusts him.

Again the ignorance re the original issue re Turnbull and his right to speak is being evidenced. Turnbull is Shadow Minister. Abbott is party leader and Turnbull espoused the party policy. Which I mentioned originally that is to repeal the legislation. Do you supposed the everyone should be aware that a shadow minister is the person who has a right to speak on his/her portfolio? Why would someone not recognise that? Ignorance?

I point out yet again why Turnbull has the right to speak and the issue being debated.

I state… What was the actual point being debated? Oh yes... what right had Turnbull to comment on the topic?

MALCOLM TURNBULL... OPPOSITION SHADOW MINISTER FOR COMMUNICATIONS ect.

Mel lies…

My point was and still is, Malcolm isn't the Minister for Communications just yet.

Irrelevant to the issue being debated. Just another attempt to wriggle out of it, without having to admit she was wrong.

Mel lies…

I know Malcolm is Shadow minister, but like I said, he's not quite our Minister for Communications just yet, so he should probably hold off promising his Point Piper mates privy.

More wriggling... and for someone who knows suddenly what he is, she still doesn’t know his responsibilities as a Shadow Minister… hard to believe eh. Impossible actually.

Then ad hom crap from mantra, crap from you arsie… crap, crap, crap. Sorry but you were wrong.

Mel tries to use Aussie's moronic excuse as a way out…

Thanks Aussie, and it appears our resident Roach has jumped the gun, yet again, ho-hum..sigh, I was merely stating a fact, the fact being that just because Turncoat is shadow communications minister pre-election, isn't to say he's guaranteed the communications portfolio should the coalition win the election.

Unfortunately anyone with a brain will know the truth.

Liar liar pants on fire mel....
Using Arsie as an ally is fraught with stupidity, kinda like a Gillard decision.

Face it Roach, here we have big man Turnbull prematurely ejaculating to earn browny points.

Since when has Turnbull been an advocate for free speech?

If anything, he'd be secretly tickled pink about the new media reforms, (and would love his own slate wiped clean) hence he's already organised a Bendigo seminar to elaborate on the NBN and new media reforms to as always, promote himself as a viable leadership contender.

He never really accepted the fact that Tony was deemed more worthy than he.

He's still trying.

...Has never stopped.

Turnbull portrays himself as the antithesis of Tony Abbott's political mentor, B.A. Santamaria, the staunch protectionsist and noble confidant, when Libs know he's just a douchebag, a smart, cunning, and calculative douchebag, but a treacherous self-interested douchebag none the less, and because of this, Tony was able to take the leadership from him.

The mistake they made was they allowed him to linger on like Voldermort, feeding on young liberals blood in the Forbidden Forest.

As a result, he's afflicted with a half-life.... one that will be rather short lived if he doesn't keep his fingers clean this time round.

We have plenty of people keeping an eye on him.
Watching his every treacherous move.





Malcolm is a lone wolf.... not a team player.... so it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't consult with Abbott before running his mouth off to the press with promises of media-law repeals.

It wouldn't be the first time.

Regardless, Abbott wouldn't be inclined to make a big issue of it, or run to the press the way Labors rats do (ie Rudd) rather would deal with it internally, in a dignified manner.

Turnbull would like to create an air of discontent among the Liberal party, he has been known to intentionally piss Tony off, in hope Tony makes an issue of it.

On one occasion when Tony resisted the urge to feed the press, Turnbull turned himself into a human headline with a view to destabelising the Liberal party in the lead up to an election. Recall?

Lets face it, the more 'troubled' Liberal appears ...the more chance Turnbull has of being granted second pickings.


He's no dummy, but he's a grub and plays low-ball.

He likes balls.

[Rorschach]

Mel... Malcolm was doing his job.
Tony praised him for it today.

You on the other hand opened your mouth because you don't like him, and both feet fell in.

You are now running off on another tangent.

Much easier for you to just have said... I was wrong.

[mantra]

I don't mind Turnbull and prefer him to Abbott regardless of his capitalistic leanings. My guess is the media reforms are going to be passed whether we like it or not.

Has Abbott voiced any objection yet?

[mellie]

Mel... Malcolm was doing his job.
Tony praised him for it today.

You on the other hand opened your mouth because you don't like him, and both feet fell in.

You are now running off on another tangent.

Much easier for you to just have said... I was wrong.

Yeah, Tony would, because thats just the kinda 'nice' guy he is.

But some of us know better than to praise a pig for being a tretch.



No, I was not wrong, in my opinion.

[Rorschach]

Well you do live in denial, etc, etc, etc...

Malcolm was just doing his job
You were wrong.

[mellie]

I don't mind Turnbull and prefer him to Abbott regardless of his capitalistic leanings. My guess is the media reforms are going to be passed whether we like it or not.

Has Abbott voiced any objection yet?

Grant it, he appeals to small (L) Liberals, yuppy eastern suburb housewives, Art and antique collectors and cashed-up city dwelling meteros.... which is why he will come in handy because he doesn't pass off as being too right winged... 'extreme'...for a Liberal.

He's like the Liberal you have when you're not really having a liberal.

Truth is, he's neither left or right...he's a pawn of the internationalist banksters .. ...not in the middle at all...rather is on the outer and upper.. is a repugnant steaming turd stuck to the Liberals front bench... an opportunist, a chameleon...some argue an individualist..... the best I heard was "Classical Liberal"... *vomits* (Thanks Robert Manne) He's a door to door salesman, selling the reptile Goldman Sachs policies from the boot of his prestige car.
He has a fetish for American politics (not unlike Bill Shorten) and Like Shorten, sees himself as Australia's first or second President.
He's a liar and a crook, a scam-artist, and a climate changer... Bob Brown & Mr. Goldman-Sachs-Malcolm Turnbull are in total agreement, all for the $$$carbon-tax!
Now given his stance on gay Marriage, a carbon tax and an Australian republic, it's hardly surprising that Paul Keating, another internationalist and subordinate socialist elitist C8nt offered him a safe Labor seat, to which he claims to have declined, though given his mole like characteristics, I doubt this very much, and think he Joined Keatings own private party, very few Australians have been privy to.

Read this transcript Roach.... I am not the only one who's picked up on Turnbulls questionable media-reform discussion tactile.


http://www.malcolmturnbull.com.au/media ... arch-2013/